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Jun. 28, 2011  1:32 PM
 
And they can't hit 230, as it's too smooth and there's no metal on metal contact, and BD145, being plastic, spoils any attempts lower attackers make to attack... Uncertain This is why they are top tier defensive tracks.

Also, re:upper attack, there's a post I wrote about it linked in my signature. Read it. Uncertain
Jun. 28, 2011  1:34 PM
 
But currently the best used defense track also includes 230 which can only be knocked around/destabilized if something as heavy as a BD145 blade attacks it so I dont think Vulcan with BD145 and RF/R2F will be that bad...correct me if I am wrong

EDIT: Beaten by th!nk
Jun. 28, 2011  1:37 PM
 
(Jun. 28, 2011  12:43 PM)gokurox Wrote:
(Jun. 28, 2011  11:33 AM)Ray Unicorno. Wrote: Its good but outclassed by Gravity, Lightning, Fang, Beat, Meteo and L Drago Destroy nowadays. The best combo for it is Vulcan Byxis AD145R2F.

Please don't give false info, the best combo for Vulcan is Metal Face Vulcan Horuseus 85/90/100/CH120 RF/R2F according to Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos

Other than CH120, that's outdated. Even on CH120 and AD145, it's severely outclassed.
Honestly, the tier list is usually out of date, the amount of testing expected can't keep up with the new releases, especially when people aren't testing stuff to keep combo's to themselves... Personally, I dislike the way it is run with the amount of required testing, given things become common knowledge, and that it requires a huge discussion and everything to get a decision made, but it is not my choice how it's run inb4 someone yells at me for saying this. I feel it needs to be said, while accuracy is important, it a) never stopped us putting ray in, even though the tip of the beys it came with made it useless, and b) it's even less accurate than the odd error inclusion because it's constantly so out of date.)

Ray Unicorno. is completely correct.

Vulcan BD145 is bad because vulcan is too small to make adequate contact. Vulcan is a severely outclassed wheel, and it's the tier list's fault that we have to argue this Uncertain
Jun. 28, 2011  1:58 PM
 
I need the best right spin attacker combo for the beys I listed:

Screw Capricorne 90MF
Storm Pegasis 105RF
Hell Kerbecs BD145DS
Lightning L-Drago 100HF (Don't use Lightning L-Drago MW cuz its left spin lol)
Rock Giraffe R145WB
Dark Cancer CH120SF
Thermal Pisces T125ES

Pls rate them and tell me what would improve it further.
Jun. 28, 2011  2:01 PM
 
Why shouldn't we use LLD, it's the best attack bey you have...
Anyway, Hell Kerbecs BD145RF. Needs a metal face, and I prefer R2F.

You can also make Screw Pisces 90RF, which is cool, but yeah, Hell is better.
Jun. 28, 2011  2:04 PM
 
(Jun. 28, 2011  1:58 PM)ShimonCozaart Wrote: I need the best right spin attacker combo for the beys I listed:

Screw Capricorne 90MF
Storm Pegasis 105RF
Hell Kerbecs BD145DS
Lightning L-Drago 100HF (Don't use Lightning L-Drago MW cuz its left spin lol)
Rock Giraffe R145WB
Dark Cancer CH120SF
Thermal Pisces T125ES

Pls rate them and tell me what would improve it further.

you know what, you are believing to much of the anime(maybe). Lightning L-drago BD145RF is Top tier.
Jun. 28, 2011  2:09 PM
 
Im jsut asking for right spin just for fun... As im sick of using MF LLD BD145RF Lol.... But I use it in tourneys but at home Im bored with it... I jsut want to try out some right spin lol
Jun. 28, 2011  2:16 PM
 
But u can use right spin ones only as a substitute to LLD BD145 RF cuz right spinners are nowhere near it in attack...and for 'jsut' trying out u could have tested some right spin combos with RF/R2F tip urself...that wont make u so bored
Jun. 28, 2011  2:23 PM
 
