(Sep. 23, 2019 5:53 PM)DrainBladerAMVS Wrote:I still don't understand, I'm making multiple rounds anyway, so what's the point of that. Am I not supposed to mention double bursts, or double spin finishes?(Sep. 23, 2019 5:49 PM)NobodyBlader Wrote: It's kinda self-explanatory
while it is, it doesn't help to point that out,
{g2_} well when you get a tie, redo it
[Hasbro] Turbo Valtryek V3 Testing and Discussion
(Sep. 23, 2019 7:58 PM)g2_ Wrote:So what I mean is say you do 20 rounds for testing and you have 3 ties, you would mention, but redo the battles so instead of having 17 rounds with a winner and 3 ties, you have 20 rounds with a winner and 3 ties.(Sep. 23, 2019 5:53 PM)DrainBladerAMVS Wrote: while it is, it doesn't help to point that out,I still don't understand, I'm making multiple rounds anyway, so what's the point of that. Am I not supposed to mention double bursts, or double spin finishes?
{g2_} well when you get a tie, redo it
(Sep. 23, 2019 9:07 PM)bladekid Wrote:(Sep. 23, 2019 7:58 PM)g2_ Wrote: I still don't understand, I'm making multiple rounds anyway, so what's the point of that. Am I not supposed to mention double bursts, or double spin finishes?So what I mean is say you do 20 rounds for testing and you have 3 ties, you would mention, but redo the battles so instead of having 17 rounds with a winner and 3 ties, you have 20 rounds with a winner and 3 ties.
OK, I understand.
Turbo Valtryek 12W Qs-S VS aB 0W Br
Balkesh? That's aB3. aB is Arc Bahamut, although on TT bearing it would probably just re-tighten after being clicked.
Probably do both.
(Sep. 23, 2019 11:31 PM)X-Wing Wrote:(Sep. 23, 2019 11:29 PM)g2_ Wrote: Don't have B3
Ah. Wonder if tV3 Bl Xt can burst aB 00W/0W Br?
Tomorrow I'll do the testing.
(Sep. 23, 2019 11:31 PM)X-Wing Wrote:(Sep. 23, 2019 11:29 PM)g2_ Wrote: Don't have B3
Ah. Wonder if tV3 Bl Xt can burst aB 00W/0W Br?
Test 1:
tV3 Bl Xt vs aB 0W Br (aB alwayes launched first, ties redone, both strong launched, 10 battles)
Round 1 aB Spin finish 1 point
Round 2 aB Spin finish 1 point
Round 3 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 4 aB Spin finish 1 point
Round 5 aB Spin finish 1 point
This time tV3 weak launched
Round 6 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 7 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 8 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 9 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 10 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
tV3 Win rate: 60% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 6)
aB Win rate: 40% (OS: 4, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 0
(Sep. 23, 2019 11:45 PM)g2_ Wrote:Ok, here's a quick rule of thumb, when you do testing, count bursts as 1 point instead of 2. Also you must have an obscenely bad B3 if you're getting tV3 to burst it(Sep. 23, 2019 11:31 PM)X-Wing Wrote: Ah. Wonder if tV3 Bl Xt can burst aB 00W/0W Br?
Tomorrow I'll do the testing.
(Sep. 23, 2019 11:31 PM)X-Wing Wrote: Ah. Wonder if tV3 Bl Xt can burst aB 00W/0W Br?
Test 1:
tV3 Bl Xt vs aB 0W Br (aB alwayes launched first, ties redone, both strong launched, 10 battles)
Round 1 aB Spin finish 1 point
Round 2 aB Spin finish 1 point
Round 3 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 4 aB Spin finish 1 point
Round 5 aB Spin finish 1 point
This time tV3 weak launched
Round 6 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 7 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 8 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 9 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 10 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
tV3 Win rate: 60% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 6)
aB Win rate: 40% (OS: 4, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 0
(Sep. 24, 2019 12:37 PM)bladekid Wrote:(Sep. 23, 2019 11:45 PM)g2_ Wrote: Tomorrow I'll do the testing.Ok, here's a quick rule of thumb, when you do testing, count bursts as 1 point instead of 2. Also you must have an obscenely bad B3 if you're getting tV3 to burst it
Test 1:
tV3 Bl Xt vs aB 0W Br (aB alwayes launched first, ties redone, both strong launched, 10 battles)
Round 1 aB Spin finish 1 point
Round 2 aB Spin finish 1 point
Round 3 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 4 aB Spin finish 1 point
Round 5 aB Spin finish 1 point
This time tV3 weak launched
Round 6 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 7 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 8 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 9 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
Round 10 tV3 Burst finish 2 points
tV3 Win rate: 60% (OS: 0, KO: 0, BST: 6)
aB Win rate: 40% (OS: 4, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 0
Oh nevermind, it's TT.
