Hasbro Metagame Stadium & Combo Testing 2! Updates!!

(Sep. 09, 2011  11:40 PM)beyblades 2010 Wrote: This is my first time posting my test results if there is anything wrong feel free to help me out with it so that I could give better test results in the future.

Lightning L-drago CH120RF VS. Earth Bull SW145SF
Bey launcher + grip: Earth Bull SW145SF.
Ripcord launcher L + grip: Lightning L-drago CH120RF.
In Lightning Force stadium.

Results
Lightning L-drago CH120RF 30% (6 stadium outs 0 draws).
Earth Bull SW145SF 70% (1 stadium out 13 out spins 0 draws).

Im my opinion Earth Bull SW145SF works good as an defensive type. It has a very still mobility because of the weight of Earth, if I had a metal face I would test it with that but unfortunately I am still saving my moneys to buy some. The stamina is decent but not as good as it could be, but has enough to out spin attack types but against stamina types its not so well. I will post results with Earth Bull SW 145 VS. Earth Aquario DF145WD as soon as posible even though there not much of results so far.

I realy need feedback from this test and other test so I could get better Im begging you please give me feed back!

sorry for double post, but wanted to quote this test.

This combo looks promising, mind testing it with HF instead of SF? With the hole in the middle, it should have less friction on the stadium and it should have more stamina. It should have some decent movement though, so it might be prone to KO's against attack types.

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Ill try it out asap Ill have them up in a couple hours.
just got back from school
Bull:string launcher+grip 80-90%
L drago:Ripcord 100%
Here are the results, (10 battles)

BurnBull100D vs Lightning L-DragoCh120RF (Yellow stkr mode)

Bull wins 8 times (ALL outspins) (80%) only got ko'd 2wice
L-Drago wins 2 (20%) ko'd bull 2wice

From what iv seen burn+bull= good combo for stamina with greatish defence defence
And L-Drago on the other hand, good-great attack.
I will do more tests with Burn bull later...
What Stadium?
Mind if I do any tests to prove / disprove that combo?
This test is for WhiteCharisma
Lightning L-drago CH120RF VS. Earth bull SW145HF

Gear
Bey Launcher+grip: Earth Bull SW145HF
Light Launcher L+grip: Lightning L-drago CH120RF
Lightning Force Stadium

Results
Earth Bull SW145HF 70% (2 stadium outs, 12 out spins, 0 draws)
Lightning L-drago CH120 RF 30% (6 stadium outs, 0 out spins, 0 draws)

Overview
Changing SF to HF is a giant step down in defense and stamina. The only reason that is was able to avoid being stadium outed is because it moved more, simply moving away from the attacks. The stamina is also less, it didnt help at all with gaining stamina. In some cases it bearly out spun L-drago. I wouldnt realy trust using this combo that much depending on your opponent.
(Sep. 15, 2011  9:04 PM)qwertxj3 Wrote: What Stadium?

Lightning Force! =)
(Sep. 15, 2011  9:04 PM)qwertxj3 Wrote: What Stadium?

That was actually his second test. He is using Lightning Force, it said in his first post on the page before.

(Sep. 15, 2011  9:33 PM)Max Tate Wrote: Mind if I do any tests to prove / disprove that combo?

For sure! That's what this thread is for. I've been messing with it and it's decent.... Nothing too special, though I'm using Burn Bull 100WD/SD. I don't have D, but this thing gets KO'd A LOT!! And against other stamina types, its just not as good. Although Virgo is outclassed now, my 4 min mold still beats this combo when I use Virgo DF145/145 WD/SD.



And a little something to help this thread, which I think should be added to the OP is a test I did with how the paint affects the Stamina of beys. Didn't test how it affects it on rubber tips, only plastic so far.

This took a while, even though I did it for both stadiums 5 times, Virgo just seems to spin forever....

The test is comparing the Stamina of a Bey in a TT stadium VS Hasbro Stadium. The reason being is that the Hasbro Stadium has paint on it. Some people have removed it, others have not and I wanted to see if it really changes anything.

Results:

Virgo DF145SD in TT Attack Stadium:
Launched as hard as I could with Beylauncher R w/Launcher Grip.

