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[Hasbro]  Caynox C3 Testing and Discussion

Jun. 25, 2018  3:28 AM
 
Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Jormuntor J2 7Glaive Atomic (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3.7.Br: 13 OS (65% Win Rate)
- J2.7G.At: 4 Burst, 3 OS (35% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 Knuckle Bearing (Odd) vs. Jormuntor J2 7Glaive Atomic (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3.K.Br: 5 OS, 2 KO (35% Win Rate)
- J2.7G.At: 10 OS, 3 Burst (65% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 Gravity Bearing (Odd) vs. Jormuntor J2 7Glaive Atomic (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3.G.Br: 9 OS, 1 KO (50% Win Rate)
- J2.7G.At: 6 OS, 4 Burst (50% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Kerbeus 7Glaive Orbit (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3.7.Br: 16 OS, 3 Burst (95% Win Rate)
- K.7G.O: 1 Burst (5% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Glaive Atomic (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3.7.Br: 17 OS, 1 Burst (90% Win Rate)
- U.7G.At: 2 Burst (10% Win Rate)
Jun. 25, 2018  6:24 AM
 
C3 7 Br vs K 7g At alternate launches
C3 7 Br vs j2 7g orbit alternate launches
C3 7 Br vs Y 7g At alternate launches
C3 7 Br vs a2 7g at alternate launches
Jun. 30, 2018  10:16 AM
 
Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Kerbeus 7Glaive Atomic (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3.7.Br: 19 OS, 1 KO (100% Win Rate)
- K.7G.At: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Jormuntor J2 7Glaive Orbit (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3 7Br: 14 OS (70% Win Rate)
- J2 7GO: 5 OS, 1 Burst (30% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Yegdrion 7Glaive Atomic (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3.7.Br: 8 OS, 1 Burst (45% Win Rate)
- Y.7G.At: 9 OS, 2 Burst (55% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Anubion A2 7Glaive Atomic (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3.7.Br: 8 OS, 3 Burst, 1 KO (60% Win Rate)
- A2.7G.At: 5 OS, 3 Burst (40% Win Rate)
Jun. 30, 2018  3:14 PM
 
C3 7 br vs a2 7g orbit alternate launches
C3 7 Br vs u 7g o alternate launches
C3 7c Ds vs u 7g at first
C3 7C Ds vs f3 7c Br first
C3 7 Br first moderate vs roktavor 0cross weight second
Jul. 17, 2018  3:45 AM
 
Caynox C3 7 Bearing (First) vs. Jormuntor J2 0Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Rebel Blader
- C3.7.Br: 7 OS, 1 KO (40% Win Rate)
- J2.0G.Ds: 11 Burst, 1 KO (60% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Anubion A2 7Glaive Orbit (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3.7.Br: 10 OS (50% Win Rate)
- A2.7G.O: 9 OS, 1 Burst (50% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Glaive Orbit (Even): Rebel Blader
- C3.7.Br: 17 OS, 1 Burst (90% Win Rate)
- U.7G.O: 1 OS, 1 Burst (10% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Glaive Atomic (First) vs. Caynox C3 7Cross Destroy (Second): Rebel Blader
- U.7G.At: 4 Burst (20% Win Rate)
- C3.7C.Ds: 10 OS, 4 KO, 2 Burst (80% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Cross Bearing (First) vs. Caynox C3 7Cross Destroy (Second): Rebel Blader
- F3.7C.Br: 10 OS, 7 Burst, 1 KO (90% Win Rate)
- C3.7C.Ds: 2 KO (10% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (First Moderate) vs. Roktavor 0Cross Weight (Second): Rebel Blader
- C3.7.Br: 19 OS (95% Win Rate)
- R.0C.W: 1 OS (5% Win Rate)
Jul. 17, 2018  6:58 AM
 
(Jul. 17, 2018  3:45 AM)kjrules17 Wrote: (Caynox) C3 7Br (First Moderate) vs R 0CW (Second): Rebel Blader
- C3 7Br: 19 SFs (95% Win Rate)
- R 0CW: 1 SF (5% Win Rate)
U sure u got these results?
Also do caynox 7 bearing vs cognite c3 0g at alternate launches
Jul. 17, 2018  12:38 PM
 
(Jul. 17, 2018  6:58 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote: U sure u got these results?
Yeah, when the battle was reaching its end, Caynox C3 was able to outspin Roktavor a lot. Might've also been due to Caynox C3 being moderately launched like you wanted me to. If Caynox C3 was hard launched, Roktavor probably would've Burst it.
Jul. 18, 2018  9:39 PM
 
