Free has also been training during this time and he was already significantly stronger than Ranjiro. And if Drum could bust through that tornado by a relatively stronger blader than Ranjiro (Rantaro) without a special move, than Free could definitely bust through Ranjiro's with one of his most powerful moves that's perfectly suited to the situation with it's high speed and power.

What I'm saying is that Fafnir won't be able to just immediately burst through the Tornado. For a Glide Tornado to even be able to raise up another bey it would have to be sufficiently stronger than anyone we've seen before in the series, meaning Fafnir will have to briefly struggle a bit. During that time Achilles attacks since Dive moves hits pretty fast.

With Nothing Break active he would be able to bust through. That's a high speed power move. Packing a lot of raw power behind it.

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Nothing break unleashes a huge burst of speed and power

What I'm saying is that Fafnir won't be able to just immediately burst through the Tornado. For a Glide Tornado to even be able to raise up another bey it would have to be sufficiently stronger than anyone we've seen before in the series, meaning Fafnir will have to briefly struggle a bit. During that time Achilles attacks since Dive moves hits pretty fast.

With Nothing Break active he would be able to bust through. That's a high speed power move. Packing a lot of raw power behind it.

For a Glide Tornado to carry a bey up in the air, it would have to be the strongest one so far. Before rocketing away Fafnir would have to struggle a bit due to the sheer size and power.

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With Nothing Break active he would be able to bust through. That's a high speed power move. Packing a lot of raw power behind it.

For a Glide Tornado to carry a bey up in the air, it would have to be the strongest one so far. Before rocketing away Fafnir would have to struggle a bit due to the sheer size and power.

Even if that were the case, the burst of speed from nothing break would take it out of range of infinite dive.

For a Glide Tornado to carry a bey up in the air, it would have to be the strongest one so far. Before rocketing away Fafnir would have to struggle a bit due to the sheer size and power.

Even if that were the case, the burst of speed from nothing break would take it out of range of infinite dive.

Dive moves happen very fast. If they didn't, in Rise Dragon would easily be able to dodge them all with charge. That tip has a bunch of metal on it, which makes it so it goes fast.

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A lot of people are really doubting Rantaro and Ranjiro. The may have not been great in previous seasons but the writers aren’t going to casually let them get bodied.

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Not bad eh?

A lot of people are really doubting Rantaro and Ranjiro. The writers aren’t going to casually let them get bodied.

Ranjiro's been training hard after his arm injury. Also, Rantaro has had alot of development on his part too. People sadly sleep on them.

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Even if that were the case, the burst of speed from nothing break would take it out of range of infinite dive.

Dive moves happen very fast. If they didn't, in Rise Dragon would easily be able to dodge them all with charge. That tip has a bunch of metal on it, which makes it so it goes fast.

So is nothing break. The same thing happened when Free and Aiga battled previously. He got hit with Z dive which activated the move and Fafnir blitzed out of range.

Dive moves happen very fast. If they didn't, in Rise Dragon would easily be able to dodge them all with charge. That tip has a bunch of metal on it, which makes it so it goes fast.

So is nothing break. The same thing happened when Free and Aiga battled previously. He got hit with Z dive which activated the move and Fafnir blitzed out of range.

Z Dive is much different from this hypothetical move, where Roktavor uses the strongest Glide Tornado yet to rocket Achilles high up in the air, for it to promptly come crashing down. Achilles will be going fast cause its high up and gravity exists. Also the Tornado in question can keep them in place for long enough so they can get smashed.

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Dive moves happen very fast. If they didn't, in Rise Dragon would easily be able to dodge them all with charge. That tip has a bunch of metal on it, which makes it so it goes fast.

So is nothing break. The same thing happened when Free and Aiga battled previously. He got hit with Z dive which activated the move and Fafnir blitzed out of range.

That didn’t happen though lol. Maybe you are remembering it wrong.

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Not bad eh?

So is nothing break. The same thing happened when Free and Aiga battled previously. He got hit with Z dive which activated the move and Fafnir blitzed out of range.

That didn’t happen though lol. Maybe you are remembering it wrong.

I don't remember it happening either actually, lemme rewatch the battle

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I can confirm that never happened. No dive moves were even used.

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It was hit by Z Breaker and the downward force while being hit pushed down Absorb, very different scenario

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So is nothing break. The same thing happened when Free and Aiga battled previously. He got hit with Z dive which activated the move and Fafnir blitzed out of range.

That didn’t happen though lol. Maybe you are remembering it wrong.

Isn't that how it went down. When Z dive hit Fafnir it blitzed out with Absorb Break.

That didn’t happen though lol. Maybe you are remembering it wrong.

Isn't that how it went down. When Z dive hit Fafnir it blitzed out with Absorb Break.

[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]It was hit by Z Breaker and the downward force while being hit pushed down Absorb, very different scenario[/font]

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That didn’t happen though lol. Maybe you are remembering it wrong.

Isn't that how it went down. When Z dive hit Fafnir it blitzed out with Absorb Break.

No it was the dead crush.

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Not bad eh?