If you do dread hades tests, can you test dH3.7C.Ir against dC3.7flow.orbit?
I decided to revive this thread and add some new testing results, after I finally got my copy of this bey. tV3 was kinda hyped (and has a high tier ranking) but all I read here was "it bursted every round". So what's the truth about Turbo Valtryek?
Stamina bey first, attacking bey second.
tV3.00T.Z vs. Z3.0G.At
tV3: 3 KO (30% Win rate)
Z3: 4 OS, 2 BF, 1 KO (70% Win rate)
tV3.00T.Hn vs. Z3.0G.At
tV3: 1 KO (10% Win rate)
Z3: 6 OS, 3 BF (70% Win rate)
tV3.00T.J vs. Z3.0G.At
tV3: 2 OS (20% Win rate)
Z3: 2 OS, 6 BF (80% Win rate)
Now I switched discs, because 00 could have a higher burst risk than 0.
tV3.0T.Ds vs. Z3.00G.At
tV3: 1 OS (10% Win rate)
Z3: 5 OS, 4 BF (90% Win rate)
Ok, with switched discs the same results.
Conclusion: tV3 did not do well. But this are just some tests.
Stamina bey first, attacking bey second.
tV3.00T.Z vs. Z3.0G.At
tV3: 3 KO (30% Win rate)
Z3: 4 OS, 2 BF, 1 KO (70% Win rate)
tV3.00T.Hn vs. Z3.0G.At
tV3: 1 KO (10% Win rate)
Z3: 6 OS, 3 BF (70% Win rate)
tV3.00T.J vs. Z3.0G.At
tV3: 2 OS (20% Win rate)
Z3: 2 OS, 6 BF (80% Win rate)
Now I switched discs, because 00 could have a higher burst risk than 0.
tV3.0T.Ds vs. Z3.00G.At
tV3: 1 OS (10% Win rate)
Z3: 5 OS, 4 BF (90% Win rate)
Ok, with switched discs the same results.
Conclusion: tV3 did not do well. But this are just some tests.
(Feb. 29, 2020 9:37 PM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: I decided to revive this thread and add some new testing results, after I finally got my copy of this bey. tV3 was kinda hyped (and has a high tier ranking) but all I read here was "it bursted every round". So what's the truth about Turbo Valtryek?Some molds have insane burst resistance.
Stamina bey first, attacking bey second.
tV3.00T.Z vs. Z3.0G.At
tV3: 3 KO (30% Win rate)
Z3: 4 OS, 2 BF, 1 KO (70% Win rate)
tV3.00T.Hn vs. Z3.0G.At
tV3: 1 KO (10% Win rate)
Z3: 6 OS, 3 BF (70% Win rate)
tV3.00T.J vs. Z3.0G.At
tV3: 2 OS (20% Win rate)
Z3: 2 OS, 6 BF (80% Win rate)
Now I switched discs, because 00 could have a higher burst risk than 0.
tV3.0T.Ds vs. Z3.00G.At
tV3: 1 OS (10% Win rate)
Z3: 5 OS, 4 BF (90% Win rate)
Ok, with switched discs the same results.
Conclusion: tV3 did not excite me. He doesnt seem to have a good burst resistance. For some he is the best attacking bey. I still have to understand why.
Well, if this is the case: I look forward to see some testing results of someone who has one of those insane molds :-)
Hmmm dunno... should I buy another tV3? Seems like gambling. And in all YouTube Videos about tV3 he did not perform well. For me, definitely not a Tier 8 layer on a Tier list.