@[Wombat]

Caynox C3 7 Revolve (Odd) vs. Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (Even): Wombat
- C3.7.R: 9 OS (45% Win Rate)
- G3.7C.At: 8 OS, 3 Burst (55% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (Even): Wombat
- C3.7.Br: 7 OS (35% Win Rate)
- G3.7C.At: 13 OS (65% Win Rate)
Jul. 20, 2018  6:59 PM
 
@[Defensa]

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7Cross Bearing (Even): Defensa
- C3.7.Br: 19 OS (95% Win Rate)
- C3.7C.Br: 1 OS (5% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Atomic (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7Cross Atomic (Even): Defensa
- C3.7.At: 15 OS (75% Win Rate)
- C3.7C.At: 5 OS (25% Win Rate)
Jul. 20, 2018  7:26 PM
 
Can you do C3 7Br vs SrS3 7c At?
Jul. 20, 2018  7:32 PM
 
(Jul. 20, 2018  7:26 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Can you do C3 7Br vs SrS3 7c At?
Sure, do you want me to test SRS3 in both Left and Right Spin or just one of them?
Jul. 20, 2018  8:54 PM
 
(Jul. 20, 2018  7:32 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:
(Jul. 20, 2018  7:26 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Can you do C3 7Br vs SrS3 7c At?
Sure, do you want me to test SRS3 in both Left and Right Spin or just one of them?

10 with right and ten with left
Jul. 20, 2018  9:57 PM
 
(Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Atomic (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7Cross Atomic (Even): Defensa
- LS3.7M.At: 11 Burst (55% Win Rate)
- C3.7C.At: 9 OS (45% Win Rate)

Xcalius X3 7Meteor Atomic (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7Cross Atomic (Even): Defensa
- X3.7M.At: 9 Burst (45% Win Rate)
- C3.7C.At: 11 OS (55% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Cross Atomic (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7Cross Atomic (Even): Defensa
- F3.7C.At: 4 OS, 3 Burst, 2 KO (45% Win Rate)
- C3.7C.At: 5 OS, 5 KO, 1 Burst (55% Win Rate)

Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7Cross Atomic (Even): Defensa
- G3.7C.At: 7 OS, 3 Burst (50% Win Rate)
- C3.7C.At: 10 OS (50% Win Rate)
Jul. 21, 2018  12:17 AM
 
It's so easy to burst with an attack type but it's amazing at out lasting other stam and defense types.

One of my fav layers for sure.
Jul. 21, 2018  12:24 AM
 
dC 7 Br moderated first
stock nL second hard
Jul. 21, 2018  12:35 AM
 
(Jul. 21, 2018  12:24 AM)ayggdrasilgy Wrote: dC 7 Br moderated first
stock nL second hard
Do you mean the Hasbro ones? I don't have any TT Burst Beys. And, I guess your test would look something like this: (Caynox) C3 7Br (First Moderate) vs L3 Ds (Second).
Jul. 21, 2018  4:47 AM
 
(Jul. 21, 2018  12:35 AM)kjrules17 Wrote:
(Jul. 21, 2018  12:24 AM)ayggdrasilgy Wrote: dC 7 Br moderated first
stock nL second hard
Do you mean the Hasbro ones? I don't have any TT Burst Beys. And, I guess your test would look something like this: (Caynox) C3 7Br (First Moderate) vs L3 Ds (Second).

Yes hasbro 
I’m sorry I’m used to use the TT abbreviations
Jul. 21, 2018  6:55 AM
 
(Jul. 20, 2018  6:59 PM)kjrules17 Wrote: @[Defensa]

(Caynox) C3 7Br (Odd) vs (Caynox) C3 7CBr (Even): Defensa
- C3 7Br: 19 SFs (95% Win Rate)
- C3 7CBr: 1 SF (5% Win Rate)

(Caynox) C3 7At (Odd) vs (Caynox) C3 7CAt (Even): Defensa
- C3 7At: 15 SFs (75% Win Rate)
- C3 7CAt: 5 SFs (25% Win Rate)
A little detail on these two pls how close were the outspins?
Jul. 21, 2018  2:19 PM
 
