"Build me a combo!" #2

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(Sep. 26, 2021  7:22 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
(Sep. 25, 2021  6:27 AM)(Blank) Wrote: I... actually understood most of that. I love using Union Speed mode on Generate because SPEED, but now I understand it's concept more. Thank you!

Union speed is okay, but I think it's not as good as Twin Nemesis. Dk.
I see, I don't have Twin Nemesis though so I won't be able to utilize Generate. Isn't that a god bey though, wouldn't it be outclassed in limited by other beys like fafnir and spriggan?

Also, damn GreaterLonginus is replying to all threads?! Lmao
(Sep. 26, 2021  8:31 AM)(Blank) Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  7:22 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Union speed is okay, but I think it's not as good as Twin Nemesis. Dk.
I see, I don't have Twin Nemesis though so I won't be able to utilize Generate. Isn't that a god bey though, wouldn't it be outclassed in limited by other beys like fafnir and spriggan?

Also, damn GreaterLonginus is replying to all threads?! Lmao

Don't you have Bloody Longinus? That's the best on Generate (Limited format).

(Sep. 26, 2021  8:31 AM)(Blank) Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  7:22 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Union speed is okay, but I think it's not as good as Twin Nemesis. Dk.
I see, I don't have Twin Nemesis though so I won't be able to utilize Generate. Isn't that a god bey though, wouldn't it be outclassed in limited by other beys like fafnir and spriggan?

Also, damn GreaterLonginus is replying to all threads?! Lmao

Isn't Spriggan a god bey? *rolls eyes*
lol

The Cho-Z beys that are allowed in Limited are beys that are equal, worse, or slightly better than God beys. Limited is a god-based format.
I see, I have Nightmare so I'm guessing that's gonna be my go to. There's also the option of using Rock Dragon Gen 00 Atomic/Drift. I'm actually thinking of going Destroy' with Nightmare or Drift, but I think Destroy' would be better since it will be more versatile.
(Sep. 26, 2021  1:28 PM)(Blank) Wrote: I see, I have Nightmare so I'm guessing that's gonna be my go to. There's also the option of using Rock Dragon Gen 00 Atomic/Drift. I'm actually thinking of going Destroy' with Nightmare or Drift, but I think Destroy' would be better since it will be more versatile.

NIghtmare Longinus should be put with jolt

Destroy is for mixed attack

put destroy' with union speed i guess (not sure)

Kei had this combo:
Rock Valkyrie 0Lift Rise Gen

Since you don't have lift, replace it with wall. If you don't have rise, idk
why- why would I use wall? Wouldn't it scrape? I think I can use atomic or orbit metal, whichever is taller, to help with scrape. But if I won't use wall, I'll use atomic which it freespins better

Wait, jolt? Wouldn't that just make nightmare burst more?

union speed with destroy' is interesting, I could use 00 for better stamina. I'm gonna test those now

(Sep. 26, 2021  1:31 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  1:28 PM)(Blank) Wrote: I see, I have Nightmare so I'm guessing that's gonna be my go to. There's also the option of using Rock Dragon Gen 00 Atomic/Drift. I'm actually thinking of going Destroy' with Nightmare or Drift, but I think Destroy' would be better since it will be more versatile.

NIghtmare Longinus should be put with jolt

Destroy is for mixed attack

put destroy' with union speed i guess (not sure)

Kei had this combo:
Rock Valkyrie 0Lift Rise Gen

Since you don't have lift, replace it with wall. If you don't have rise, idk
Kei seems like he knows a lot, I will follow his combo (discount version)
(Sep. 26, 2021  1:37 PM)(Blank) Wrote: why- why would I use wall? Wouldn't it scrape? I think I can use atomic or orbit metal, whichever is taller, to help with scrape. But if I won't use wall, I'll use atomic which it freespins better

Wait, jolt? Wouldn't that just make nightmare burst more?

union speed with destroy' is interesting, I could use 00 for better stamina. I'm gonna test those now

(Sep. 26, 2021  1:31 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: NIghtmare Longinus should be put with jolt

Destroy is for mixed attack

put destroy' with union speed i guess (not sure)

Kei had this combo:
Rock Valkyrie 0Lift Rise Gen

Since you don't have lift, replace it with wall. If you don't have rise, idk
Kei seems like he knows a lot, I will follow his combo (discount version)

Do you have rise?

What exactly do you mean by discount version
I use Wall and Atomic or just not use wall at all. I do not have rise.
(Sep. 26, 2021  1:54 PM)(Blank) Wrote: I use Wall and Atomic or just not use wall at all. I do not have rise.
Discount combo means a combo that does a similar thing. Using atomic isn't a discount combo.