Hmmm dunno... should I buy another tV3? Seems like gambling. And in all YouTube Videos about tV3 he did not perform well. For me, definitely not a Tier 8 layer on a Tier list.
(Feb. 29, 2020 11:18 PM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: Well, if this is the case: I look forward to see some testing results of someone who has one of those insane molds :-)I have 5 of them, one of them is nearly unburstable.
Hmmm dunno... should I buy another tV3? Seems like gambling. And in all YouTube Videos about tV3 he did not perform well. For me, definitely not a Tier 8 layer on a Tier list.
(Feb. 29, 2020 11:18 PM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: Well, if this is the case: I look forward to see some testing results of someone who has one of those insane molds :-)Well, that's because you aren't using it optimally. The reason I put it into tier 8 is because it's the best attack bey hasbro has besides maybe JJ5 l, which wasn't out at the time. With the performance I saw from it, I really couldn't put it anywhere below 7 or 8.
Hmmm dunno... should I buy another tV3? Seems like gambling. And in all YouTube Videos about tV3 he did not perform well. For me, definitely not a Tier 8 layer on a Tier list.
(Mar. 01, 2020 3:20 AM)bladekid Wrote:(Feb. 29, 2020 11:18 PM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: Well, if this is the case: I look forward to see some testing results of someone who has one of those insane molds :-)Well, that's because you aren't using it optimally. The reason I put it into tier 8 is because it's the best attack bey hasbro has besides maybe JJ5 l, which wasn't out at the time. With the performance I saw from it, I really couldn't put it anywhere below 7 or 8.
Hmmm dunno... should I buy another tV3? Seems like gambling. And in all YouTube Videos about tV3 he did not perform well. For me, definitely not a Tier 8 layer on a Tier list.
JJ5 is trash.
(Mar. 01, 2020 3:36 AM)g2_ Wrote:Eh, maybe it is, but I've noticed that it hits harder per hit than tV3, but idk if that will make it better or not, haven't tested it yet.(Mar. 01, 2020 3:20 AM)bladekid Wrote: Well, that's because you aren't using it optimally. The reason I put it into tier 8 is because it's the best attack bey hasbro has besides maybe JJ5 l, which wasn't out at the time. With the performance I saw from it, I really couldn't put it anywhere below 7 or 8.
JJ5 is trash.
(Mar. 01, 2020 3:55 AM)g2_ Wrote:It is kinda, but it's almost serviceable and it will work fine in limited. It's attack is just too good to keep it out of that high.(Mar. 01, 2020 3:53 AM)bladekid Wrote: Eh, maybe it is, but I've noticed that it hits harder per hit than tV3, but idk if that will make it better or not, haven't tested it yet.
The burst resistance is awful.
How do I use it properly?
https://youtu.be/e9_iFYSjymc
I have the same results as seen in that video from zankye. tV3 just bursts.
For me, Hades and Noctemis are much better. Even in stock.
bladekid: I am thankful for some instructions. Should I weak launch it? But then the burst stoppers dont come out... I used angled launch. How to launch tV3 to make it win?
https://youtu.be/e9_iFYSjymc
I have the same results as seen in that video from zankye. tV3 just bursts.
For me, Hades and Noctemis are much better. Even in stock.
bladekid: I am thankful for some instructions. Should I weak launch it? But then the burst stoppers dont come out... I used angled launch. How to launch tV3 to make it win?
(Mar. 01, 2020 8:25 AM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: How do I use it properly?Umm, this is stock tV3. It doesn't have the attack potential in stock so it just bursts. You need a tight X or Hn driver and I'd recommend the blitz disk. Doing a weaker launch helps, but it will make the attack worse. And honestly, idk how yours is that much worse to the point where Hades and noctemis are better for attack. I see them as more balance beys than anything.
https://youtu.be/e9_iFYSjymc
I have the same results as seen in that video from zankye. tV3 just bursts.
For me, Hades and Noctemis are much better. Even in stock.
bladekid: I am thankful for some instructions. Should I weak launch it? But then the burst stoppers dont come out... I used angled launch. How to launch tV3 to make it win?