[Hasbro]  A Miscellaneous Testing Thread

(Aug. 06, 2018  6:53 AM)Shindog Wrote: First of all, thank you for doing all this work!

Secondly, if I am reading the results correctly.  This is saying that Hasbro bearing beats hasbro atomic in same and opposite spin?  This would be different than TT right?  Most recent example would be hS on At tends to out spin hS on Br.  Can someone explain this? Or am I just reading this all wrong?
No problem. And yeah, pretty much, Hasbro Br has a higher chance of beating Hasbro At in Same and Opposite Spin, but of course, it depends on the matchup. From what Wombat told me, TT Br beats TT At in Opposite Spin, but TT At beats TT Br in Same Spin. So that example you said, that falls into what Wombat said.
(Aug. 06, 2018  6:53 AM)Shindog Wrote:
(Aug. 06, 2018  5:49 AM)kjrules17 Wrote: Got some more Hasbro Bearing tests done.

Fafnir F3 7Cross Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Cross Bearing (Even): Defensa
- F3.7C.At: 1 SF (5% Win Rate)
- F3.7C.Br: 19 SFs (95% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Cross Atomic (Odd) vs. Garuda G3 7Cross Bearing (Even): Defensa
- F3.7C.At: 2 SOs (10% Win Rate)
- G3.7C.Br: 18 SFs (90% Win Rate)

Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Cross Bearing (Even): Defensa
- G3.7C.At: 3 SFs, 1 SO (20% Win Rate)
- F3.7C.Br: 9 SFs, 6 BFs, 1 SO (80% Win Rate)

Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (Odd) vs. Garuda G3 7Cross Bearing (Even): Defensa
- G3.7C.At: 9 SFs (45% Win Rate)
- G3.7C.Br: 11 SFs (55% Win Rate)
First of all, thank you for doing all this work!

Secondly, if I am reading the results correctly.  This is saying that Hasbro bearing beats hasbro atomic in same and opposite spin?  This would be different than TT right?  Most recent example would be hS on At tends to out spin hS on Br.  Can someone explain this? Or am I just reading this all wrong?
Apparently the bearing beats atomic in same spin rule applies strongly to fafnir only.  While doing mirror Br vs At matchups on different layers its safe to say that both are pretty even.
Does this not make Hasbro bearing kinda insane? Best stamina in same or opposite spin, or at least tied for best stamina. Relatively hard to burst too. Does it make ice cream in the summer and hot cocoa in the winter?
Can you try drain fafnir 7meteor trans and SIEG Xcalibur 7meteor ultimate reboot
(Aug. 10, 2018  5:30 PM)Ntruder19 Wrote: Can you try drain fafnir 7meteor trans and SIEG Xcalibur 7meteor ultimate reboot
This is a Hasbro Testing Thread, I only have Hasbro Burst Parts as well. Sorry.
(Aug. 10, 2018  6:20 PM)kjrules17 Wrote:
(Aug. 10, 2018  5:30 PM)Ntruder19 Wrote: Can you try drain fafnir 7meteor trans and SIEG Xcalibur 7meteor ultimate reboot
This is a Hasbro Testing Thread, I only have Hasbro Burst Parts as well. Sorry.
Sorry, forgot Hasbro doesn’t make ultimate reboot. I know for a fact however that drain fafnir 7m trans is possible, because I own that exact combo(all hasbro).
I only have one other burst Beyblade however, and want to know how good it is.
(Aug. 10, 2018  6:25 PM)Ntruder19 Wrote:
(Aug. 10, 2018  6:20 PM)kjrules17 Wrote: This is a Hasbro Testing Thread, I only have Hasbro Burst Parts as well. Sorry.
Sorry, forgot Hasbro doesn’t make ultimate reboot. I know for a fact however that drain fafnir 7m trans is possible, because I own that exact combo(all hasbro).
I only have one other burst Beyblade however, and want to know how good it is.
Fafnir F3 7Meteor Trans is possible, but let me know what combo you want me to put it up against. Thanks.
(Aug. 10, 2018  6:25 PM)Ntruder19 Wrote: Sorry, forgot Hasbro doesn’t make ultimate reboot. I know for a fact however that drain fafnir 7m trans is possible, because I own that exact combo(all hasbro).
I only have one other burst Beyblade however, and want to know how good it is.

