Hasbro Metagame Stadium & Combo Testing 2! Updates!!

(Feb. 06, 2012  5:12 AM)th!nk Wrote:
(Feb. 06, 2012  5:05 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: ^Maximum Stampede w/ Cratera is the only missing stadium from thatt list

Do we really have to include the Graffiti Den and Rip Grind stadium and the Half pipe stadium? That is a bit ridiculous. They arent even stadiums at all

Hazel: Thats not a bad idea, but thats going to be alot to navigate through, and alot of it may not end up being concrete evidence. worth a shot though

I like how you make it sound like it's a pain to you to put a couple extra stadiums and related testing in the OP.

Honestly, if it's so much hassle for you, just let someone who is capable of managing this kind of thing open a new thread.

I am not saying for me. Early on I got complaints that the OP (which i put alot of work into) was way to cluttered. I am saying listing 20 stadiums as headings, each with thier own tests, may cause a bit of a problem, even with spoilers. I can easily add them, but I am not talking about me

Spoilers within spoilers?
Spoiler the whole thing. Information is the important thing. If it looks messy I can try formatting it so it's more legible.

I'd spoiler the testing part, then have the list of the stadiums, each one of them being a spoiler with the results for that stadium inside.
I am fine with testing all of the stadiums, but those skate board things are not stadiums. Its not about putting in effort into including those 3 products, its about why would one test something that doesnt even fit the criteria of a stadium? You might as well call Tornado Battlers a part of the HWS sysetm if we are to call those 3 things stadiums
Hasbro call them stadiums, then they're stadiums.

If hasbro deem them illegal for use outside XTS system tops, then you could make an argument for not including them, but as kids will be using them with normal tops anyway, if someone decides to pick one up and test it, there is no harm in including those results in the OP.
Worst comes to worst, I alphabatize the OP and spoilers will be the entire format
(Feb. 06, 2012  5:23 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: Worst comes to worst, I alphabatize the OP and spoilers will be the entire format

That would probably make sense. I know it's not that pretty but at least with spoilers people can find the information they're after easily.
Honestly I think we must cut out the XTS line. This is btw, the Hasbro METAGAME.

If we are to include XTS stadiums we must include the XTS tops, no?
It just doesnt seem practical in the slightest. It doesnt even look like more than one bey can be launched in them they are so small...no one uses them for tourneys anyway, and you would have to be foolsih to buy one in the 1st place. We will keep them on thier, but I dont see the point. Still, they will be kept there
Just leave it up there, and if someone wants to test them, put the testing in.

If you rebuild the "testing needed" list though, don't include them in it.
I would love to cut all of the XTS line, but DD and LL are just normal stadiums. It would make the most sense to keep those 2 and just drop everything else from XTS
Will do th!nk.

For now though, I am going to do what Kai-V sugessted; sleep. almost 12am...
Just focus on maximising the information you can get. If no one tests in the extreme sport stadiums then it's not a big deal, if they do, put the testing up.

All hasbro stadiums are dumb, they're just slightly different variations on dumb.
Sorry, I meant to do this last night but I had to sleep.

Let's continue with the attack testing.


I quoted my old post testing lld uncustomized, and it did well. I tried GB145, and it didn't do as well.

(Jan. 16, 2012  6:08 PM)kbuno50 Wrote: Lightning L Drago 100HF vs. Earth Bull AD145WD
Burning Firestrike stadium, Lightning L Drago deeply banked, modded ripcord launchers, worn WD

Lightning L Drago 100HF: 7 wins (6 KOs, 1 OS)
Earth Bull AD145WD: 3 wins (2 OS, 1 KO)
0 draws

Lightning L Drago win percentage: 70 %

Lightning L Drago GB145HF vs. Earth Bull AD145WD
Burning Firestrike, LLD sliding shoot, ripcord launchers, worn WD, fairly new HF

Lightning L Drago 100HF: 6 wins (All KOs)
Earth Bull AD145WD : 4 wins (All OS)

GB145 win percentage: 60%

I'm going to test D125 now.
The OP says:

OP Wrote:All stadiums may be sued for testing.

I laughed my head off.

If any stadium can be used, I can supply some tests with my Thunderwhip.
(Feb. 06, 2012  9:49 PM)Cygnus Wrote: The OP says:

OP Wrote:All stadiums may be sued for testing.

I laughed my head off.

If any stadium can be used, I can supply some tests with my Thunderwhip.

I literally read that as sued like legal action and I was real confused for a moment. Smile
Then I though "Hooo carp, that's not good".
I'm really curious as to this now.

Also the OP doesn't mention rip guage launchers. So are there any limits or rules with those or can we not use them?
Lightning L-Drago (Upper Attack mode) D125HF vs. Earth Bull AD145WD
WD worn, HF slightly worn, Burning Firestrike, LLD sliding shot

Lightning L-Drago D125HF: 4 wins (all KOs)
Earth Bull AD145WD: 6 wins (All OS)

D125 win percentage: 40%

I guess LLD does best when the "heads" hit underneath the other bey. Also, Earth Bull was wallsaved so much LLD would've 100%ed it in a TT attack.

