Or any other good defense wheel like rock or earth.

try using dark wheel it has some decent defence qualities

Or any other good defense wheel like rock or earth.

try using dark wheel it has some decent defence qualities

no, earth is pretty much the best defense wheel, and rock is a close second, dark's shape makes it a relatively carp choice for anything

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FS doesn't really have that much defense though, and the attack type should be knocking it out?

My Rock Capricorn 100 FS is a beast defense type.

Or any other good defense wheel like rock or earth.

Rock is a CARP defense wheel.
Edit: Pretty sure that Rock Capricorn 100FS is bad. You probably use PTW.

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If needed, I could do some testing of that combo, but with a different clear wheel.

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Or any other good defense wheel like rock or earth.

Rock is a CARP defense wheel.
Edit: Pretty sure that Rock Capricorn 100FS is bad. You probably use PTW.

I'm still kinda new on the WBO, so what is ptw?

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If needed, I could do some testing of that combo, but with a different clear wheel.

Please do!

Or any other good defense wheel like rock or earth.

Rock is a CARP defense wheel.
Edit: Pretty sure that Rock Capricorn 100FS is bad. You probably use PTW.

I'm still kinda new on the WBO, so what is ptw?

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If needed, I could do some testing of that combo, but with a different clear wheel.

Please do!

PTW is pegasus thunder whip

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I will complete it later today and edit this post with the results.

Okay, here we go. Results!

I'm pretty lazy right now with actual results, so I'll give the shortened version. If anybody really wants it they can PM me.

Conditions:
TT attack stadium
Beylauncher + grip
All tests out of 10

Rock Leone 100 FS V Ray Unicorno CH120 RF
->Rock Leone shot first
->Ray Unicorno shot with banking

Results:
Rock Leone - 30% win rate (2 KO)
Ray Unicorno - 70% win rate (7 KO)


I) Rock Leone 100 FS V MF Earth Bull C145 WB
-> MF Earth Bull C145 WB shot first
-> flat shot used for both
-> Worn WB, shot at 100% power

Results:
Rock Leone - 60% Win rate (0 KO)
Earth Bull - 40% win rate (0 KO)

Acted as a destabiliser, however:

II) Rock Leone 100FS V MF Earth Bull C145 WB
-> Same as above, however Rock Leone is shot first

Results:
Rock Leone - 20% Win rate (0 KO)
Earth Bull - 80% Win rate (0 KO)

I did some testing against Earth Bull 145 WD, but Earth Bull 145 WD dominated every round so I couldn't be bothered doing formal testing for it.

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Or any other good defense wheel like rock or earth.

Rock is a CARP defense wheel.
Edit: Pretty sure that Rock Capricorn 100FS is bad. You probably use PTW.

I'm still kinda new on the WBO, so what is ptw?

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If needed, I could do some testing of that combo, but with a different clear wheel.

Please do!

PTW is pegasus thunder whip

I actually use super vortex and v-force mobile stadium.

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By the way, does anyone have a leone metal wheel they are willing to trade?

I have a blade that I call Evil Pegasus, I made it by taking the FS performance tip, 145DF gear, and the Evil fusion wheel off of my Evil Gemios blade I timed it on a solo spin at 2:59:34 that was in a flat bottomed box but with my lil bro(age 5) launching his L-Drago at me repeatedly I timed it at 1:36:53. I think I picked a pretty good combination what do you think?

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I have a blade that I call Evil Pegasus, I made it by taking the FS performance tip, 145DF gear, and the Evil fusion wheel off of my Evil Gemios blade I timed it on a solo spin at 2:59:34 that was in a flat bottomed box but with my lil bro(age 5) launching his L-Drago at me repeatedly I timed it at 1:36:53. I think I picked a pretty good combination what do you think?

no, thats terrible, you probally used the PTW

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I have a blade that I call Evil Pegasus, I made it by taking the FS performance tip, 145DF gear, and the Evil fusion wheel off of my Evil Gemios blade I timed it on a solo spin at 2:59:34 that was in a flat bottomed box but with my lil bro(age 5) launching his L-Drago at me repeatedly I timed it at 1:36:53. I think I picked a pretty good combination what do you think?

no, thats terrible, you probally used the PTW

Umm what is the PTW

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Pegasis Thunder Whip stadium

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OMG i knew that FS would be good someday!!!
i'm so happy.i am going to try this combo against alot of beyblade.

