It was an observation, not a stated fact :p
Hasbro Metagame Stadium & Combo Testing 2! Updates!!
(Sep. 11, 2011 2:43 AM)WhiteCharisma Wrote: Sorry I guess I read the first post wrong, missed the part about "Sharing" the top tier list of some TT stadium combos. That was pretty much what I was getting at, like if a defense or stamina combo is top-tier in TT, why isn't it listed here? lolOnce again, because this is the "Hasbro Metagame Stadium and Combo Testing" thread. There are many other threads discussing TT combos and parts testing, and you wouldn't have to be here in the last 4 months to know that. And yes, Vulcan has been out-classed by Beat, Fang, and possibly Variares. Thunder is a decent stamina and defense wheel, but out-classed in both categories.
Oh and I'm not sure if anyone has really tested it, but I'm curious how any Vulcan attack combos do in Hasbro stadiums. I'll probably buy something with a Vulcan wheel later, but I haven't seen anything about it lately, and I even noticed its not in many top-tier attack combos anymore. Is it outdated now? lol I've been away from this site for like 4 months and things sure have changed!
***Oh and also Thunder/Infinity defense/stamina testing. Haven't seen that much either and from what I can tell at ToysRus, Thunder is VERY popular. Thunder Libra sells like hot cakes.... Didn't even get a chance to snag one before they were gone.
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Yes, but if they do good in a TT stadium they should do well as well in a Hasbro stadium.
That's what he's getting at!
That's what he's getting at!
BUT WHAT HE'S GETTING AT IS WRONG!
No need to spazz out there.
And what he's getting at may be wrong, but there's no need to be so hostile and rude to him. Just because they are making incorrect assumptions gives you no right to be acting the way you are.
Please now, let's get back on topic.
And what he's getting at may be wrong, but there's no need to be so hostile and rude to him. Just because they are making incorrect assumptions gives you no right to be acting the way you are.
Please now, let's get back on topic.
I already stated what was he was trying to get at was wrong and would be of no use to this thread, yet he still trys to get his point across. I'm sorry if it came off as rude, but this entire thread is pretty self-explanatory and if he had any questions about it then he could have easily read the OP.
You're the only one who thinks he's wrong. His point makes perfect sense. I bet there are loads of members out there which buy takara beys but only have TT stadiums. Also some of the parts are coming out for Hasbro now so you might as well get a head start on testing. Who cares if you don't like it... It's not your thread. Also you're 13 and you've been here two months. You clearly don't know everything and yet you keep getting into fights with more experienced members than you.
How does my age matter? How does how long I've been here matter? He was talking about testing in Takara Tomy stadiums instead of Hasbro stadiums, but this is strictly Hasbro stadiums, so I told him. Then, he said if a combo is good in a TT stadium, why isn't it here, so I told him why once again. And it doesn't matter if loads of members have TT beys and stadiums, they can go and test in a TT testing thread, not a Hasbro strictly one. It is a rule in the thread to not post test results of parts not released by Hasbro yet 
And what fight??
And what fight??
Because how long you've been here relates to your experience and knowledge maybe... Also maybe the fact that you're young is the reason you're very stubborn! That's not what he was saying. Read properly. He's saying we should test things that are good in TT stadiums in Hasbro ones. Which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do yet you're flying off the handle and calling it wrong for some reason. I haven't really read the OP but if that is a rule then it's pretty rediculous since there is normally little to no differences between Hasbro and Takara parts. Maybe we should test how the takara ones do now instead of waiting months for Hasbro to release them. Just to give us a view into how they will most likely do. Um this fight maybe where you're arguing with Rai and WhiteCharisma who have been here longer than you so you should listen to them instead of being arrogant.
MF Hell Kerbecs BD145 CS (Balance) is good when used in stadiums hasbro meetings in "all against all" ??
And Burn Gasher 85 WD (Stamina) ??
And Burn Gasher 85 WD (Stamina) ??
Agreeing 100% with Ultrablader.
Max, what he was suggeesting is that if a combo is good in a TAKARA TOMY Attack Type Stadium, it should be considered here as well.
You apparently took that statement, and twisted it into that we should test it in a TAKARA TOMY Attack Type Stadium. He was suggesting that we do it in a HASBRO stadium, with a similar slope to the TAKARA TOMY Attack Type Stadium, such as the Lightning Force, or Max Stampede.