1. 4min 15sec
2. 3min 51sec
3. 4min 44sec
4. 4min 16sec
5. 3min 58sec

Average: 4min 13 sec

Same test, only in Hasbro Lighting Force Stadium:

1. 4min 1sec
2. 4min 10sec
3. 4min 22sec
4. 4min 19sec
5. 4min 2sec

Average: 4min 11sec

Now, from what I saw in the results, there wasn't much of a difference in the Average. What I learned over the past years in science class labs is that my results from test 1 and test 2 are slightly different. In test 1 in the TT stadium, my numbers were not precise or consistent with one another, but it made the average about 4 min, which is my mold of Virgo. In test to in the Hasbro stadium, my results were a bit more consistent and precise, and the average was about 4 min, same as my mold of Virgo.

What I can conclude for now (rubber tips have a difference I think. they get stuff on their tips) is that the paint in Hasbro stadiums does NOT have an effect on the beyblade. At least, something that isn't really noticeable. It might slow it down a tiny bit, but it isn't enough to drastically change the stamina game.

Hope this helps for some people, I know it isn't really a test of two beys, but its something worth noting when people question the variables in Hasbro Stadiums.

Edit: oh yeah as a side note, this took like 45 min total to do lol I can't wait to spend more time testing orion when it comes out.... yay.... (7min spinner LOL)
Can someone do a test for me because i dont
have some of these parts?
Ok its Mf LightingL-DragoCh120RF vs Mf EarthBullC145WB
I don't have MF's but I have all of the remaining parts.
and which mode for LLD?
(Sep. 15, 2011  10:44 PM)Max Tate Wrote: I don't have MF's but I have all of the remaining parts.
and which mode for LLD?

Upper Mode
ok I will try to test it for you when I will have the time to do it.
MF LLD CH120RF(U-mode) vs MF Earth Bull C145WB
(Sep. 17, 2011  11:45 AM)stevebak Wrote: ok I will try to test it for you when I will have the time to do it.
MF LLD CH120RF(U-mode) vs MF Earth Bull C145WB

Ok thanks.
MF LLD CH120RF(U-mode) sticker covered 7-13 MF Earth Bull C145WB
MF LLD CH120RF(B-mode) sticker uncovered 0-20 MF Earth Bull C145WB
All ldrago wins where KO based.

stadium: MXS non gimmicked
Left launcher
Right launcher
(Sep. 17, 2011  4:57 PM)stevebak Wrote: MF LLD CH120RF(U-mode) sticker covered 7-13 MF Earth Bull C145WB
MF LLD CH120RF(B-mode) sticker uncovered 0-20 MF Earth Bull C145WB
All ldrago wins where KO based.

stadium: MXS non gimmicked
Left launcher
Right launcher

Thanks man for the test results.
Ok, I have some test results on the beyblade Ray Scorpio D125 R2F, which is made to attack high stamina beys. Since I have none, I tested it againts a low stamina, medium defence, and a LLD.
Stadium: Max Stampede no gimmicks, Right Ripchord (Hasbro) Launcher for all beys minus LLD, which had a Left Ripchord (Hasbro) Launcher.
Tests against Earth Bull 100 WD (20 tests):
Bull: 14 wins (10 OS, 4 KO)
Scorpio:6 wins (4 OS, 2 KO)
2 draws
Ray Scorpio win percentage: 30%
These tests slightly surprised me, only because of how many OSes Ray Scorpio got compared to KOs. And considering Earth Bull is a stamina bey, the loss of Ray Scorpio also surprises me. I must test Earth Bull's defensive ablilities later.
Tests against Earth Aquario GB145 CS (10 tests):
Aquario: 8 wins (5 OS, 3 KOs)
Scorpio: 2 wins (1 OS, 1 KO)
Ray Scorpio win percentage: 20%
Unsurprising test results, Defence> Attack.
Tests against LLD (Yellow stickers covered) 100 RF (Worn, still retains great aggression).
LLD: 8 wins (6 KOs, 2 OSs)
Scorpio: 2 wins (2 KOs, 0 OSs)
Ray Scorpio win percentage: 20%
Well, these test results were slightly surprising, only because of how LLD OSed Ray Scorpio more then once.