TBH, "jsut" is an easy error to make, I do it a lot.
Also, I can understand why he wants that. Sam is right that playing with them yourself to find out is quite fun. But yeah, Hell Kerbecs BD145RF, and Screw Pisces 90RF is fun too (won't do carp to BD145 though) so yeah Smile
Jun. 28, 2011  2:32 PM
 
I made Basalt Aquario DF 145 WD(those are the best parts I have for Basalt other than a RF) while playing with Basalt and BBP. And 'jsut' is easy to make because 'j' and 'u' are very close to each other so the finger reaches 'u' before 's'. Anyways so I wanted to know if this combo which I made while playing is good(by good I mean better than mediocre not top-tier) or no. And I know I need to get BD145 and CS and 230 to make it better but if I only have RF, FS, R2F and HF/S tips and 85,100,105 and 145 tracks to choose from is this good?
Jun. 28, 2011  2:36 PM
 
That would make Jsut hard to make, but I type two handed, and my finger usually hovers over the S.
Use 145 instead of DF145, or maybe even use 100WD, that's useable defensively.
Jun. 28, 2011  2:42 PM
 
OK but wont DF 145 protect the blade from Low track destabilizers? Because when I used to destabilize Aquila 145 WD with Rock Aquario 100 FS...my friend switched to DF 145 and that made Aquila tougher to be destabilized..it actually sort of warded off the attacks of Aquario...so just wonering whether DF 145 would be better against destabilizers or in any case 145 will only serve the job best?
Jun. 28, 2011  2:46 PM
 
Hmmm. Not sure. Don't think that's been tested, maybe it should be (well, Df145 vs LTSC). Confused

I'd use 100, but if you think DF145 works better, use it, as the difference between that and 145 stamina wise is debatable.
Jun. 28, 2011  2:52 PM
 
LTSC=Low Track Stamina Combos? And I would have tested that If I had even one Earth Fusion wheel but my hatred for Earth wheels for no reason prevented me from buying Earth(turning to be bad for me). Can Basalt be used for LTSC's? and if not then is there any wheel released by Hasbro(except Earth and Burn) which can be used to make one..if not then I th!nk I have to get my friend's Virgo, Eagle and Fireblaze to test and before that I need to master the beylauncher
Jun. 28, 2011  2:54 PM
 
ok i need to know a combo with stamina, defense and that would be good for knocking beys out of the stadium using these beys and that would also beat the combo basalt kerbecs 230CS.

basalt horogium, hell kerbecs, screw capricorne, ray unicorno( my CS is not agressive), meteo L-Drago, galaxy pegasis, rock leone, rock escolpio/scorpio, earth virgo, dark cancer/gasher, and sol blaze.
Jun. 28, 2011  2:56 PM
 
You can make Hell Kerbecs BD 145 CS with MF-H..I think that may beat Basalt not too sure about it. Or you may use Meteo L-Drago BD145 R2F not very sure in this case too...correct me if I am wrong
Jun. 28, 2011  3:13 PM
 
Try out Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS, If you're CS is semi-aggressive.

But really, combo's that are equally good in all three types are really bad, and fail to win many matches.

Instead, use these combos:

Attack: Meteo L Drago CH120R²F
Defense: Basalt Aquario BD145CS
Stamina Hell Kerbecs BD145WD

They are all good combos, except they lack Metal Faces, add an MF-H to the Defense type to maximize its Defense capabilities.

For the Attack type, an ordinary Metal Face will do, but I recommend Lightning L Drago, use that instead of Meteo L Drago on the Attack type and you will have an amazing custom, If you do use Lightning L Drago on it, then switch CH120 with BD145.
Jun. 28, 2011  3:22 PM
 
If your CS isn't aggro, I'd use that for the stamina combo too Tongue_out

And you don't need a semi aggro CS for that basalt combo, it makes the most passive CS move a fair bit.
Jun. 28, 2011  3:54 PM
 