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My WD is too worn to be used legally, so I'll just beat up the rest of my Earth Aquila and send it to Hasbro so I can get a new one for free.

For the third time....
Why did Takara Tomy nullify the multi-directional spin capability in the MFB's?

It is for a very simple reason. Think about the kids ...

Ive written a little something something for Kai-V, hah.

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Mods names are blue,
And so yours,
Unlike Fyuuors
Under this moonlit night
In Canada.

All a joke.

Because we all know that ghosts are purple ...

test results from Earth-BullCH120FS vs. Earth-CancerH145WD
P.S. WD has nick in the center so it is very aggressive but retains some stamina, both tips are very worn down (Takra-Tomy beys used)

conditions:
hybrid wheel set stadium
bey launchers2x me with my bro both launched at 100% power w/ banking shot for both beys in all battles
results based on 10 battles
all ties redone
results:

MF-E-bullch120(120 height)FS(solo spin time:01:48:62) vs. E-cancerH145WD(solo spin time:01:15:55)
1:E-bull win by instant knockout
2:E-cancer win by instant knockout
3:E-bull win by out spin
4:E-bull went crazy with sonic circle & win by out spin
5:E-cancer win by instant knockout
6:E-bull win by out spin
7:E-bull win by impressive K.O. in 5 seconds
8:E-cancer win by circle knockout(circled the stadium and "shoved" E-bull out)
9:E-cancer win by instant circle knockout in 3 seconds
10:E-bull win by cancer self K.O.(cancer "flew" out of the stadium)
E-BullCH120FS win rate:60%(2 K.O.'s, 4 out spins')
E-CancerH145WD win rate:40%(4 K.O.'s)
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E-bullch120(145 height(the track can change by itself in battle, i have gone to take measures to prevent it ))FS(solo spin time: 02:02:94<- very impressive time difference with 120 height) vs. E-cancerH145WD(solo spin time: 01:22:34)
1:E-cancer win by shove K.O.(refer to battle #8 with E-bull in 120 mode)
2:E-bull win by out spin
3:E-bull win by instant K.O
4:E-bull win by EPIC K.O(the K.O. time was in milliseconds)
5:E-bull win by circle K.O. (tie had to be redone)
6:E-bull win by K.O.
7:E-bull win by out spin
8:E-bull win by cancer self K.O.
9:E-cancer win by millisecond out spin!
10:E-cancer win by instant K.O.
E-bullCH145FS win rate:70%(4K.O.'s, 2 out spins, & 1 sucide(by E-cancer))
E-CancerH145WD win rate:30%(all K.O's except for 1)

conclusion:
E-BullCH120FS is a stamina based smasher in 145 height and a horrible defender in 120 height thus i can say that E-Bull145FS would be OK but with GB145/C145/AD145 E-Bull____FS would need more tests

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test results from Earth-BullCH120FS vs. Earth-CancerH145WD
P.S. WD has nick in the center so it is very aggressive but retains some stamina, both tips are very worn down (Takra-Tomy beys used)

conditions:
hybrid wheel set stadium
bey launchers2x me with my bro both launched at 100% power w/ banking shot for both beys in all battles
results based on 10 battles
all ties redone
results:

