Death Discussion

(Nov. 19, 2011  4:44 AM)Dan Wrote: LSTC aren't bad..?

What I mean't is that they get owned by Basalt BD145CS.
I had tested now all ( I will post the test results if you want)
death Bull bd145cs performce better than basalt against vari ares r145/ch120(145)/bd145 rf

death bull bd145cs makes a draw battle against phantom orion B: D in stamina(what I have said ^^)
death bull t125eds has killed by me phantom orion B: D in stamina

why is it so, the answer is easy: death is in my eyes an ultimate balanced wheel because the heavy points are distribute and concentrate on 8(16) points, it makes a big damage, and it´s high, slightly and round, I think it has the perfect form and abillitis for a top tier defense and a good stamina wheel ( and the most importent thing is it performs with bd145 a perfect round wheel )
Test results are worth many million times more than incoherent rambling.
lol, it was standard procedure, why you don´t accept that death is better than basalt and performce well as a stamina wheel?
are you sure that only your test results are right? I used bb-10, L/R power launcher, sliding shoot, normal starts (have I forget something ?)
Yes, you didn't post results. That's a pretty major thing to forget.

I don't even have a Death Quetz so I don't know who you've confused me with.
ohh you need the test resullts ?
I will post it
here they are:

Basalt Bull BD145CS vs. Vari Ares R145RF (Left)
Basalt: 16 wins (11 os, 5 ko)
Vari ares: 4 wins (ko)
2 Draws

Basalt win percentage: 80%


Basalt Bull BD145CS vs. Vari Ares R145RF (right)
Basalt: 10 wins (9 os, 1 ko)
Vari ares: 10 wins (10 ko)
1 draw

Basalt win percentage: 50 %


(Attack) Death Bull BD145CS vs. Vari Ares R145RF (right)
death: 13 wins ( 10 os, 3 ko)
vari ares : 7 wins ( 6 ko, 1 os(lol))
draws: 1

death win percentage: 65% (in defense it has 75%)


(defense) Death Bull BD145CS vs. Vari Ares R145RF (Left)
death: 16 wins( 15 os, 1 ko)
vari ares: 4 wins (ko)
draws: 0

Death win percentage: 80 %


(defense) Death Bull BD145CS vs. Phantom orion B: D(stamina )
death: 10 (os)
Phantom: 10(os)
draws: 5

death win percentage: 50%


(defense) Death Bull BD145CS vs. Phantom orion B: D(attack)
death: 9 wins(os)
phantom:11 wins (os)
draws: 3

death win percentage: 45%


(defense) Death Bull T125EDS vs. phantom orion B: D (both modes the same result)
Death: 16 wins (os)
Phantom: 4 wins (os)
draws: 1

death win percentage: 80%

(Nov. 19, 2011  11:04 AM)Glowfire1 Wrote: (defense) Death Bull T125EDS vs. phantom orion B: D (both modes the same result)
Death: 16 wins (os)
Phantom: 4 wins (os)
draws: 1

death win percentage: 80%

T125EDS on Death beats Phantom Orion on BGrin?!
Why do I have a huge feeling these results are pure bs?
I swear Death shouldnt be surviving Variares, its near impossible...

EDIT (So you dont screa at me): ...at least from what Ive personally witnessed...
It lacks significant recoil, which could explain it, but I also have my doubts about some of these results.

That said, the odd result against phantom B: D could be due to a bad B: D and the heights, I guess.
Well he could be getting those results due to a bad launch I mean getting 20% with VariAres against Basalt BD145CS is very low.
Well yes, the results are pretty much surprising!
Even the ones against VariAres...
Death isn't as good as Basalt IMO, and if VariAres KOes Basalt with ease, Death should also be pushed out...
Considering most wins were by OS, I'd like to ask- Did VariAres miss attacks initially? If yes, then that explains why VariAres lost... Smile

EDIT- Beaten by Rusty, and surprisingly, we have the same points to share! Grin
(Nov. 19, 2011  2:50 PM)RustyXD Wrote: Well he could be getting those results due to a bad launch I mean getting 20% with VariAres against Basalt BD145CS is very low.

