(May. 09, 2020 11:28 PM)g2_ Wrote: (May. 09, 2020 7:18 PM)Aadi Lui Wrote: Good explanation but we don't have any proof that Valt has outshined and got the better of Lui. There might be indirect references but we can't take that into consideration.
Valt has outshined Lui for sure. It took dark Aiga to beat Valt, Lui lost to regular Aiga. Lui couldn't even beat Valt in Bloody Longinus's debut.
We have some counter from our place as well, Valt never beat Lui, Aiga beat Valt twice. There might be indirect references but we can't prove it unless they have a rematch, which at this stage won't happen as the spotlight is on Hyuga and Hikaru.
(May. 10, 2020 12:54 AM)Zeutron Wrote: (May. 10, 2020 12:44 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: Me personally I think he is. But he’s 1-2 against him so Aiga is technically better.
Your right, but that was in cho z and Valt has grown a lot stronger since then. I think I came off the wrong way by indirectly calling Lui and Free bad characters so I apologize for that. I think Superking is not necessarily all about strength but also about the technical side of beyblade. What I’m saying is that I think there is no “superior” legendary Blader other than Valt and I think it’s honestly about using technique strengths and weaknesses to beat your opponent like s1. This was first showcased when Hikaru used his ten bladed mode and countered ragnaruk when it took the centre due to its outer weight. I think that the bladers will continuously come up with ways to use the legendary bladers specialties against them. This way they can make all the legendary bladers look more equal since they lost because of their weakness. I believe Fafnir will probably hit the stadium wall and burst when it’s loss comes up.
(May. 09, 2020 4:55 PM)Legend Red Eye Wrote: The chronological theory of legendary bladers has a flaw here, when will Lane battle the twins? Because we have seen Lane's bey in the anime. But he was shown in the manga way earlier than the anime. Kind of curious here.
Well that’s where things should get interesting. The first antagonist bey (that means the bey of either the first antagonist before the true antagonist or the first bey of the main antagonist) is released in July and this has happened with Xeno Xcalibur, Legend Spriggan, Revive Phoenix and Venom/Erase Diabolos. I know Xeno Xcalibur was not owned by a villain but you don’t have to be a villain to be an antagonist and Xhaka was a season boss since he used a sword launcher so it counts in the pattern. Fafnir is releasing this month with Longinus coming in June and then guess who is upcoming in July? Lane the seeming antagonist. We know this since his bey was the “top secret” leak after Longinus which means they will be keeping up with the tradition of releasing the antagonist bey in July. Lane will most likely be debuting pretty early in the anime like Phi and Red eye when this is put into consideration.
We still don't have a proof that Valt is better than Aiga, these all are just assumptions as of now, how can you judge people's strength unless they battle each other, tho there are some common methods to find out who's better
Suppose Rantaro is the first pro in Sparking and he lost to the twins lvl 1, now suppose Valt beats twins lvl 1, it makes him stronger than Rantaro but we can't prove this tho it might be right.