This beyblade may hold promise against 230 combos, but against low height stamina combos... no chance almost. When I obtain a 230, I will do tests against that. Until next testing...
~X
hate to break it to you, but earth bull is a well-known defence type. if you have flame OR burn, I suggest using one of them.
HF and left spin will probably OS R2F and right spin. I'm pretty sure RF>R2F stamina-wise.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
HF will definitely outspin RF or R2F.
R2F is faster than RF, but I think it has been stated that the stamina is not much of a difference.
--RS Testing--
My Grand Cetus arrived today, so I decided to do a little bit of testing on RS' defensive capabilities. Feedback would be appreciated and tell me if there is anything wrong. The tests are not over yet though! I'm still going to do tests with 125, 145, and GB145!

Procedure:
-RS (Mint)
-RF x2 (Slightly Worn one for the first 10 battles & Mint one for the last 10 battles)
-String Launcher
-Three-Segment Launcher
-Beylauncher L
-L-Drago Lightning Force Stadium
-Lightning L-Drago in Upper Mode


EARTH BULL 100RS TESTING RESULTS

Earth Bull 100RS vs. Lightning L-Drago 100RF

-EB 100RS: 14 Wins (3 KO, 11 OS)
-LLD 100RF: 6 Wins (6 KO, 0 OS)
-1 Draw
-Draw redone

Earth Bull 100RS vs. Lightning L-Drago 105RF

-EB 100RS: 14 Wins (4 KO, 10 OS)
-LLD 105RF: 6 Wins (5 KO, 1 OS)
-0 Draws

Earth Bull 100RS vs. Lightning L-Drago CH1120RF
-EB 100RS: 18 Wins (5 KO, 13 OS)
-LLD CH120RF: 2 Wins (2 KO, 0 OS)
-O Draws

EARTH BULL 105RS TESTING RESULTS

Earth Bull 105RS vs. Lightning L-Drago 100RF

-EB 105RS: 15 Wins (0 KO, 15 OS)
-LLD 100RF: 5 Wins (5 KO, 0 OS)
-0 Draws

Earth Bull 105RS vs. Lightning L-Drago 105RF

-EB 105RS: 16 Wins (2 KO, 16 OS)
-LLD 105RF: 4 Wins (4 KO, 0 OS)
-1 Draw
-Draw redone

Earth Bull 105RS vs. Lightning L-Drago CH120RF

-EB 105RS: 16 Wins (7 KO, 9 OS)
-LLD CH120RF: 4 Wins (3 KO, 1 OS)
-0 Draws

EARTH BULL CH120RS TESTING RESULTS

Earth Bull CH120RS vs. Lightning L-Drago 100RF

-EB CH120RS: 13 Wins (4 KO, 9 OS)
-LLD 100RF: 7 Wins (6 KO, 1 OS)
-0 Draws

Earth Bull CH120RS vs. Lightning L-Drago 105RF

-EB CH120RS: 18 Wins (3 KO, 15 OS)
-LLD 105RF: 2 Wins (2 KO, 0 OS)
-0 Draws
(Sep. 20, 2011  5:42 PM)Kai Hiwatari Wrote: HF will definitely outspin RF or R2F.
R2F is faster than RF, but I think it has been stated that the stamina is not much of a difference.

R2F has more friction, thus making it have less stamina.
Can we replace RF/R²F for Lightning Ldrago to CS?
EDit: ^ Depends on how aggresive your CS is, but in most cases, all 3 tips should be great choices for attack, as each has thier own attributes. Because of it's defensive nature as well as attack, CS always seems like the better choice. R2F has the fastest movement of the 3 because it has more surface area, allowing for more contact or friction with the stadium floor, however, it has the worst stamina, whereas RF has slightly better stamina, but less movement. Both RF and R2F should have equal power though, it is simply a matter of preferance. Like I said before, when it comes to CS, it is the most well rounded, as it contains attributes from all 3 types.

Hasbro bladers, forgive me for my absence. I understand that much has happened since my unannounced departure, but I am back now.

Because I do not have the time to read through everything I missed, anyone is allowed to pm me about updates to the OP they wish to make, signifigant testing that occured over my absence, or stadium testing (I am hoping that tests were done in DD and LL?)

And because this is not a questions thread, all are welcome to pm me questions about this topic.

It's good to be back

LT13
should we try to put up what we have so far as a starting point because as is we have little to nothing that is outright stated without having to look thru 27 pages of posts and then refine the tiers and compile the tests and edit them in afterwards
They have a tier list that they will post once they get "Twisted" and 230 tests.
If you are interested... I did some test with twised bull 230CS if you want i can post them later on.