Please note: I was only able to obtain these results after practicing with giga flat for a couple of hours and learning the exact launch strength it took for it to behave in certain ways. DO NOT expect to get the same results your first few tries with this combo.
Standard Procedure was used.
The Concept: A spin equalizer that has the chance to KO the stuff it can't OS.
Part Selection:
Genbull: I really wish a more aggressive chrome wheel worked, but nothing else offers the balance that genbull does which this combo needs to OS.
Dragooon: Only left-spinning chrome wheel.
LW105: 85/90 are too low to make contact with most things, CH120 is too far from the ground to offer the precession needed to OS. Although, against taller (195 and above) things that lack LAD/precession CH120 may be a better choice because these things are a stretch for LW105 to reach. Why over 105/W105? More balance with its three-sided wings.
GF: Probably the biggest question... due to its incredibly large surface area on low heights GF simply does not topple. At the end of the battle, instead of resting on its side the bey will remain upright. This offers the absolute greatest amount of precession possible as no spin velocity is lost due to hitting the stadium. It uses every ounce available to spin, none to fall over.
The Launch: There are four launches you will need to get very comfortable with using in order to be successful with this combo.
Extreme weak launch: GF cannot roam. It needs to settle spinning in the middle of the stadium.
Why it works: This allows the bey to make almost constant contact with its opponent.
Weak Stall: The bey needs to circle the ridge, but drop away from it very quickly.
Half Stall: Depending on how level you can hold your launcher you may be able to bring this up to a 3/4 stall. This launch is necessary to OS RDF based customs.
Weak Sliding Shoot: As it says, use against attack types.
NEVER FULL LAUNCH WITH THIS CUSTOM. YOU HAVE AN 80% CHANCE OF SELF KO-ING (34/40 times in testing)
vs. Duo Hades SA165EWD (Extreme Weak Launch)
80% (13 OS, 3 KO)
vs. Phantom Hades 85MF (Half Stall)
70% (11 KO, 3 OS)
Interestingly enough, when both beys stayed in, Phantom actually had more OS (4) since Dragooon had so little stamina with which to spin steal at the end of the battle.
vs. Zirago Genbull E230MB (Half Stall)
65% (13 OS)
The reason you have to stall against this is so that Dragooon comes at it from above. The extreme weak launch allowed dragooon to get pushed under the disk in previous testing. Also, the only times Dragooon lost in this set of tests were when it did get pushed under the disk into the ground (why isn't there a 110 height track?)
vs. Phantom Hades TH170TB (Extreme Weak Launch)
95% (15 OS, 4 KO)
vs. Phantom Hades TH220TB (Extreme Weak Launch)
55% (5 OS, 6 KO)
Against the taller TH height there just wasn't enough stuff for it to make the constant contact with that it needs to OS stamina types)
vs. Duo Cancer B
(Extreme Weak Launch)
55% (10 OS, 1 KO, 11 ties redone)
Other than the one KO this was extremely close every, single time.
vs. Genbull Dragooon SA165EWD (Weak Sliding Shoot)
35% (1 OS, 6 KO)
This thing was just too heavy for it to consistently KO. The one OS happened when it landed a barrage of hits right at the beginning and managed to destabilize SA165EWD.
vs. Balro Balro T125 RF (Weak Sliding Shoot)
65% (8 OS, 5 KO)
WAIT!?! WHAT?!? Balro simply couldn't keep up with it/find it to knock it out.
vs. Wyvang Dragooon BD145 RDF (Half/Three-Quarter Stall)
85% (17 OS)
This would probably be much closer with Genbull as the bottom wheel, but in this match pushing the border towards self-ko allows GF to OS this no problem.
vs. Flash Orion CH120R2F
80% (10 OS, 6 KO)
Not really sure what happened here, but Flash couldn't really seem to find much success.
Standard Procedure was used.
The Concept: A spin equalizer that has the chance to KO the stuff it can't OS.
Part Selection:
Genbull: I really wish a more aggressive chrome wheel worked, but nothing else offers the balance that genbull does which this combo needs to OS.