It wont be a good combo. Trans doesn't have enough presscision to allow f3 to outspin stuff in Addition to that meteor would further kill LAD. U are better off using noctemis n3,x3 or ls3 on that setup. Also if u wanna know if a combo is good or not check the hasbro competitive combo list if that particular combo isnt their then its either not good or hasn't been tested yet
I wanted that combo to be tested because it’s the best combo I have right now

Any beys are fine to battle it against
(Aug. 11, 2018  2:11 PM)Ntruder19 Wrote: I wanted that combo to be tested because it’s the best combo I have right now

Any beys are fine to battle it against

That doesn't need testing this combo isnt good u should look for combos in the competitive list or buy more stuff
Well I’m sorry, jeez it’s not my fault it’s all I have right now
Here are some Destroy tests I did today.

(Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Atomic (First) vs. Fafnir F3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- LS3.7M.At: 4 Burst, 2 KO (30% Win Rate)
- F3.7C.Ds: 9 OS, 5 KO (70% Win Rate)

Xcalius X3 7Meteor Atomic (First) vs. Fafnir F3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- X3.7M.At: 1 Burst, 1 KO (10% Win Rate)
- F3.7C.Ds: 15 OS, 3 KO (90% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. Fafnir F3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- F3.7C.At: 1 OS, 1 KO (10% Win Rate)
- F3.7C.Ds: 12 OS, 6 KO (90% Win Rate)

Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. Fafnir F3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- G3.7C.At: 19 OS (95% Win Rate)
- F3.7C.Ds: 1 Burst (5% Win Rate)

Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. Fafnir F3 Polish Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat
- G3.7C.At: 17 OS (85% Win Rate)
- F3.P.Ds: 2 KO, 1 Burst (15% Win Rate)
Got some Destroy tests done, with some more on the way. Also, from here on out, whenever I post test results, I'll also put the results for each battle in a spoiler.

(Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Atomic (First) vs. (Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- LS3.7M.At: 6 OS, 1 Burst (35% Win Rate)
- LS3.7M.Ds: 6 Burst, 4 OS, 3 KO (65% Win Rate)

Xcalius X3 7Meteor Atomic (First) vs. (Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- X3.7M.At: 7 OS, 1 Burst (40% Win Rate)
- LS3.7M.Ds: 7 Burst, 3 KO, 2 OS (60% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. (Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- F3.7C.At: 7 OS, 3 KO (50% Win Rate)
- LS3.7M.Ds: 5 KO, 4 Burst, 1 OS (50% Win Rate)

Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. (Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- G3.7C.At: 19 OS (95% Win Rate)
- LS3.7M.Ds: 1 KO (5% Win Rate)
Got some Hasbro Destroy-based tests for y'all. That might be it for now for these, as I think my buddy, Defensa, wanted me to test Hasbro Tower next.

(Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Atomic (First) vs. Xcalius X3 7Meteor Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- LS3.7M.At: 5 OS, 3 Burst, 2 KO (50% Win Rate)
- X3.7M.Ds: 5 OS, 3 KO, 2 Burst (50% Win Rate)

Xcalius X3 7Meteor Atomic (First) vs. Xcalius X3 7Meteor Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- X3.7M.At: 3 OS, 1 KO (20% Win Rate)
- X3.7M.Ds: 9 Burst, 4 KO, 3 OS (80% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. Xcalius X3 7Meteor Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- F3.7C.At: 4 OS, 3 KO, 1 Burst (40% Win Rate)
- X3.7M.Ds: 6 Burst, 5 KO, 1 OS (60% Win Rate)

Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. Xcalius X3 7Meteor Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- G3.7C.At: 16 OS (80% Win Rate)
- X3.7M.Ds: 2 Burst, 2 KO (20% Win Rate)

Got most of the Hasbro Tower tests done, but the others will be posted some time soon.

(Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Cross Tower (Even): Defensa
- LS3.7M.At: 12 OS, 3 Burst, 2 KO (85% Win Rate)
- F3.7C.Tw: 3 KO (15% Win Rate)

Xcalius X3 7Meteor Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Cross Tower (Even): Defensa
- X3.7M.At: 6 OS, 5 Burst, 3 KO (70% Win Rate)
- F3.7C.Tw: 6 KO (30% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Cross Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Cross Tower (Even): Defensa
- F3.7C.At: 15 OS, 1 Burst (80% Win Rate)
- F3.7C.Tw: 3 OS, 1 KO (20% Win Rate)

Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (Odd) vs. Fafnir F3 7Cross Tower (Even): Defensa
- G3.7C.At: 13 OS, 1 KO (70% Win Rate)
- F3.7C.Tw: 5 Burst, 1 KO (30% Win Rate)
Got some more Hasbro Destroy-based tests done, these are to compare performance between using Meteor and Destroy vs using Cross and Destroy.

(Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Atomic (First) vs. (Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- LS3.7M.At: 8 OS, 2 Burst (50% Win Rate)
- LS3.7C.Ds: 5 OS, 4 Burst, 1 KO (50% Win Rate)

Xcalius X3 7Meteor Atomic (First) vs. (Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- X3.7M.At: 6 OS, 3 KO, 1 Burst (50% Win Rate)
- LS3.7C.Ds: 5 Burst, 3 KO, 2 OS (50% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. (Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- F3.7C.At: 4 KO, 3 OS (35% Win Rate)
- LS3.7C.Ds: 8 KO, 3 OS, 2 Burst (65% Win Rate)

Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. (Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- G3.7C.At: 18 OS (90% Win Rate)
- LS3.7C.Ds: 2 KO (10% Win Rate)

Here are the other new Hasbro Destroy-based tests I got that were to compare Meteor and Destroy vs Cross and Destroy.

(Right Spin) Legend Spryzen S3 7Meteor Atomic (First) vs. Xcalius X3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- LS3.7M.At: 3 OS, 1 Burst (20% Win Rate)
- X3.7C.Ds: 6 Burst, 5 OS, 5 KO (80% Win Rate)

Xcalius X3 7Meteor Atomic (First) vs. Xcalius X3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- X3.7M.At: 6 OS, 3 Burst, 1 KO (50% Win Rate)
- X3.7C.Ds: 7 Burst, 2 OS, 1 KO (50% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. Xcalius X3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- F3.7C.At: 6 OS, 5 KO (55% Win Rate)
- X3.7C.Ds: 7 KO, 1 Burst, 1 OS (45% Win Rate)

Garuda G3 7Cross Atomic (First) vs. Xcalius X3 7Cross Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Defensa
- G3.7C.At: 16 OS (80% Win Rate)
- X3.7C.Ds: 3 Burst, 1 KO (20% Win Rate)
Got some Caynox tests here as well as a test for (Hasbro Exclusive) Istros I2.

Caynox 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Stamina Mode) Cognite C3 0Cross Atomic (Even): Rebel Blader
- C.7.Br: 9 Burst, 4 OS, 1 KO (70% Win Rate)
- C3.0C.At: 6 OS (30% Win Rate)

Caynox 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Attack Mode) Cognite C3 0Cross Atomic (Even): Rebel Blader
- C.7.Br: 11 Burst, 9 OS (100% Win Rate)
- C3.0C.At: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)

(Hasbro Exclusive) Istros I2 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Jormuntor J2 0Cross Atomic (Even): Rebel Blader
- (HE) I2.7.Br: 5 Burst, 1 OS, 1 KO (35% Win Rate)
- J2.0C.At: 11 OS, 2 Burst (65% Win Rate)
Got some more tests done regarding Yard-S.

Unicrest 7Cross Orbit (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.O: 4 OS (40% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Yr-S: 6 OS (60% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Revolve (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.R: 6 OS (60% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Yr-S: 4 OS (40% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Bearing (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.Br: 6 OS (60% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Yr-S: 4 OS (40% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Destroy (Odd Sliding Shoot) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.Ds: 7 OS, 1 Burst (80% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Yr-S: 2 OS (20% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.Xt-S: 3 OS (30% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Yr-S: 6 OS, 1 Burst (70% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Press (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Bladekid
- U.7C.P: 6 OS (60% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Yr-S: 4 OS (40% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Weight (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Yard-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.W: 6 OS (60% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Yr-S: 4 OS (40% Win Rate)
Got some Xtend-S tests here.

Unicrest 7Cross Orbit (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.O: 8 OS (80% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Xt-S: 2 OS (20% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Atomic (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.At: 5 OS (50% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Xt-S: 5 OS (50% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Revolve (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.R: 4 OS (40% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Xt-S: 4 OS, 2 Burst (60% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Bearing (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.Br: 6 OS, 1 Burst (70% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Xt-S: 3 OS (30% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Destroy (Odd Sliding Shoot) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.Ds: 6 OS, 1 Burst (70% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Xt-S: 3 OS (30% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Press (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.P: 5 OS, 1 Burst (60% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Xt-S: 4 OS (40% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Weight (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.W: 6 OS (60% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Xt-S: 4 OS (40% Win Rate)

Unicrest 7Cross Survive (Odd) vs. Unicrest 7Cross Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode) (Even): Wombat
- U.7C.S: 6 OS (60% Win Rate)
- U.7C.Xt-S: 4 OS (40% Win Rate)
Just finished some more tests for Yard-S, this time it's Opposite Spin matchups.


