Libra CH120RF is clearly an attack type. That is what makes this all confusing. RF is used for attack meaning that the combo is an attack type if it moves as such. It was only labeled as a balance type based on a lack for a better term atm because Brad did not know what to call it. It has been shown to be an attacker. Libra may provide stamina but that is like saying just because flame has more stamina than storm on RF, Flame___100RF is more inclined to be a balance type than Storm___100RF. Attack is attack IMO. Also, if that is the case, then are you saying that something like Burn GB145RF is a balance combo? I mean, just as you said with Libra, it provides stamina, weight which could be used to say its for defense, and RF provides attack. Is that your logic?

Libra CH120RF is NOT a pure attack type. It acts like one. There's a difference.

All of these other combos you're throwing at me have no relevance unless they're tested correctly. Types cannot be determined purely by their parts. The difference between Burn GB145RF and Libra CH120RF is this: Libra has proven to work. Pull out some results on that combo on all three types and then we'll see. You cannot speculate anything without tests to back it up. This was why Libra CH120RF was labeled a Balance type in the first place.

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I suppose this is why Quetzalcoatl was inducted, a lot of recoil when hit from under = Quetz's main job lmao.
Bluezee, what do you have against CS as a defensive tip?

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Libra CH120RF is clearly an attack type. That is what makes this all confusing. RF is used for attack meaning that the combo is an attack type if it moves as such. It was only labeled as a balance type based on a lack for a better term atm because Brad did not know what to call it. It has been shown to be an attacker. Libra may provide stamina but that is like saying just because flame has more stamina than storm on RF, Flame___100RF is more inclined to be a balance type than Storm___100RF. Attack is attack IMO. Also, if that is the case, then are you saying that something like Burn GB145RF is a balance combo? I mean, just as you said with Libra, it provides stamina, weight which could be used to say its for defense, and RF provides attack. Is that your logic?

Libra CH120RF is NOT a pure attack type. It acts like one. There's a difference.

All of these other combos you're throwing at me have no relevance unless they're tested correctly. Types cannot be determined purely by their parts. The difference between Burn GB145RF and Libra CH120RF is this: Libra has proven to work. Pull out some results on that combo on all three types and then we'll see. You cannot speculate anything without tests to back it up. This was why Libra CH120RF was labeled a Balance type in the first place.

Do I need to show you proof that Libra CH120RF was not intentionally labeled as balance? I mean, if that is what you want, I can get you that. I'll test the Burn combo as well. This is why I made my thread in the first place because none of this makes sense. You just said I can not compare CS to RF because CS was not intended to be a pure attack type as you say but RF is. Does that not mean that would make any combo that uses RF, which is CLEARLY intended to be used for attack, an attack type?

Instead of you guys raging about this, why not call Libra CH120RF a balanced type?

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Instead of you guys raging about this, why not call Libra CH120RF a balanced type?

You know, that would actually make sense but then that would lead people to believe that is is a balance type when it really isnt. I would do that though.

Make an announcement or a sticky, making it very clear to all new users?

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Make an announcement or a sticky, making it very clear to all new users?

I'll look into it as soon as I finish up this testing.

Do I need to show you proof that Libra CH120RF was not intentionally labeled as balance? I mean, if that is what you want, I can get you that. I'll test the Burn combo as well. This is why I made my thread in the first place because none of this makes sense. You just said I can not compare CS to RF because CS was not intended to be a pure attack type as you say but RF is. Does that not mean that would make any combo that uses RF, which is CLEARLY intended to be used for attack, an attack type?

Libra CH120RF wasn't intended for Balance?

I designed this combo when trying to think of a "tier-killer"; essentially, a Beyblade that can beat the top Beyblades from all three types.

I never said that RF is a pure attack type bottom, but it is. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that everything with an RF is going to be an attack type.

Seriously, if you don't know how to differentiate between types, go to the BeyWiki. I'll save you the time.

Attack is a Beyblade type used to classify aggressive Beyblades that battle by hitting the opponent repeatedly in order to stop them from spinning or to knock them out of the Beystadium. Attack-type Beyblades often have flat tips, sometimes made out of rubber in order to increase their speed. They generally attack using projections for Smash Attack or slopes for Upper Attack.

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Do I need to show you proof that Libra CH120RF was not intentionally labeled as balance? I mean, if that is what you want, I can get you that. I'll test the Burn combo as well. This is why I made my thread in the first place because none of this makes sense. You just said I can not compare CS to RF because CS was not intended to be a pure attack type as you say but RF is. Does that not mean that would make any combo that uses RF, which is CLEARLY intended to be used for attack, an attack type?

Libra CH120RF wasn't intended for Balance?

I designed this combo when trying to think of a "tier-killer"; essentially, a Beyblade that can beat the top Beyblades from all three types.

I never said that RF is a pure attack type bottom, but it is. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that everything with an RF is going to be an attack type.

Seriously, if you don't know how to differentiate between types, go to the BeyWiki. I'll save you the time.