Lightning L-Drago (Upper Atack) 100HF vs. Earth Bull GB145CS

Lightning L-Drago 100HF: 6 wins (3 KOs, 3 OS)
Earth Bull GB145CS: NONE

Ties: 2


CS is a failure in hasbro stadiums. The lack of a good TR results in uselessness with CS. Either LLD would knock it out, or it would spin-equalize and destabilize(lol, same -ize ending). I stopped at 6 'cause there was no hope for that little guy.

EDIT: forgot to close bold and underline

EDIT: more tests Grin
hasbro, i believe you have a derped up meta

Lightning L-Drago (atk mode) 100HF vs. Earth Bull GB145RS

Lightning L-Drago 100HF: 9 wins (1 KO, 9 OS)
Earth Bull GB145RS: 1 win (1 KO)

1 tie redone

LLD win percentage: 90% Grin

Yeah, LLD kept on spin-equalizing and destabilizing. That one KO (hf KOs rs) was from LLD hitting it near a pocket, and reaching around and smashing it into the other side into the other pocket. The other KO was from Earth Bull defending and smashing LLD to the pocket. Other than that, RS + hasbro stadium = no winnage
Haha sorry for the typo. Corrected
Thanks for your great tests! =D

*shudders at Burning Firestrike...

I am not fond of the fact that we allow such crappy stadiums now. Stadium indents? BLECH!

Even so, if it makes you all happy, then I am fine with it
I saw a ripgrind and a graffiti den at my meijer today.

Brief description:

The middle ring area is not completely flat, it seems ptwish, but the slope seems more MXSish.
(Feb. 06, 2012  3:37 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: I get what you are saying, but how is testing Burning Firestrike or Bolt Blast productive? They are gimmicks, and stadiums like PTW are a joke, not that these are signifigantly better, but better nonetheless.

I would like to see a change to, but th fact is that no one follows through with thier promises. I will admit I wasnt very good this last week with the OP update, but I got it done. How many people this past week alone have promised posting DD test results but then never posted agian on this thread?

This thread ahs become a shell of its former self, and I do take responsibiliy, but you guys are making it sound like I killed someone and that the world ois going to end.

The main updates to the OP are finished. Super simplified, but there are still some kinks I would like to work out. I am going to add a tier list heading tomarrow, with some attack type parts catagorized by Tier 1 and Tier 2.

After I post this mock tier list, I will spend a few days working on what i wanted from the start, an analysis of the tier list, and why it is different. For example, I will write on why high recoil wheel like rock are useful for atack, and how flat tips perform differently compatred to BB-10.

If the both of you really wish to save this thread, stop flaming me, let me consider what you have said, and let me improve the thread. You whining about it will only drive this thread into the ground even further.

Agian, I do take responsibility for this thread, but that doesnt make me a punching bag.

you know I am not trying to bash on you but, I did PM you and ask you in the thread how would I go about testing the DD stadium and from a wbo stand point what was I looking for to deem it worthy. it would have been nice to get a response from you so that I coulda kept a promise that you pointed out was not done. on the bright side ill be posting some tests soon
Hey, could we at least get some more testing done here? Leon allowed all stadiums to be tested, but no one still tests.
OK, I'll be testing the DD.

Requests shall be taken.
A good idea is to test LLD, mostly a lot of ATK wheels to see what tracks and tips they're good on, and what opponents they do good against, like I did.
(Feb. 07, 2012  2:42 AM)BlackHeart1216 Wrote:
(Feb. 06, 2012  3:37 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: I get what you are saying, but how is testing Burning Firestrike or Bolt Blast productive? They are gimmicks, and stadiums like PTW are a joke, not that these are signifigantly better, but better nonetheless.

I would like to see a change to, but th fact is that no one follows through with thier promises. I will admit I wasnt very good this last week with the OP update, but I got it done. How many people this past week alone have promised posting DD test results but then never posted agian on this thread?

This thread ahs become a shell of its former self, and I do take responsibiliy, but you guys are making it sound like I killed someone and that the world ois going to end.

The main updates to the OP are finished. Super simplified, but there are still some kinks I would like to work out. I am going to add a tier list heading tomarrow, with some attack type parts catagorized by Tier 1 and Tier 2.

After I post this mock tier list, I will spend a few days working on what i wanted from the start, an analysis of the tier list, and why it is different. For example, I will write on why high recoil wheel like rock are useful for atack, and how flat tips perform differently compatred to BB-10.

If the both of you really wish to save this thread, stop flaming me, let me consider what you have said, and let me improve the thread. You whining about it will only drive this thread into the ground even further.

Agian, I do take responsibility for this thread, but that doesnt make me a punching bag.

you know I am not trying to bash on you but, I did PM you and ask you in the thread how would I go about testing the DD stadium and from a wbo stand point what was I looking for to deem it worthy. it would have been nice to get a response from you so that I coulda kept a promise that you pointed out was not done. on the bright side ill be posting some tests soon

Lynxx: Test any right spin attackers, like Ray Unicorno 85/90WF/XF

I didnt respond to your pm? I could have sworn I did...expect a respinse from me in a few minuetes, dont worry

85, 90, WF, XF are hard to obtain in New Zealand atm. Maybe I might have to hold up DD testing till the Ultimate MLD absorb or the L-Drago battle set or Bakushin Susanow comes to New Zealand.
Tests with any attack tips would suffice, so long as you used a tier 2ish defense bey, like an Earth Combo. Ray Striker 100SF/F/RF would be cool