Format Proposal: Beyblade X Limited (BXL)

From the experience of hosting BX Limited with the banlist proposed by LazerBeamz for his version of the format, which bans all UX beys, TyrannoBeat, Cobalt Dragoon, and PhoenixWing. The format seems to be decently healthy, in which people who have given some criticism on it often pointed out that Whale Wave, Shark Edge, and Roar Tyranno would steamroll the format. However, with my recent experiences at the event, I don't feel that is the case at all.

Here are the winning combos from the event: https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Winning...pid1883704

The only common beys seen in more than 2 decks were HellsScythe and Whale Wave. I personally don't believe Whale Wave and Roar Tyranno should be banned if BX Limited becomes official as both blades have very exploitable weaknesses that honestly keeps them in check.

Whale Wave's overall design, while it provides excellent smash/upper attack that would make it an S+ Tier threat, it's design leaves it with a gap that makes it prone to being burst finished through ratchet sniping, it also has the same recoil control issues as DranBuster where it can knock itself out with the force of its own attacks, and if it doesn't knock out the opposing bey immediately, it almost always loses by outspin.

Roar Tyranno's PW esque design should technically make it the "best" blade in the format despite it only being 2 grams lighter than PW. However, its overall smoother shape doesn't give it the same over the top smash attack PW is usually known for which makes a bit better for stationary attack/defense combos on Hexa and High Needle, but isn't going to be always winning the AvA matchup. It also at least from my personal experience that is has less stamina than PW in which it will usually get OS'd if it doesn't hit the opposing bey hard enough for a knockout, burst, or possible OS.

The only blade I would recommend banning from this version of BX Limited is Cobalt Drake as its more safe four sided design allows it to become more of jack of all trades that while it may not possess the same overwhelming strengths that Whale Wave and Roar Tyranno provide, it has more stamina than them by a decent margin so it should usually be able to win most battles which are only limited by the combo its being used on.

For anyone that has their version of how BX Limited should be, please show me the banlist as I may continue to experiment with the format when I am able to. I mostly prefer LazerBeamz's banlist as its pretty easy to remember and it draws a very established line about how the format should be especially when it comes to first time players trying to play the format.
(Mar. 09, 2025  6:31 PM)Mr. Memes Wrote: From the experience of hosting BX Limited with the banlist proposed by LazerBeamz for his version of the format, which bans all UX beys, TyrannoBeat, Cobalt Dragoon, and PhoenixWing.  The format seems to be decently healthy, in which people who have given some criticism on it often pointed out that Whale Wave, Shark Edge, and Roar Tyranno would steamroll the format.  However, with my recent experiences at the event, I don't feel that is the case at all.

Here are the winning combos from the event: https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Winning...pid1883704

The only common beys seen in more than 2 decks were HellsScythe and Whale Wave.  I personally don't believe Whale Wave and Roar Tyranno should be banned if BX Limited becomes official as both blades have very exploitable weaknesses that honestly keeps them in check.  

Whale Wave's overall design, while it provides excellent smash/upper attack that would make it an S+ Tier threat,  it's design leaves it with a gap that makes it prone to being burst finished through ratchet sniping, it also has the same recoil control issues as DranBuster where it can knock itself out with the force of its own attacks, and if it doesn't knock out the opposing bey immediately, it almost always loses by outspin.

Roar Tyranno's PW esque design should technically make it the "best" blade in the format despite it only being 2 grams lighter than PW.  However, its overall smoother shape doesn't give it the same over the top smash attack PW is usually known for which makes a bit better for stationary attack/defense combos on Hexa and High Needle, but isn't going to be always winning the AvA matchup.  It also at least from my personal experience that is has less stamina than PW in which it will usually get OS'd if it doesn't hit the opposing bey hard enough for a knockout, burst, or possible OS.  

The only blade I would recommend banning from this version of BX Limited is Cobalt Drake as its more safe four sided design allows it to become more of jack of all trades that while it may not possess the same overwhelming strengths that Whale Wave and Roar Tyranno provide, it has more stamina than them by a decent margin so it should usually be able to win most battles which are only limited by the combo its being used on.

For anyone that has their version of how BX Limited should be, please show me the banlist as I may continue to experiment with the format when I am able to.  I mostly prefer LazerBeamz's banlist as its pretty easy to remember and it draws a very established line about how the format should be especially when it comes to first time players trying to play the format.
Thank you for your genuinely thoughtful and educated feedback on BXL. This info is super cool to hear and we'll definitely revisit this varation in my area. There's a lot of love for both Beat and Wave up here, so it'll be interesting to see how those fit in with the way we play.

One thing I'd recommend to your area's variation is legalizing Crest and Rudder as they fit in quite nicely with the rest of the available list.
KIOs list is a great place to start!
Thought I'd leave some thoughts regarding ranked, since that's the goal.

I don't personally think BXL rankings should be the same as the standard BX rankings.

Imo it feels weird for Bladers to bet rankings earned in BX standard in a different format, and vice versa. I know there are other folks who agree there should be separate rankings, for the same or other reasons.
(Mar. 15, 2025  1:36 AM)KIO Wrote: Thought I'd leave some thoughts regarding ranked, since that's the goal.

I don't personally think BXL rankings should be the same as the standard BX rankings.

Imo it feels weird for Bladers to bet rankings earned in BX standard in a different format, and vice versa. I know there are other folks who agree there should be separate rankings, for the same or other reasons.

Every format needs their own rankings eventually. An overall generation one is nice for fun, I suppose.

I think there's some level of expectation that without a complex system of filters, it should be ok to have the same ranking pool with certain optional rulesets.