Max, what he was suggeesting is that if a combo is good in a TAKARA TOMY Attack Type Stadium, it should be considered here as well.
You apparently took that statement, and twisted it into that we should test it in a TAKARA TOMY Attack Type Stadium. He was suggesting that we do it in a HASBRO stadium, with a similar slope to the TAKARA TOMY Attack Type Stadium, such as the Lightning Force, or Max Stampede.
I have the yellow thunderwhip pegasis stadium is this any good? No gimmicks by the way
It says in the OP that only Lightning Force and Maximum Stampede are to be used for testing. However if you were just asking whether the stadium is good then this definately isn't the right place.
no I was just asking that isnt the yellow thunderwhip stadium exactly the same as the lightning force stadium beside the colour change
first off, go here: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Ask-a-qu...n-answer-2
second, there are many differences. slope, center, slope, slope. I put slope because: THERE IS NONE. the stadium is killjoy for attack types. I reccomend getting the Max stampede stadium (WITHOUT craters) or the Lightning force stadium, if you plan on testing for this thread. Thank you and have a Beytastic day!
second, there are many differences. slope, center, slope, slope. I put slope because: THERE IS NONE. the stadium is killjoy for attack types. I reccomend getting the Max stampede stadium (WITHOUT craters) or the Lightning force stadium, if you plan on testing for this thread. Thank you and have a Beytastic day!
(Sep. 12, 2011 7:19 PM)geminikid13 Wrote: first off, go here: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Ask-a-qu...n-answer-2
second, there are many differences. slope, center, slope, slope. I put slope because: THERE IS NONE. the stadium is killjoy for attack types. I reccomend getting the Max stampede stadium (WITHOUT craters) or the Lightning force stadium, if you plan on testing for this thread. Thank you and have a Beytastic day!
Also the tornado ridge doesnt work as well as the other stadiums, not like the tornado ridge in the other stadiums work that well either though, most of the hasbro tornado ridges suck.
Just to point out if you are only using the best stadiums of Hasbro this is not a Hasbro stadium testing thread first off right now this is a Hasbro thread only using Hasbro parts in restricted Hasbro stadiums.
A Hasbro Stadium Testing Thread would be using TT parts and Hasbro parts in Hasbro Stadiums.
The Hasbro thread would be using all stadiums and only Hasbro parts.
Here is the Competitive Hasbro Thread it uses Restricted Stadiums and Only Hasbro parts.
Seriously which thread is this Please Decide the competitive Thread is what it is know which is really irrelevant to any contribution thing I know I'm going to get argued over this but think if all Hasbro Stadiums suck why use one over another what this one’s sucks but sucks less please think about that Unfair Stadiums however never being used Stadiums targeting SVS here should not be tested I know a lot of points here are wrong but I don't know any other way to get these important facts out.
A Hasbro Stadium Testing Thread would be using TT parts and Hasbro parts in Hasbro Stadiums.
The Hasbro thread would be using all stadiums and only Hasbro parts.
Here is the Competitive Hasbro Thread it uses Restricted Stadiums and Only Hasbro parts.
Seriously which thread is this Please Decide the competitive Thread is what it is know which is really irrelevant to any contribution thing I know I'm going to get argued over this but think if all Hasbro Stadiums suck why use one over another what this one’s sucks but sucks less please think about that Unfair Stadiums however never being used Stadiums targeting SVS here should not be tested I know a lot of points here are wrong but I don't know any other way to get these important facts out.
But Hasbro doesn't USE the best parts for tournaments. We're not trying to make Hasbro stadiums legal here. If that were the case, we'd have accomplished that a LONG time ago. Also, Geminikid, why did you essentially copy my post? And Hasbro TRs are VERY useful to F-based combos. (Minus PTW, of course.)
Wrong. Look back at the old Hasbro thread. My first few tests showed that Vulcan mowed through most combos. Besides-Basalt Aquario 230CS. Yeah, your argument just died.
(Sep. 11, 2011 8:56 PM)Max Tate Wrote: BUT WHAT HE'S GETTING AT IS WRONG!