Two things to take note here.
1. While Yard-S does have a free-spinning ball like Atomic and Orbit, it's smaller than both of theirs, which is probably why it lost. The height difference between Yard-S (it's a little taller than your average Performance Tip) and regular Performance Tips like Atomic and Orbit might have also played a role as well, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
2. Somehow Xtend-S, a Performance Tip with no free-spinning parts, was able to OS Yard-S in Opposite Spin, which is pretty crazy. I'll also be doing these same tests, but with Xtend-S being the focus instead of Yard-S, so I'm curious how it'll fare in Opposite Spin against Orbit, Atomic, Revolve, Bearing, and Destroy.

Here are some more tests for Xtend-S, but it's Opposite Spin matchups.


Also, just like Yard-S, Xtend-S is a little taller than most Performance Tips, maybe that affects performance. Either way, these results are pretty crazy. A Performance Tip with no free-spinning parts was second to only Bearing in these tests, beating out Orbit, Atomic, Revolve, and Destroy. Wow.
I did some more Same Spin tests with Yard-S.


Combined with the earlier Same Spin testing I did with Yard-S, I made an l-word aka list to show what Yard-S wins, loses, and draws against in Same Spin. I also made it so you could see it with or without percentages. The percentage shown is the likelihood of Yard-S winning that matchup.

Same Spin Yard-S Matchups
Beats (With Percentages) (Click to View)
Beats (Without Percentages) (Click to View)
Loses To (With Percentages) (Click to View)
Loses To (Without Percentages) (Click to View)
Draws Against (With Percentages) (Click to View)
Draws Against (Without Percentages) (Click to View)

I'll be pitting Yard-S against these other Performance Tips in Opposite Spin soon as well.

I had done some Burst Classic Format related testing not too long ago to see which format-legal Layers could beat Forneus F4 in a Gravity Orbit mirror match. If you don't remember, the Layers that beat Forneus F4 were Dranzer Flame, Driger Slash, Kerbeus, Unicrest, Yegdrion, Doomscizor D2, Wyvron W2, Yegdrion Y2, and both modes of Cognite C3. Cognite C3 actually just got banned from Burst Classic Format tournaments, but since I've done tests with it before the ban occurred, might as well post them anyway, you know? 

For these tests, I just had every Layer face all of the others in a Gravity Orbit mirror match. And don't worry, I definitely didn't do all of these tests at once. I started doing these tests a few weeks back, working on it whenever I got the chance. I finished the last few yesterday on the 27th.

Here are my results.


Now, to find out where each Layer ranked, I gave each Layer a +1 whenever it had a win rate greater than 50% against another Layer, a -1 whenever it had a win rate less than 50% against another Layer, and 0 when both of the Layers' win rates were 50%.

Here are the rankings.


Now, I'll talk about each Layer. The percentage shown is the likelihood of that Layer winning in that matchup. And their record is organized as Wins-Losses-Draws.

Layer Discussions (Click to View)

Next up, I'm going to say which Layer or Layers is the best to use against each Layer.

Best Layer Matchups (Click to View)

The next tests will show how all of these Layers fare against Attack, so stay tuned.
Here's the testing to show how all 9 Layers that beat Forneus F4 do against Attack. I used Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr (sliding shot and tornado stalled) and Valtryek V2 Knuckle Jolt-S. I also used Roktavor Heavy Survive for Wombat to try and check the Burst Resistance of all 9 Layers.


Now, I'll rank how all 9 Layers performed against their opponents.


I'm also going to list how many times each Layer burst against Roktavor from least to greatest.

How Many Times Each Layer Burst Against Roktavor From Least To Greatest (Click to View)

The next testing I'm doing should be how all 9 Layers perform in Opposite Spin, so stay tuned.
Here's the testing to show how all 9 Layers that beat Forneus F4 perform in Opposite Spin. For the Opposite Spin combo, I used Dragoon Fighter Polish Xtend-S (Battle Ring Mode). All 9 Layers were put on Yell Revolve to compare performance to past testing involving Kerbeus on Yell Revolve against the same Dragoon Fighter combo.

Benchmark (Click to View)


Next up are the Rankings.


The last bit of testing I'm gonna do with these Layers is put them on Zephyr against Yegdrion Heavy Yard-S and compare performance to Spryzen S2 Gravity Zephyr.
Could you do Guardian Kerbeus K4 7C Br vs B3 7C Br, just to see which is better in opposite spin.
(Apr. 04, 2019  10:11 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: Could you do Guardian Kerbeus K4 7C Br vs B3 7C Br, just to see which is better in opposite spin.
I don't have Kerbeus K4 yet, sorry. Bladekid does though.
bladekid, could you test the matchup for me please?