Dragooon: Only left-spinning chrome wheel.
LW105: 85/90 are too low to make contact with most things, CH120 is too far from the ground to offer the precession needed to OS. Although, against taller (195 and above) things that lack LAD/precession CH120 may be a better choice because these things are a stretch for LW105 to reach. Why over 105/W105? More balance with its three-sided wings.
GF: Probably the biggest question... due to its incredibly large surface area on low heights GF simply does not topple. At the end of the battle, instead of resting on its side the bey will remain upright. This offers the absolute greatest amount of precession possible as no spin velocity is lost due to hitting the stadium. It uses every ounce available to spin, none to fall over.
The Launch: There are four launches you will need to get very comfortable with using in order to be successful with this combo.
Extreme weak launch: GF cannot roam. It needs to settle spinning in the middle of the stadium.
Why it works: This allows the bey to make almost constant contact with its opponent.
Weak Stall: The bey needs to circle the ridge, but drop away from it very quickly.
Half Stall: Depending on how level you can hold your launcher you may be able to bring this up to a 3/4 stall. This launch is necessary to OS RDF based customs.
Weak Sliding Shoot: As it says, use against attack types.
NEVER FULL LAUNCH WITH THIS CUSTOM. YOU HAVE AN 80% CHANCE OF SELF KO-ING (34/40 times in testing)
vs. Duo Hades SA165EWD (Extreme Weak Launch)
80% (13 OS, 3 KO)
vs. Phantom Hades 85MF (Half Stall)
70% (11 KO, 3 OS)
Interestingly enough, when both beys stayed in, Phantom actually had more OS (4) since Dragooon had so little stamina with which to spin steal at the end of the battle.
vs. Zirago Genbull E230MB (Half Stall)
65% (13 OS)
The reason you have to stall against this is so that Dragooon comes at it from above. The extreme weak launch allowed dragooon to get pushed under the disk in previous testing. Also, the only times Dragooon lost in this set of tests were when it did get pushed under the disk into the ground (why isn't there a 110 height track?)
vs. Phantom Hades TH170TB (Extreme Weak Launch)
95% (15 OS, 4 KO)
vs. Phantom Hades TH220TB (Extreme Weak Launch)
55% (5 OS, 6 KO)
Against the taller TH height there just wasn't enough stuff for it to make the constant contact with that it needs to OS stamina types)
vs. Duo Cancer B
(Extreme Weak Launch)55% (10 OS, 1 KO, 11 ties redone)
Other than the one KO this was extremely close every, single time.
vs. Genbull Dragooon SA165EWD (Weak Sliding Shoot)
35% (1 OS, 6 KO)
This thing was just too heavy for it to consistently KO. The one OS happened when it landed a barrage of hits right at the beginning and managed to destabilize SA165EWD.
vs. Balro Balro T125 RF (Weak Sliding Shoot)
65% (8 OS, 5 KO)
WAIT!?! WHAT?!? Balro simply couldn't keep up with it/find it to knock it out.
vs. Wyvang Dragooon BD145 RDF (Half/Three-Quarter Stall)
85% (17 OS)
This would probably be much closer with Genbull as the bottom wheel, but in this match pushing the border towards self-ko allows GF to OS this no problem.
vs. Flash Orion CH120R2F
80% (10 OS, 6 KO)
Not really sure what happened here, but Flash couldn't really seem to find much success.
Duo SA165EWD OS Examples
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ktaxhg95pfhuf9...7%20PM.mov
Https://www.dropbox.com/s/01w8muowmbmx7l...3%20PM.mov
Benchmark
Duo Hades SA165EWD
vs. GD BD145GF
BD145 win%: 25% (5 KO, O OS)
vs. GD SA165 (Regular Mode)GF
SA165 win%: 30% (4 KO, 2 OS)
Note: OS only occurred when my ewd got knocked off balance into scraping
Vs. GD SA165 (ZGA Mode)GF
SA165 Win%: 25% (5 KO, 0 OS)
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