Using atomic is mushing meta parts together and calling it meta
(Sep. 26, 2021  1:58 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  1:54 PM)(Blank) Wrote: I use Wall and Atomic or just not use wall at all. I do not have rise.
Discount combo means a combo that does a similar thing. Using atomic isn't a discount combo.

Using atomic is mushing meta parts together and calling it meta
Ah, ok. I don't have a driver with a plate like bearing, so the next best thing is something that also freespins. Which is Atomic of Orbit Metal, I can use Xtend+ since it sorta has a plate. This is limited tho, so it's banned. Off topic, how do you control Drift driver in same spin?
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:01 PM)(Blank) Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  1:58 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Discount combo means a combo that does a similar thing. Using atomic isn't a discount combo.

Using atomic is mushing meta parts together and calling it meta
Ah, ok. I don't have a driver with a plate like bearing, so the next best thing is something that also freespins. Which is Atomic of Orbit Metal, I can use Xtend+ since it sorta has a plate. This is limited tho, so it's banned. Off topic, how do you control Drift driver in same spin?
Just don't use Rock? idk
Hmm... I guess, I'll test it those combos you said right now and say results once I get some
Nightmare Longinus 9 Jolt
Bloody Longinus Generate
Union Achilles 00 Destroy'
These are your best bets for Limited
Do you have like drain fafnir or alter chronos or geist fafnir, or other stamina layers?

(Sep. 26, 2021  1:58 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  1:54 PM)(Blank) Wrote: I use Wall and Atomic or just not use wall at all. I do not have rise.
Discount combo means a combo that does a similar thing. Using atomic isn't a discount combo.

Using atomic is mushing meta parts together and calling it meta

Oh i can give you an example of discount
I am a discount version of HyperSpriggan!
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:04 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Nightmare Longinus 9 Jolt
Bloody Longinus Generate
Union Achilles 00 Destroy'
These are your best bets for Limited
Do you have like drain fafnir or alter chronos or geist fafnir, or other stamina layers?
Currently, my only stamina beys are Grand. Maybe Slash, Rock is the closest to a Stamina type I have. Union Speed, could be. Other than that, nada
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:07 PM)(Blank) Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:04 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Nightmare Longinus 9 Jolt
Bloody Longinus Generate
Union Achilles 00 Destroy'
These are your best bets for Limited
Do you have like drain fafnir or alter chronos or geist fafnir, or other stamina layers?
Currently, my only stamina beys are Grand. Maybe Slash, Rock is the closest to a Stamina type I have. Union Speed, could be. Other than that, nada

Is grand allowed? I'm not sure. 
So your deck is fully made of attack types!

(Sep. 26, 2021  1:37 PM)(Blank) Wrote: why- why would I use wall? Wouldn't it scrape? I think I can use atomic or orbit metal, whichever is taller, to help with scrape. But if I won't use wall, I'll use atomic which it freespins better
Wall cause of precession (i think thats what its called) 
wall can be used with bearing, zone'+Z, rise and dimension-S
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:08 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:07 PM)(Blank) Wrote: Currently, my only stamina beys are Grand. Maybe Slash, Rock is the closest to a Stamina type I have. Union Speed, could be. Other than that, nada

Is grand allowed? I'm not sure. 
So your deck is fully made of attack types!
Yup, it is. Time to practice my rush launch lmao. The three dragons are allowed, I just... don't use Grand as much as Rock and Ace. Grand has potential but Rock is just better for Defense, Stamina and Stationary Attack.

(Sep. 26, 2021  2:08 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:07 PM)(Blank) Wrote: Currently, my only stamina beys are Grand. Maybe Slash, Rock is the closest to a Stamina type I have. Union Speed, could be. Other than that, nada

Is grand allowed? I'm not sure. 
So your deck is fully made of attack types!