Good point, even I do better than that. I didn't notice that, hah.
If you want I can post a Video by youtube, but that are my results, also if you want a vid I will post it
Yes, we would love to see a video.
We do not say that your results are hoax.
Just that we think there's some problem with your launch, and your B: D. Smile
A video will clarify all our doubts. Smile
okay I will post it next time,
Keep in mind that mid-profile typically does offer a nice vantage point for contact against high-profile, which is what BGrin is, as well.
(Nov. 19, 2011  4:52 AM)sum 472 Wrote:
(Nov. 19, 2011  4:44 AM)Dan Wrote: LSTC aren't bad..?

What I mean't is that they get owned by Basalt BD145CS.
What are you talking about? That is the exact opposite reason why the are so great. They defeat BD145 (Normal Mode) customs.

And get bent over the knee by everything else.

Worth mention.
BD145 customizations make up a large part of many meta-games, and LTSC can successfully defeat most BD145 (normal mode) customizations.

TH170-230 are not considered 'everything else'. Attackers aren't even a factor here since they are used rarely in many metagames, so I won't even consider it as form of Kryptonite for LTSC.
LTSC is not necessarily the worst way to go like you are incorrectly making it seem..

Basalt LTSC's on the other hand..
TH170 Stamina combos have the upper hand against many BD145 combos, too, especially in the right hands.

I'm not saying they're useless, I'm just saying they're less versatile. LTSC is less popular. There is a reason it is less popular. I just calls em' how I see's em'.

and attack really is becoming more common, unless the Winning Combinations thread and people building combos around attackers being more common than I've ever seen it is imaginary.
I know no-one asked for this :D, but here are my test results
I mainly focused this on Death B:D
Bey launcher L/R w/ launcher extension
BB-10 Stadium was being used for these test

MF-H (Defense) Death Kerbecs B:D (6 Min. Mold) Vs. MF Variares TR145RF (left spin)

Results:
MF Variares TR145RF: 8 KO
MF-H DK B:D: 11 OS, 1 KO

Death's Percentage: 60%

Death's KO was when it bounced off the wall and slammed into Variares, 2 ties we redone.

MF-H (Defense) Death Kerbecs B:D (6 min. mold) Vs. MF-L LDD BD145RF
LDD BD145RF: 2 KO
DK B:D: 8 OS

Death's Pecentage: 80%

Derp... Walled.I changed the testing down to ten so I could get in some more test.

MF-H (Defense) Death Kerbecs B:D Vs. MF Blitz Unicorno 85R2F

BU 85R2F: 4 KO
DK B:D: 1 KO,5 OS

Death's Percentage: 60%

MF-H (Defense) Death Kerbecs B:D (6 min. mold) VS. MF-H Basalt Bull B:D (5 min. mold(Semi-Agressive O.o))

DK B:D: 2 KO, 3 OS
BB B:D: 4 KO, 1 OS

Death's Percentage: 50%

MF-H (Stamina) Phantom Orion BD145CS Vs. MF-H (Defense) Death Kerbecs B:D

PO: 2 OS
DK: 8 OS

Death's Percentage: 80%

Its funny how Phantom orion BD145CS has the stamina of Phantom B:D...

Total Percentage: Roughly 66%

I hope these testings help :D
I've got to say, those attack results are poor, very poor.
(Nov. 19, 2011  2:33 PM)Galaxy Jay Wrote: I swear Death shouldnt be surviving Variares, its near impossible...

EDIT (So you dont screa at me): ...at least from what Ive personally witnessed...

Death does pretty well against VariAres actually, both BD145 and LTDC variants.
(Nov. 20, 2011  6:13 AM)Dan Wrote: I've got to say, those attack results are poor, very poor.

The attack beys barely even pushed Death..Except LDD it kept getting Death on the tornade ridge, and almost OS Death.
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I don't see why that would happen. Attackers should be ravaging Death.