I didn't think, for I did see. Bull has better weight distribution, really it does. Aquario is amazing, and I think it should of been able to transport the smashes. It was weird, but it still overcame.

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I always thought it was Aquario that had the better weight distribution. That is something worth looking into...Bull vs Cancer/Gasher vs Aquario...

Anyways, I will say that I use the Aquario wheel in most if my customs, mostly because of how well it can be used in all different kinds of combinations, be it attack, defense, stamina or balance. It is just an overall very versitile wheel to use.

Some Testing for the Hasbro Ray, i want to contribute to this thread more often
Condition
PTW
Light Launcher
WD good condition

Ray StrikerD125R2F Vs. EarthBull CH120WD
Ray won 13
Bull won 7
Ray was sliding shooted into corner
Ray did all knockouts and one outspin

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Thanks EA3 for the Sig!

Aquila FTW

thanks, can you try with 100 instead of CH120? just wondering as it seems lower height does better against ray

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Believe me, 13 is not accurate. WD is VERY easy to KO. I guarantee an 80 PERCENT or higher when I try to test this tomorrow.

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Believe me, 13 is not accurate. WD is VERY easy to KO. I guarantee an 80 PERCENT or higher when I try to test this tomorrow.

I didnt know that thanks for the tip. it was the first time i used sliding shoot in PTW since i have a bb-10. Any ways wat else do u want me test?
Ray so far is amazingly good,

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More Testing
Condition
PTW
WD good
Light Launcher
Ray StrikerD125R2F vs Earth Bull100WD
Ray won 12
Bull won 7 all by kOs
The 7 losess were consistant.
Ray gets smacked right into the pockets by bull.
D125 dosent work that good i think a lower track will do better

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Thanks EA3 for the Sig!

the 125 heights (in general) are really only good for destabalizers or attack based balance types (attack + defense, or attack + stamina) Otherwise most 125 tracks have a superior 145 counterpart for use with Defense, Stamina, and Defense-Stamina balance type combos.

On another note, this has been on my mind as of late. Because of the clutter present of this thread, once 100 pages has been reached here, we should create a 2nd Hasbro Combo testing Thread. All in agreement?

BBS, test your ray combo against burn susanow 100fs.

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Thank you Jellyboy for the signature!

Formerly known as Rukasu333 and FlameSagittario333

Just did this. In the MXS the results were:
Burn Susanow - 10 Wins
Ray Aquario - 0 Wins

Aquario was able to knock around Susanow, but Susanow always ended up smashing into Aquario and destabilizing it. Or some rounds Aquario would just barely hit Susanow and then die out.

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Does Earth come in Earth Aquila 145WD ? Hm, this is a difficult question.

This might be a dumb question but, even if it doesn't have good smash, can dark be used in a smash attack combo?

My WD is too worn to be used legally, so I'll just beat up the rest of my Earth Aquila and send it to Hasbro so I can get a new one for free.

Really? I have to deal with this carp on the "new" zodiac here too? Ugh...I came here hoping that I wouldn't find it here too >.>

Oh no! Heaven forbid you have to read about something that 99% of the population is at least somewhat interested in!

Woe is you!

it has the widest track and the widest metal wheel.and its not really in a high price.i say hell kerbex is more of a balance than stamina.

How to write very obvious things ...

Don't say Storm sucks, it is still one of the best....

This could be a second coming of "MooMoo Hurricane" Where people's results varied wildly from +75% to 0%. Plus, I'm pretty sure that Earth cannot "Smack" anything anywhere without RF, hence why it was anti-meta for a bit. Otherwise, 12 wins is a bit too small. Maybe 14-16? I'll test later, I'm working on new releases right now, so I can't. Sorry.

I have a sono kong ray unicorno and a ptw, and I can help test the ray wheel. once I get the hasbro one, I will test it BIG TIME. but my rf is worn out, so either f, hf, sf, or worn fs. just give me some requests and I'll take them. btw, I agree with leontempest. this thread is smoking hot, and we need a new one so we don't have to burn our eyes out on 73 pages of comments xD

Believe me, 13 is not accurate. WD is VERY easy to KO. I guarantee an 80 PERCENT or higher when I try to test this tomorrow.

Earth Virgo GB145WD. (MF is optional)
Test that, It's not as easy to KO as you presume it is.