(Sep. 26, 2021  1:37 PM)(Blank) Wrote: why- why would I use wall? Wouldn't it scrape? I think I can use atomic or orbit metal, whichever is taller, to help with scrape. But if I won't use wall, I'll use atomic which it freespins better
Wall cause of precession (i think thats what its called) 
wall can be used with bearing, zone'+Z, rise and dimension-S
I have none of those, I have Dimension' tho. Which mode should I use? Low or high? I think High would be better since it would scrape less
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:08 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:07 PM)(Blank) Wrote: Currently, my only stamina beys are Grand. Maybe Slash, Rock is the closest to a Stamina type I have. Union Speed, could be. Other than that, nada

Is grand allowed? I'm not sure. 
So your deck is fully made of attack types!

union is actually pretty good! however with slash you have bad burst resistance due to the recoil it makes with the rubber (or so i speculated) and doesn't have a very good weight because "since it doesn't have much detail, many other weights outclass it" from the bey wiki
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:10 PM)(Blank) Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:08 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Is grand allowed? I'm not sure. 
So your deck is fully made of attack types!
Yup, it is. Time to practice my rush launch lmao. The three dragons are allowed, I just... don't use Grand as much as Rock and Ace. Grand has potential but Rock is just better for Defense, Stamina and Stationary Attack.

(Sep. 26, 2021  2:08 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Is grand allowed? I'm not sure. 
So your deck is fully made of attack types!

Wall cause of precession (i think thats what its called) 
wall can be used with bearing, zone'+Z, rise and dimension-S
I have none of those, I have Dimension' tho. Which mode should I use? Low or high? I think High would be better since it would scrape less

Dimension-S is different, it's the hasbro version that's better than the TT one, they do completely different things
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:14 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:10 PM)(Blank) Wrote: Yup, it is. Time to practice my rush launch lmao. The three dragons are allowed, I just... don't use Grand as much as Rock and Ace. Grand has potential but Rock is just better for Defense, Stamina and Stationary Attack.

I have none of those, I have Dimension' tho. Which mode should I use? Low or high? I think High would be better since it would scrape less

Dimension-S is different, it's the hasbro version that's better than the TT one, they do completely different things
I see, but it's still a good combo right? I guess it can work, also burst resistance should be really good.
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:16 PM)(Blank) Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:14 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Dimension-S is different, it's the hasbro version that's better than the TT one, they do completely different things
I see, but it's still a good combo right? I guess it can work, also burst resistance should be really good.
Dimension' was trash, is trash

So no its not a good combo

DImension-S has great LAD, DImension' has greatly horrible stamina and control
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:21 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:16 PM)(Blank) Wrote: I see, but it's still a good combo right? I guess it can work, also burst resistance should be really good.
Dimension' was trash, is trash

So no its not a good combo

DImension-S has great LAD, DImension' has greatly horrible stamina and control
If by horrible control, do you mean it does Spriggan Counter? It's actually pretty good in low mode, I tested it on World Spriggan against Rage same spin
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:28 PM)(Blank) Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:21 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Dimension' was trash, is trash

So no its not a good combo

DImension-S has great LAD, DImension' has greatly horrible stamina and control
If by horrible control, do you mean it does Spriggan Counter? It's actually pretty good in low mode, I tested it on World Spriggan against Rage same spin
NO

It means it goes crazy, hits the walls, bounces into another wall, and either dies or dies
Well at least mine does
If yours doesn't it's still horrible
whatcombo did you use for world and rage?

Dimension' has bad same-spin even on the occasion in which it goes to the middle (every five millenia)
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:29 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:28 PM)(Blank) Wrote: If by horrible control, do you mean it does Spriggan Counter? It's actually pretty good in low mode, I tested it on World Spriggan against Rage same spin
NO

It means it goes crazy, hits the walls, bounces into another wall, and either dies or dies
Well at least mine does
If yours doesn't it's still horrible
whatcombo did you use for world and rage?

Dimension' has bad same-spin even on the occasion in which it goes to the middle (every five millenia)
On high mode it always goes to the middle, in low mod it always attack beys. Rage had 3A Xtend+(Attack) I think. World was World Spriggan 2B Dimension' (left)
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:34 PM)(Blank) Wrote:
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:29 PM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: NO

It means it goes crazy, hits the walls, bounces into another wall, and either dies or dies
Well at least mine does
If yours doesn't it's still horrible
whatcombo did you use for world and rage?

Dimension' has bad same-spin even on the occasion in which it goes to the middle (every five millenia)
On high mode it always goes to the middle, in low mod it always attack beys. Rage had 3A Xtend+(Attack) I think. World was World Spriggan 2B Dimension' (left)
HyperSpriggan has said a thousand times Xtend+ attack has horrible same-spin and 3A will scrape on Xtend+

USE JOLTTTT

It won because you used Xtend+ attack on same spin
I guess so, I shall try these now. Time to set up my stadium
(Sep. 26, 2021  2:37 PM)(Blank) Wrote: I guess so, I shall try these now. Time to set up my stadium

If you do a proper sliding shoot with Rage Jolt it should send World flying or kill its stamina