(Jul. 21, 2018  6:55 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote: A little detail on these two pls how close were the outspins?
Both tests were pretty close ngl. It's just that in most battles where I actually got a result, Caynox C3 w/o a Frame would have a little more spin at the end while Caynox C3 w/ a Frame wouldn't. There were also numerous ties in both tests as well.
Jul. 29, 2018  3:27 PM
 
(Jun. 24, 2018  1:10 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:
(Jun. 24, 2018  1:08 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote: no one is saying weak launch against everyone

we were talking about burst resistance

now you are talking about stamina
yes you might need to launch a bit harder given the opponent 
it’s a trade off that needs to be optimized

this is your decision as a non-stupid blader
lol

That is basically the issue c3 bursts against anything if u launch it with a bit more strength than a soft launch

look which bey was used to win the last hasbro qualifier...


considering hasbro is six months behind TT, this hasbro-only result is consistent with WBO tournament bey selections 6 months ago.

looks like caynox is a competitive bey (at least amongst hasbro) if you know how to use it
Jul. 29, 2018  3:42 PM
 
Cool to know. From what I've tried c3 is super easy to burst with any decent attack combo, but if it doesn't get busted it almost always outspins.

It could be due to the round symmetrical shape, or maybe the gimmick actually works and it absorbs some of the momentum. Still glad to hear it can be used competitively.
Jul. 29, 2018  4:47 PM
 
(Jul. 29, 2018  3:27 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote: look which bey was used to win the last hasbro qualifier...


considering hasbro is six months behind TT, this hasbro-only result is consistent with WBO tournament bey selections 6 months ago.

looks like caynox is a competitive bey (at least amongst hasbro) if you know how to use it

Idk what conclusions u r trying to make or what u want to prove from a clip of a bunch of inexperienced kids playing beyblades in hasbro stadium but fyi i would like to inform caynox c3 is barely competitive. IIt only works with bearing which has a tight enough spring to compensate for its burst resistance. It cant be used on atomic or orbit. Tho it can be used with destroy if u stall it right but that combo is still being tested plus if u check the previous tests a2 and y still give caynox c3 competition
Jul. 29, 2018  8:07 PM
 
(Jul. 29, 2018  4:47 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:
(Jul. 29, 2018  3:27 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote: look which bey was used to win the last hasbro qualifier...



considering hasbro is six months behind TT, this hasbro-only result is consistent with WBO tournament bey selections 6 months ago.

looks like caynox is a competitive bey (at least amongst hasbro) if you know how to use it

Idk what conclusions u r trying to make or what u want to prove from a clip of a bunch of inexperienced kids playing beyblades in hasbro stadium but fyi i would like to inform caynox c3 is barely competitive. IIt only works with bearing which has a tight enough spring to compensate for its burst resistance. It cant be used on atomic or orbit. Tho it can be used with destroy if u stall it right but that combo is still being tested plus if u check the previous tests a2 and y still give caynox c3 competition

those kids placed 1st and 2nd in a hasbro-only tournament using caynox combos. now for WBO tournaments, hasbro has exactly zero competitive offerings, only because of the current “turbo lag” (that will change in time, of course)

but for those who play at home seriously against hasbro-only opponents, caynox is a completely legit threat for those who know when and how to use it.  and if you doubt that, keep practicing :)
Jul. 29, 2018  8:22 PM
 
For me caynox c3 is more like a benchmark to see if an attack combo is good enough to actually do damage.
Jul. 29, 2018  8:57 PM
 
(Jul. 29, 2018  8:07 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote: those kids placed 1st and 2nd in a hasbro-only tournament using caynox combos. now for WBO tournaments, hasbro has exactly zero competitive offerings, only because of the current “turbo lag” (that will change in time, of course)

but for those who play at home seriously against hasbro-only opponents, caynox is a completely legit threat for those who know when and how to use it.  and if you doubt that, keep practicing :)

Those kids placed 11st and 2nd  by beating other kids who were probably inexperienced too.  Also they used hasbro stadium. In wbo tournaments  tt stadiums are used. The difference in performance of parts in both stadiums is immense. Attack is very weak in hasbro stadiums. So i wouldn't be suprised if people overlooked caynox c3 for a2,y and maybe even j2 in a wbo hasbro only tournament as they seem a bit more safe but with that being said a tight fitting  caynox c3 combo can be better. So in short caynox c3 is surely one of the  top  stamina layers in hasbro only format but does  not completely outclasses the previous layers. Plus its universally known hasbro is behind tt in terms of releases that is the reason why hasbro only tournaments must be done so that hasbro meta can be known better
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