Wrong. Look back at the old Hasbro thread. My first few tests showed that Vulcan mowed through most combos. Besides-Basalt Aquario 230CS. Yeah, your argument just died.
(Sep. 14, 2011 12:46 AM)Temporal Wrote: Wrong. Look back at the old Hasbro thread. My first few tests showed that Vulcan mowed through most combos. Besides-Basalt Aquario 230CS. Yeah, your argument just died.Nice try...but I was not referring in any way to Vulcan. Everybody who follows the TT metagame knows that Vulcan is great, but is now sadly out-classed.
Basalt Aquario 230CS. Nuff said. I never said Vulcan killed your argument. Basalt killed your argument, of course.
He didn't say that you specifically were. It's called an example.
Thanks for trying vouching for what I was saying guys. I'm glad someone understands what I was getting across. But less talk, more tests:
Something I posted a loooonnnnggg time ago in the very first Hasbro stadium testing thread, I think LeonTempest might remember, it was right when the L-Drago stadium became available.
I decided to revive this and retest to see if it still works. Before, I tested this combo against Earth Cancer CH145WD only because GB145 wasn't readily available for everyone. Now that I can make the top tier MF Earth Bull GB145CS, its time to try it again.
My combo is an attack type combo ONLY for effective in a Hasbro Stadium:
Lightning L-Drago105HF vs MF Earth Bull GB145CS
Lightning L-Drago105HF: 17 wins (11 OS, 6 KO)
MF Earth Bull GB145CS: 3 wins (3 KO)
-Hasbro Lightning Force Stadium
-MF Earth Bull Launched at ~80%-90% with Beylauncher R w/Launcher Grip
-Lightning L-Drago Launched at ~85%-100% with Beylauncher w/Launcher Grip
-LL-Drago is in "Upper" Mode
-Always launched both beys in a corner and let it go down the "slope" into the center of the stadium.
-CS is brand new, just got it today.
-HF is in new condition, not dented anywhere, still has circle shape.
-MF is Takara, shouldn't matter too much.
-All parts are Hasbro except Lightning, L-Drago, and HF (Takara). Shouldn't effect too much.
Other notes: Lightning L-Drago 105HF self KO'd 2 times, I re-tested instead of counting it toward the 20 match total.
As you can see, it's pretty decent against a defense type. Not very may people cared back then because they kept arguing with me that it is ineffective in TT stadiums, but I said this is Hasbro specific.
Some things to know to make this combo work: Launch the LL-Drago combo at an ANGLE!! It changes the effect of HF if you don't, but it still has a high chance of winning. This combo is low, but not low enough to scrape. Thats why the normal LL-Drago 100HF isn't so special, because it scrapes. The fact that its low and has great upper, it gets under beys and launches them when it makes contact. Most of the time, KO'ing them. The reason I don't use a Metal Face is because it dramatically reduces movement, and movement is key in this combo. It doesn't move as fast as RF, but it moves fast enough. I don't know how to describe the behavior that well, but it spins in place at an angle, then moves around in the "flower" pattern, repeating the motion where it spins in place, then moves, spins in place, then moves, etc. A metal face nullifies this movement and it hinders the combo instead of making it more effective.
I've been playing Hasbro metagame throughout my beyblading years. Never used a TT stadium til MFB. My combos either consisted of a Bearing core or Semi-Flat blade bases, so you can see where the inspiration of this combo comes from. Never used rubber flat combos because they did poorly since Hasbro stadiums back then didn't have tornado ridges.
One other variable that is very important is that Hasbro stadiums have paint for a design, and I'm sure you are all aware of this. I think it drastically reduces the Stamina of CS, the reason for it not being able to outspin LL-Drago. I'll try to test the loss in Stamina with my 4-min Virgo mold in a TT stadium and compare it to Lightning Force. I can definitely see that the paint does have an effect on CS in battles and it looks like it slows it down a lot. Either that, or my CS has horrible stamina, but it seemed fine in my TT attack stadium. Hopefully the difference in numbers will tell us something about how much the paint in stadiums effects stamina types.
Hopefully this is some new info for you guys. I haven't posted in such a long time, I'm not sure if this combo has been tested or proven to be good yet.