You're saying that Fafnir would dash out before being hit at all

So is nothing break. The same thing happened when Free and Aiga battled previously. He got hit with Z dive which activated the move and Fafnir blitzed out of range.

Z Dive is much different from this hypothetical move, where Roktavor uses the strongest Glide Tornado yet to rocket Achilles high up in the air, for it to promptly come crashing down. Achilles will be going fast cause its high up and gravity exists. Also the Tornado in question can keep them in place for long enough so they can get smashed.

Z Dive and this hypothetical infinite dive operate under the same principle. Both would activate nothing break. Which would cause that speed boost. The tornado would also have enough room within to where Fafnir would be out of range.

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Isn't that how it went down. When Z dive hit Fafnir it blitzed out with Absorb Break.

No it was the dead crush.

I just watched the battle. That is what happened.

I guess Fafnir and Satan could use their Drift and Break moves to escape but you have to understand that they aren’t just getting hit by “some” move. They are basically getting hit by a full powered double attack the same way Valkyrie boosted Hyperion. It could also end in a knockout 🤷‍♂️

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Not bad eh?

Isn't that how it went down. When Z dive hit Fafnir it blitzed out with Absorb Break.

[font="Source Sans Pro", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]It was hit by Z Breaker and the downward force while being hit pushed down Absorb, very different scenario[/font]

Just watched it again. It was Z Dive. Turbo episode 25.

Z Dive is much different from this hypothetical move, where Roktavor uses the strongest Glide Tornado yet to rocket Achilles high up in the air, for it to promptly come crashing down. Achilles will be going fast cause its high up and gravity exists. Also the Tornado in question can keep them in place for long enough so they can get smashed.

Z Dive and this hypothetical infinite dive operate under the same principle. Both would activate nothing break. Which would cause that speed boost. The tornado would also have enough room within to where Fafnir would be out of range.

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No it was the dead crush.

I just watched the battle. That is what happened.

Are you sure? Becuase Eclipse Force also says he watched the episode. Hmm now that I think about it I do seem tor remember him using z dive.

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Not bad eh?

Z Dive and this hypothetical infinite dive operate under the same principle. Both would activate nothing break. Which would cause that speed boost. The tornado would also have enough room within to where Fafnir would be out of range.

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I just watched the battle. That is what happened.

Are you sure? Becuase Eclipse Force also says he watched the episode.

Positive. Just watched it.

Are you sure? Becuase Eclipse Force also says he watched the episode.

Positive. Just watched it.

Ahh ok thanks for correcting me but even then, they’re getting hit by a full powered tag move so it makes sense that Free and Silas won’t be able to use their break or drift moves to escape. It’s just like that time Valt boosted Hyperion. Maybe they can just get knocked out instead.

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Not bad eh?

Positive. Just watched it.

Ahh ok thanks for correcting me but even then, they’re getting hit by a full powered tag move so it makes sense that Free and Silas won’t be able to use their break or drift moves to escape. It’s just like that time Valt boosted Hyperion.

I could perhaps understand Satomb. But the force of that strike would probably activate Nothing break even quicker giving a immediate boost of speed and power facilitating the escape for Fafnir. The move kinda feeds the other move.

Ahh ok thanks for correcting me but even then, they’re getting hit by a full powered tag move so it makes sense that Free and Silas won’t be able to use their break or drift moves to escape. It’s just like that time Valt boosted Hyperion.

I could perhaps understand Satomb. But the force of that strike would probably activate Nothing break even quicker giving a immediate boost of speed facilitating the escape for Fafnir. The move kinda feeds the other move.

Alright how about this: Instead of the dive thing, when Ranjiro is getting forced to the edge he activates the tornado sending Satan flying into Fafnir. Satan having sustained instense damage from both the tornado and collision with Fafnir ends up bursting while Fafnir has been left weakened. Achilles comes in for a head on impact and uses infinite sword hitting Fafnir ultimately bursting it.

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Not bad eh?

Yeah I dont think the writers will actually do a diving move

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I could perhaps understand Satomb. But the force of that strike would probably activate Nothing break even quicker giving a immediate boost of speed facilitating the escape for Fafnir. The move kinda feeds the other move.

Alright how about this: Instead of the dive thing, when Ranjiro is getting forced to the edge he activates the tornado sending Satan flying into Fafnir. Satan having sustained instense damage from both the tornado and collision with Fafnir ends up bursting while Fafnir has been left weakened. Achilles comes in for a head on impact and uses infinite sword hitting Fafnir ultimately bursting it.

That makes more sense to me. I'd even have Fafnir be partially wobbling at that point to really sell it.

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That didn’t happen though lol. Maybe you are remembering it wrong.

I don't remember it happening either actually, lemme rewatch the battle

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I can confirm that never happened. No dive moves were even used.

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It was hit by Z Breaker and the downward force while being hit pushed down Absorb, very different scenario

Rewatch it. That's is what happened. Their second battle in the episode.

I think people should be more worried of the fact Lucifer The End is gonna bomb Helios and Hyperion

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