Attack is a Beyblade type used to classify aggressive Beyblades that battle by hitting the opponent repeatedly in order to stop them from spinning or to knock them out of the Beystadium. Attack-type Beyblades often have flat tips, sometimes made out of rubber in order to increase their speed. They generally attack using projections for Smash Attack or slopes for Upper Attack.

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Libra clearly has gaps and protrusions large enough to produce recoil which in turn, makes it usable for attack. Just like Burn, Virgo, etc. So now does that make it an attack type. I know how to differentiate between types. It is just that this current metagame is confusing and unorganized. Is a pure attack bottom for attack types or not? Or are you trying to tell me that if someone were to come up with some combo that uses RF for defense, although it is CLEARLY an attack bottom, its purpose would suddenly change?

Libra clearly has gaps and protrusions large enough to produce recoil which in turn, makes it usable for attack. Just like Burn, Virgo, etc. So now does that make it an attack type. I know how to differentiate between types. It is just that this current metagame is confusing and unorganized. Is a pure attack bottom for attack types or not? Or are you trying to tell me that if someone were to come up with some combo that uses RF for defense, although it is CLEARLY an attack bottom, its purpose would suddenly change?

Dark has gaps. I think I'll use it for attack.
Small gaps like those on Libra don't transform a defense wheel into an attack one.

A pure attack type bottom adds attack-like movement. Just because it's an excellent attack type bottom doesn't mean it can't benefit other categories, which brings us back to CS. Every bottom can have different uses for attack, defense and stamina. It's just the way the player utilizes that part.

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Libra clearly has gaps and protrusions large enough to produce recoil which in turn, makes it usable for attack. Just like Burn, Virgo, etc. So now does that make it an attack type. I know how to differentiate between types. It is just that this current metagame is confusing and unorganized. Is a pure attack bottom for attack types or not? Or are you trying to tell me that if someone were to come up with some combo that uses RF for defense, although it is CLEARLY an attack bottom, its purpose would suddenly change?

Dark has gaps. I think I'll use it for attack.
Small gaps like those on Libra don't transform a defense wheel into an attack one.

A pure attack type bottom adds attack-like movement. Just because it's an excellent attack type bottom doesn't mean it can't benefit other categories, which brings us back to CS. Every bottom can have different uses for attack, defense and stamina. It's just the way the player utilizes that part.

Here is what I will do since you do not seem to be getting what I am saying. I will make a combo like the one I listed. Afterwards, I will let everyone else decide what it is. I am quite sure that it will be labeled as an attack type, making Libra CH120RF an attack type. Whether the protrusions are small or large, they are protrustion, making it usable for attack. If parts do not specify what a beyblade is, then why do we have labels in the first place and why don't we just go by what people say their purpose is? If that's the case, I can make a combo like L L Drago 100RS and say its an attacker right? That wouldn't make any sense would it?

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Wait-- RS for an attack combo? That's not right.

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Wasn't Grip Core used for defense back in HMS?

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Not as far as I can tell (maybe poor people used it?).
It seems like people just used Bearing Core 2.
and Seaborg 1's BB is trash

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It seems like people just used Bearing Core 2.

Ah yes, it was Bearing Core 2. My mistake.

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With all the ridiculous dissagreements you seem to have with all of the notable users on this board, did you ever think something might just be wrong with your ideas or your logic?
Or is every veteran on the entire board an idiot?


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When did I even say that quote that you have? I dont remember typing that. And first of all, do you even know how long I have been on here and contributions I may have made? Dont try to give me some veteran talk. BTW, what do you think determines someone's "notable" status? Time? Just because something is commonly accepted does not make it right. Maybe you should use that as some food for thought.

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Wasn't Grip Core used for defense back in HMS?

BTW, people did use Grip Sharp Core for HMS. It may not have been the best of course but it was used.

because i stricty enforce the tier list and have never made any attempt to change it

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because i stricty enforce the tier list and have never made any attempt to change it

So are you saying that makes you notable? If so, thats a lie. Remember your C145 rants? You know, the one that failed and you continue to rant on and on about it for that desperate need for attention to be fulfilled in some way? Thats not making an attempt to change anything?

You two really need to stop. This is not even on-topic.

You two really need to stop. This is not even on-topic.

I understand. I wont point any fingers. I'll get back on topic.

So are you saying that makes you notable? If so, thats a lie. Remember your C145 rants? You know, the one that failed and you continue to rant on and on about it for that desperate need for attention to be fulfilled in some way? Thats not making an attempt to change anything?

That was sarcasm Bluezee.

If you're still having issues with each other, take it to PMs. Not everybody (in fact, probably nobody) wants to see a giant arguement again.

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So are you saying that makes you notable? If so, thats a lie. Remember your C145 rants? You know, the one that failed and you continue to rant on and on about it for that desperate need for attention to be fulfilled in some way? Thats not making an attempt to change anything?

That was sarcasm Bluezee.

If you're still having issues with each other, take it to PMs. Not everybody (in fact, probably nobody) wants to see a giant arguement again.

I could have sworn I just told Kai-V I was done so why was this needed? You really didnt even have to comment on it. It's been over but I will assume that you posted right after me.

Hmm. Fyuuor has been using Sagittario's CW on Galaxy in his videos.
Why Sagittario?

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