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I'll test this as well, as I have not tested anything for a while. I'll try to do tests with and without mf

D125 shouldn't verse BURN. I will test against it ASAP. Ok:

Earth Virgo GB145WD and Burn Susanow are next in testing for me.
I will probably change the combo and again assure a 70% or higher Win %.

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results so far:

LLD 100 f results: 5 ko's, 1 os
mf earth virgo gb145 wd: 4 os
(earth virgo os were by only 4-5 revoloutions)
ptw, hasbro Light launcher R, takara tomy beylauncher L
LLD bank shot
EV central shot
non-metal face results tonight/tomorrow!
also, can you please test my defence custom against hasbro ray wheel attack type?
MF Earth Bull ED145 SD

Erm... sure, but I guarantee a sub-20% win rate. ED is trash, and SD does NOTHING for defense. If you want formal tests, so be it.

(Just as a reminder....) You guys DO know that Susanow is currently the best stamina Cw for TT and Hasbro? No one knows, because there were only 2 tests, and my tests were 1/2 of those. It got 10-20 seconds more than Bull.

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Erm... Solo-spin tests mean nothing. Plus, CWs mean little, and it's very possible that you were biased in your tests. Before stating something, multiple tests must be conducted.

ok, results!
Earth Virgo GB145 WD: 1 ko (LLD rolled off of earth right into a pocket) os 8 (by 3-4 revoloutions)
LLD 100 F: 1 ko
@megablader9, I tested my combo a few pages back against MF LLD CH120 RF and I got really good results. so read back a bit, and you should find it
also, ED145 is actually pretty good in ptw, so stop relying on the tests of others and try things out yourself! and sd was for good stamina and it had some kick-butt defence. but, these results might be different in a tt stadium

Erm...I've been helping out with this thread since it started? I know for a fact that your results are the minority. ED145 has been garbage for months, and no shift in the metagame will change this. The rotating wings make the bey lose a lot of stamina, and SD takes a pounding very easily. In fact, I did a few test on ED145 myself when it was suggested for the old "Hasbro Tier List" Thread. It was trash with WB, WD, JB, and SF. I tried SD, but it had 0% after 20 rounds, so I stopped. (I normally did 40-50 rounds per test.)

(Just as a reminder....) You guys DO know that Susanow is currently the best stamina Cw for TT and Hasbro? No one knows, because there were only 2 tests, and my tests were 1/2 of those.

Alot of people know about Susanow..
It's not all that great for Stamina.(I've tested such with Burn,Flame, and Earth.)
Same with others within this organization.
Virgo is currently the best for Defense and Stamina within Hasbro. (Tested and Proven)
Bull and Aquario come second in the same subject, Susanow is after that.

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can you test burn tempo/Horogium 85/90/100 CS/WD for stamina vs a barage of stamina types?

With the smoothnes of both Tempo/Horogium and the burnwheel it will be intresting to see how it will do. Also because the weith of burn is more on the outside and the lightnes of Tempo/Horogium it could be big. the ideal height should be well under the 120 I would like it 85-105. I cannot test right now cause I dont have Burn yet but it should be comeing in 2 weeks.

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What am I ?...the bey analyzer, the philosophie is the theorie.
Clashing metals are synoniem of beyblade battles,
when one ratlles...the other tumbles, but the winner remains...
Humble, cause he don't wants any trouble.

Erm... Solo-spin tests mean nothing. Plus, CWs mean little, and it's very possible that you were biased in your tests. Before stating something, multiple tests must be conducted.

I wasn't biased, and I think that if it spins longer by itself, it might spin longer in battle, which is what stamina is for. I tested it 4-5 times and found the average of that. I would sure test in battle, but my stadium is not really the best for attack, so the results might be screwed up.

Instead of criticizing my results, test yourself.

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(Just as a reminder....) You guys DO know that Susanow is currently the best stamina Cw for TT and Hasbro? No one knows, because there were only 2 tests, and my tests were 1/2 of those.

Alot of people know about Susanow..
It's not all that great for Stamina.(I've tested such with Burn,Flame, and Earth.)
Same with others within this organization.
Virgo is currently the best for Defense and Stamina within Hasbro. (Tested and Proven)
Bull and Aquario come second in the same subject, Susanow is after that.

Can I see tests?

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Hm... Well I've been doing tests and I'm getting decent results. Proper testing might get done today.

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I use Susanow instead of Bull, but I can use Virgo for Stamina and Defense, if it's top-tier. I didn't know Virgo was top-tier.

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