MF-E-bullch120(120 height)FS(solo spin time:01:48:62) vs. E-cancerH145WD(solo spin time:01:15:55)
1-bull win by instant knockout
2-cancer win by instant knockout
3-bull win by out spin
4-bull went crazy with sonic circle & win by out spin
5-cancer win by instant knockout
6-bull win by out spin
7-bull win by impressive K.O. in 5 seconds
8-cancer win by circle knockout(circled the stadium and "shoved" E-bull out)
9-cancer win by instant circle knockout in 3 seconds
10-bull win by cancer self K.O.(cancer "flew" out of the stadium)
E-BullCH120FS win rate:60%(2 K.O.'s, 4 out spins')
E-CancerH145WD win rate:40%(4 K.O.'s)
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E-bullch120(145 height(the track can change by itself in battle, i have gone to take measures to prevent it ))FS(solo spin time: 02:02:94<- very impressive time difference with 120 height) vs. E-cancerH145WD(solo spin time: 01:22:34)
1-cancer win by shove K.O.(refer to battle #8 with E-bull in 120 mode)
2-bull win by out spin
3-bull win by instant K.O
4-bull win by EPIC K.O(the K.O. time was in milliseconds)
5-bull win by circle K.O. (tie had to be redone)
6-bull win by K.O.
7-bull win by out spin
8-bull win by cancer self K.O.
9-cancer win by millisecond out spin!
10-cancer win by instant K.O.
E-bullCH145FS win rate:70%(4K.O.'s, 2 out spins, & 1 sucide(by E-cancer))
E-CancerH145WD win rate:30%(all K.O's except for 1)

conclusion:
E-BullCH120FS is a stamina based smasher in 145 height and a horrible defender in 120 height thus i can say that E-Bull145FS would be OK but with GB145/C145/AD145 E-Bull____FS would need more tests

earth cancer h145wd? top tier combos please

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@tman14 sorry i don't have any top tier beys due to lack of good beys in Indonesia but earth cancerH145WD is quite moderate so if you want top tier do the test yourself, I do what I can do

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Sorry for not keeping up with the thread, guys.

On a good note: I appreciate all the tests! From what I can tell, there is a definite Hasbro-Takara gap. I will add them to the first post momentarily.

On a bad note: I got in trouble for getting a C on a test, so until I get another good grade, beys are off limits . I have, however, been able to record some of the weights I promised so I'll be posting those, too.

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@tman14 sorry i don't have any top tier beys due to lack of good beys in Indonesia but earth cancerH145WD is quite moderate so if you want top tier do the test yourself, I do what I can do

its cool, I always neglect useing my H145 in tests, being 4 grams that probalby works, beys are released in Indonesia?

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@tman14 sorry i don't have any top tier beys due to lack of good beys in Indonesia but earth cancerH145WD is quite moderate so if you want top tier do the test yourself, I do what I can do

its cool, I always neglect using my H145 in tests, being 4 grams that probably works, beys are released in Indonesia?

yes as of the fact there are many good beys in Indonesia, including Phoenix which i cant find in Singapore

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When I used my dark Gasher/cancer out of the box it was pretty decent, I admired the way when it took a hit it was right back in the middle before the attacker could recover from the smash it gave. wouldn't recoil be a good thing in FS's case because it would knock it on it's side and allow it to utilise the whole stamina/attack thing, but the whole Dan and Reiki icicle edge thing is exaggerated, it's not that brilliant at attack.

Umm, CS is quite similar to FS. Takara just coated CS in rubber to make it seem fancy, but they are very similar. When FS is launched on the slope of the stadium, it attacks for a while then goes into Stamina mode. Same with CS, only it is more aggressive.
Back on topic, FS could be used for Attack types that have extra stamina or for stamina types that have extra attack. So FS could allow Stamina types to have at least the smallest chance against Attack types.
Aikemi
I hope you get an A soon, I don't have any decent Stamina types to test my theory with.

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yes as of the fact there are many good beys in Indonesia, including Phoenix which i cant find in Singapore

Same here... I live in indonesia too... Anyways, i'll test FS on wide square stadium type.

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Umm, CS is quite similar to FS. Takara just coated CS in rubber to make it seem fancy, but they are very similar. When FS is launched on the slope of the stadium, it attacks for a while then goes into Stamina mode. Same with CS, only it is more aggressive.

I agree, I always viewed FS as the prototype for CS.

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but cs is in truth has better performance levels i might do some more tests with grand and a fresh FS after my old one broke xd vs of course a SD counter

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