I honestly believe it is Top-Tier in Hasbro stadiums. I'll test it against low defense type combos as well. I think that is the kryptonite of this combo, since it's main goal is getting under the other bey. You guys should try it!! I don't have that many parts, and Basalt is coming in the mail, so I'd love to see how it does against the better Defense types. I'm sure Basalt would destroy this thing lol
sorry for double post, but wanted to quote this test.
This combo looks promising, mind testing it with HF instead of SF? With the hole in the middle, it should have less friction on the stadium and it should have more stamina. It should have some decent movement though, so it might be prone to KO's against attack types.
Something I posted a loooonnnnggg time ago in the very first Hasbro stadium testing thread, I think LeonTempest might remember, it was right when the L-Drago stadium became available.
I decided to revive this and retest to see if it still works. Before, I tested this combo against Earth Cancer CH145WD only because GB145 wasn't readily available for everyone. Now that I can make the top tier MF Earth Bull GB145CS, its time to try it again.
My combo is an attack type combo ONLY for effective in a Hasbro Stadium:
Lightning L-Drago105HF vs MF Earth Bull GB145CS
Lightning L-Drago105HF: 17 wins (11 OS, 6 KO)
MF Earth Bull GB145CS: 3 wins (3 KO)
-Hasbro Lightning Force Stadium
-MF Earth Bull Launched at ~80%-90% with Beylauncher R w/Launcher Grip
-Lightning L-Drago Launched at ~85%-100% with Beylauncher w/Launcher Grip
-LL-Drago is in "Upper" Mode
-Always launched both beys in a corner and let it go down the "slope" into the center of the stadium.
-CS is brand new, just got it today.
-HF is in new condition, not dented anywhere, still has circle shape.
-MF is Takara, shouldn't matter too much.
-All parts are Hasbro except Lightning, L-Drago, and HF (Takara). Shouldn't effect too much.
Other notes: Lightning L-Drago 105HF self KO'd 2 times, I re-tested instead of counting it toward the 20 match total.
As you can see, it's pretty decent against a defense type. Not very may people cared back then because they kept arguing with me that it is ineffective in TT stadiums, but I said this is Hasbro specific.
Some things to know to make this combo work: Launch the LL-Drago combo at an ANGLE!! It changes the effect of HF if you don't, but it still has a high chance of winning. This combo is low, but not low enough to scrape. Thats why the normal LL-Drago 100HF isn't so special, because it scrapes. The fact that its low and has great upper, it gets under beys and launches them when it makes contact. Most of the time, KO'ing them. The reason I don't use a Metal Face is because it dramatically reduces movement, and movement is key in this combo. It doesn't move as fast as RF, but it moves fast enough. I don't know how to describe the behavior that well, but it spins in place at an angle, then moves around in the "flower" pattern, repeating the motion where it spins in place, then moves, spins in place, then moves, etc. A metal face nullifies this movement and it hinders the combo instead of making it more effective.
I've been playing Hasbro metagame throughout my beyblading years. Never used a TT stadium til MFB. My combos either consisted of a Bearing core or Semi-Flat blade bases, so you can see where the inspiration of this combo comes from. Never used rubber flat combos because they did poorly since Hasbro stadiums back then didn't have tornado ridges.
One other variable that is very important is that Hasbro stadiums have paint for a design, and I'm sure you are all aware of this. I think it drastically reduces the Stamina of CS, the reason for it not being able to outspin LL-Drago. I'll try to test the loss in Stamina with my 4-min Virgo mold in a TT stadium and compare it to Lightning Force. I can definitely see that the paint does have an effect on CS in battles and it looks like it slows it down a lot. Either that, or my CS has horrible stamina, but it seemed fine in my TT attack stadium. Hopefully the difference in numbers will tell us something about how much the paint in stadiums effects stamina types.
Hopefully this is some new info for you guys. I haven't posted in such a long time, I'm not sure if this combo has been tested or proven to be good yet.
I honestly believe it is Top-Tier in Hasbro stadiums. I'll test it against low defense type combos as well. I think that is the kryptonite of this combo, since it's main goal is getting under the other bey. You guys should try it!! I don't have that many parts, and Basalt is coming in the mail, so I'd love to see how it does against the better Defense types. I'm sure Basalt would destroy this thing lol
(Sep. 09, 2011 11:40 PM)beyblades 2010 Wrote: This is my first time posting my test results if there is anything wrong feel free to help me out with it so that I could give better test results in the future.