(Jun. 28, 2011  2:52 PM)SAM10795 Wrote: LTSC=Low Track Stamina Combos? And I would have tested that If I had even one Earth Fusion wheel but my hatred for Earth wheels for no reason prevented me from buying Earth(turning to be bad for me). Can Basalt be used for LTSC's? and if not then is there any wheel released by Hasbro(except Earth and Burn) which can be used to make one..if not then I th!nk I have to get my friend's Virgo, Eagle and Fireblaze to test and before that I need to master the beylauncher


Well, btw, just keep Basalt for Defense... Yes, its top tier for Stamina, but according to th!nk, its better to keep Basalt for Defense...
Yes, Earth, Burn, Virgo(5 min) can be used... Still, if you want an AMAZING Stamina type, its always better to have a Hell Kerbecs in your collection. I know you know it, but yeah! Also, that combo Basalt Aquario DF145WD is just good... That's all because of the presence of Basalt, that's all. Also, even I've seen that DF145 makes a bey tougher to destabilize. The reason, according to my observation is-
1. DF145 is slightly heavier than a normal 145, making it slightly tougher to destabilize.
2. DF145 is wider than 145, because of the wings. This reduces the amount of contact with the metal wheel, and the plastic of DF145 absorbs the hit quite well. As its required to strike the bey from below, in order to destabilize it, DF145 cuts off the slightest of chances of getting hold of the fusion wheel, and usually results in a low powered attack...

That's MY observation....

@th!nk- This is the reason why I am confused....
MLD CH120XF is good, and no other tip but XF should be used... So, why R2F? I mean, why not MLD BD145R2F?
Jun. 28, 2011  4:01 PM
 
100WD will give you decent defensive power from it, and good enough stamina too, IIRC.

MLD BD145LRF/R2F/RF is okay, it's just mostly outclassed by the LLD version. You can use R2F on it, as a pure attacker, but as a pure attacker, MLD will almost always be outclassed by it's predecessor.

The reason we say only use XF in the MF MLD CH120XF thread is because no other tip works as well as it for the same kind of effect. R2F works okay (but again, it's rather dated/outclassed in this metagame), but yeah.
Jun. 28, 2011  4:04 PM
 
(Jun. 28, 2011  4:01 PM)th!nk Wrote: 100WD will give you decent defensive power from it, and good enough stamina too, IIRC.

MLD BD145LRF/R2F/RF is okay, it's just mostly outclassed by the LLD version. You can use R2F on it, as a pure attacker, but as a pure attacker, MLD will almost always be outclassed by it's predecessor.

The reason we say only use XF in the MF MLD CH120XF thread is because no other tip works as well as it for the same kind of effect. R2F works okay (but again, it's rather dated/outclassed in this metagame), but yeah.

Well, thanks! I do know that XF works best with the combo, and is known to be able to outspin the most strongest of Stamina types at times.... Smile R2F on the other hand, is just a pure attacker.... Isn't it?
Jun. 28, 2011  4:40 PM
 
I have Storm Pegasus 105RF, Storm Aquario 100HF/S, Dark Bull H145SD, Dark Wolf DF145FS, Earth Virgo GB145BS and also spare Counter and Rock fusion wheels. Can you please build combos for each type?
Thanks in advance.
Jun. 28, 2011  4:45 PM
 
Attack : Rock ____ H145 RF recoil attacker
Defence : Earth Bull GB145 SD
Stamina : Earth Aquario DF145 SD
Jun. 28, 2011  4:47 PM
 
(Jun. 28, 2011  4:40 PM)Mayur Wrote: I have Storm Pegasus 105RF, Storm Aquario 100HF/S, Dark Bull H145SD, Dark Wolf DF145FS, Earth Virgo GB145BS and also spare Counter and Rock fusion wheels. Can you please build combos for each type?
Thanks in advance.

Earth Bull/Aquario 100 SD (stamina)
Earth Bull/Aquario GB145 SD (defense)
Rock/Storm Bull/Aquario GB145 RF (attack)
Jun. 28, 2011  4:57 PM
 
Uwik: Counter also works well in that attack combo, arguably better than rock. (Some testing has shown this, plus it's what I've seen).

Janstarblast: Yes, that is correct.
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