As ban lists change and get revised throughout a formats life, even after support is cut off with new produ inct releases, so you already have to deal with that into the rankings pool inherently.

There may even be some valid arguments to be made that the standard formats rankings throughout the products life span should be a *separate* ranking from the final roster being played after the line has ended.

I do think that with some valid concerns about the formats lifespan, if new ranking systems coded by the WBO are too hard to maintain or make new for different formats, there's some merit to X Limited not being ranked for a while to see if it pans out as a viable long-term option.
Report from yesterday playing proper in my first X Limited event. https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Breakin...ck--116164

I ran Primal, Dagger, Lightning E, Shelter.

Ran 1 round of Crest and Rock as well.

Shelter is still pretty bad honestly. It did not do very well. Honestly just too light to be consistent. Really hoping it gets a second life with Gill Shark.

All 3 SharkEdges did terribly. I don't think Primal won a single match from me. I was using 7-70LF and I usually run this in standard and it does very well. Later rounds I went to 3-60 and it didn't do any better. I think it wants to hit heavier things mostly.
Other SharkEdge and BiteCroc usage from other players was similar. It was not the monster it was on its release before the Wing/Rod era began. Staminas still really poor, and there's a lot better options. They are basically the DranBuster of the format. Hits hard, but not consistent. It's interesting...

Garuda did very well but was not massively overpowered anything. Tuckwolf's Hard Tilt on 3-70 was the tech and did super well. Saw a match where 3-70 beats a ditto with 3-60 because of the angles it could get which was super cool.

Likewise GolemRock was definitely great for all things, but didn't invalidate everything else. It just ended up being the same as Wing; why not bring it? It does anything you want very well, and it's super wide. I think it should be moreso banned because it's traits invalidate other options. Same reason I have Roar banned in my list.

DranDagger also did similarly terrible. It was absolutely just not it, from me and other players running the 36g variant. It just doesn't do much of value in this format I'm afraid. It feels like CobaltDrake in standard. It's heavy but it doesn't have much going for it. Didn't think it was an issue at all.

LLDu Elevate was a joke. The thing bursted a ton and barely won anything. I swapped to Level and it immediately became a great attacker. Level and 5-60 kept it from bouncing too much. Wouldn't say it's overpowered though.

Weiss was super good and probably the best standard aggro attacker in the format, shockingly.
I wouldn't say it's a must use like Rock was, but it definitely was the premier attack option outside of hard tilt -70 Garuda.

WizardArrow, HellsScythe, and KnightShield all did great for defensive stamina picks. Nothing overpowered. Just good. Same goes for stuff like DranSword or Feather for attack. Solid picks, nothing op, just good and nice at home here.

Crest Hexa and UN ate up hits and functioned properly in the format. Not much to say but defense is real here.

Shout outs to MarzzRover for making The Mandalorian work on 5-60R. Thing hit like a mini WhaleWave and was awesome to see. Very fun combo. I will probably try Mando or Steel Samuel at the next one

3rd placer Vyvilyre also used and has been practicing with WizardArrow on Spike and she absolutely did amazing with it. No words can describe it haha
One of my all time favourite sayings which I often apply to many things (design, video games, card games, etc), is;

Limitation breeds Creativity.

I absolutely adore Limited formats or low power settings, they are always the most fun I have with any game. Plus it's an excellent way to let other favourites shine or even let memes and gimmicks have a chance to entertain! It's just more fun!

So I definitely support this!
Agreed! Imagine my surprise when I learned that a Limited Format for Beyblade X was already in the cards; Limited Formats made collecting Hasbro Beys during the Burst era a lot more worthwhile, so I'm incredibly eager to see what the X Limited Format's meta will be like when taking into account a lot of weaker or underused Blades like GhostCircle and Tusk Mammoth.
Just a couple of observations regarding the new X over beys, as I feel they could be valuable additions.
Dragoon Storm - very light, could be an equaliser, could be Ghost Circle like.
Storm Pegasus - could be like right spin L drago
Victory Valkyrie - feels like the most promising. Good upper attack and weight. Maybe on LF or LR could be good.
Xeno Xcalibur - Lighter and smaller Dran Buster. 7-60 LR or LF could work.
If you've hosted an X Limited event, please post a link to your event in this thread. We're tracking these internally, but I don't want to accidentally miss anyone.
Even though it is a non-WBO event, a variation of BX Limited was played at Beyblade Day of Play #41 at River City Gaming located in Rahway, NJ hosted by FlameLeone2300. The only real difference in the banlist used was that both GhostCircle and ShinobiShadow were legalized, but neither of them played a significant factor at the event. What I can at least say is that I am beginning to understand people's criticisms regarding both Whale Wave and Roar Tyranno should be banned.

Here is the 1st place deck by Wulfka:
https://imgur.com/a/IS6fVuW

https://imgur.com/a/XidOXvk

Here is the 2nd place deck by Kyzer:
https://imgur.com/a/gzfTD2x

Here is the 3rd place deck by Troyzilla919:
https://imgur.com/a/dDgRu0U

https://imgur.com/aVkf0aU

The most common combos used in the top 3 decks are RT Low Rush/Rush and Whale Wave Hexa. The only thing that can be confirmed is that it's honestly better to go with both regular attack and stationary attack combos in decks rather than playing passively. I would also like to note that due to a lot of differences in BX Limited compared to regular X, such as no real definitive OP stamina type, more aggressive oriented approach, and the lack of notable weight difference between the top tier blades amongst the other options, it is a bit more RNG IMO, but nothing truly detrimental to the format itself.