Lightning L-drago CH120RF VS. Earth Bull SW145SF
Bey launcher + grip: Earth Bull SW145SF.
Ripcord launcher L + grip: Lightning L-drago CH120RF.
In Lightning Force stadium.
Results
Lightning L-drago CH120RF 30% (6 stadium outs 0 draws).
Earth Bull SW145SF 70% (1 stadium out 13 out spins 0 draws).
Im my opinion Earth Bull SW145SF works good as an defensive type. It has a very still mobility because of the weight of Earth, if I had a metal face I would test it with that but unfortunately I am still saving my moneys to buy some. The stamina is decent but not as good as it could be, but has enough to out spin attack types but against stamina types its not so well. I will post results with Earth Bull SW 145 VS. Earth Aquario DF145WD as soon as posible even though there not much of results so far.
I realy need feedback from this test and other test so I could get better Im begging you please give me feed back!
sorry for double post, but wanted to quote this test.
This combo looks promising, mind testing it with HF instead of SF? With the hole in the middle, it should have less friction on the stadium and it should have more stamina. It should have some decent movement though, so it might be prone to KO's against attack types.
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I am going to test Burn Bull 100D vs Ray Virgo Ch120 Rf
Stadium: lightning force
Both beys will be launched with
Grip without rubber, string launcher
BBull will be launched first
then R Virgo
Be back in 20 min.
EDIT: Here are the results
Burnbull100D Vs Ray Virgo100RF
Bull win percentige rate: 85%
OS: 13 KOs: 3 KO'd: 4
Ray virgo Percentige rate: 15%
OS: 0 KOs: 5
Well, this was intresting, Burn bull was
an amazing stamina type with some defence potential.
I recomemd burn bull 100D for Top Tier stamina for hasbro
in my point of view.
Stadium: lightning force
Both beys will be launched with
Grip without rubber, string launcher
BBull will be launched first
then R Virgo
Be back in 20 min.
EDIT: Here are the results
Burnbull100D Vs Ray Virgo100RF
Bull win percentige rate: 85%
OS: 13 KOs: 3 KO'd: 4
Ray virgo Percentige rate: 15%
OS: 0 KOs: 5
Well, this was intresting, Burn bull was
an amazing stamina type with some defence potential.
I recomemd burn bull 100D for Top Tier stamina for hasbro
in my point of view.
(Sep. 15, 2011 2:11 AM)SuperBeyMan Wrote: I am going to test Burn Bull 100D vs Ray Virgo Ch120 Rf
Stadium: lightning force
Both beys will be launched with
Grip without rubber, string launcher
BBull will be launched first
then R Virgo
Be back in 20 min.
EDIT: Here are the results
Burnbull100D Vs Ray Virgo100RF
Bull win percentige rate: 85%
OS: 13 KOs: 3 KO'd: 4
Ray virgo Percentige rate: 15%
OS: 0 KOs: 5
Well, this was intresting, Burn bull was
an amazing stamina type with some defence potential.
I recomemd burn bull 100D for Top Tier stamina for hasbro
in my point of view.
The only problem with the test is that it wasn't tested against a top-tier attack type beyblade. I think that's a requirement. If it were say, MF LL-Drago 100RF you might have much different results because it has much better attack. I've personally tested Burn Bull/Gasher 100WD/SD with sup par results vs MF LL-Drago so I'm not sure how much of a difference D makes. You should also test it against another stamina type to see how it does. I think a worthy opponent if you don't have Hell Kerbecs is to use an Earth Bull/Gasher 100D/WD/SD against it. Earth has much better defensive qualities then Burn, and is also a great stamina type wheel. I think this combo has been proven pretty effective, though might not be a true top-tier.
Overall I think it was a good test. Definitely gotta try more Burn stamina combos to see if it is still effective in the Hasbro metagame!!
Alright, when i get back from school ill do tests
with burn bull . also i got 2 bull clear wheels, so ill use those
for testing burn.
But I'll Use LLD 100RF for testing
for now
with burn bull . also i got 2 bull clear wheels, so ill use those
for testing burn.
But I'll Use LLD 100RF for testing
for now