Beyblade Burst DB Anime and Manga discussion

(Jun. 17, 2021  11:27 PM)Instarez Wrote:
(Jun. 17, 2021  11:24 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I'm not saying Bell isn't going to battle Basara. That much is a given. The new Balkesh that Basara is getting makes that all but a guarantee, what I'm pointing out to you is, the anime usually strays from the manga in significant ways; in how certain events play out or wether certain events take place at all. It may not happen the way the manga depicted it. I wouldn't be surprised if it differs drastically. The same with the Devil's Blade.

The Devil Blade was never meant to be anything special, it probably won't appear in the anime. It's literally a recolor. It's an easy promo item, and they just made a special chapter to advertise it. It doesn't have to be relevant, and it's probably not cannon.

Either way, you still haven't answered my question. Just because it happened with unrelated seasons isn't really a convincing answer. With all of the foreshadowing, there's no reason this moment wouldn't happen

If a precedent has been set, it makes sense to consider that. There's a precedent set of events not playing out in the anime as they do in the manga. We see this time and again. Bell and Basara are sure to battle, but the lead up to that battle is likely to be different from the manga.
(Jun. 17, 2021  11:38 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Jun. 17, 2021  11:27 PM)Instarez Wrote: The Devil Blade was never meant to be anything special, it probably won't appear in the anime. It's literally a recolor. It's an easy promo item, and they just made a special chapter to advertise it. It doesn't have to be relevant, and it's probably not cannon.

Either way, you still haven't answered my question. Just because it happened with unrelated seasons isn't really a convincing answer. With all of the foreshadowing, there's no reason this moment wouldn't happen

If a precedent has been set, it makes sense to consider that. There's a precedent set of events not playing out in the anime as they do in the manga. We see this time and again. Bell and Basara are sure to battle, but the lead up to that battle is likely to be different from the manga.

You can't just assume this same rule applies for every single event over the course of the entire season, because this is blatantly false. Time and time again: if you want to talk surge the majority of it was adapted.
Hyperion and Helios Arc: Yes
Rankings Arc: Yes
BC Sol Arc: Yes
Lain and Lui Arc: Somewhat
Hikaru and Hyuga vs Lain: Yes
Shu vs Lain: Yes
Limit Break Arc: Somewhat
Shu vs Lain Rematch: Yes
Hikaru vs Lain: No
Hyuga vs Lain: Somewhat

40% of all major events have been done without major alterations. That's not even half.

GT
Ace Dragon Arc: Mostly
Fumiya Arc: Yes
Drum vs Lodin: Yes
Drum vs Delta: Yes
Drum vs Pot: Yes
Battle Island: Yes
Drum and Delta vs Aiga: Somewhat
Imperial Dragon Arc: Yes
Gwyn vs Amane: Yes
Drum vs Blindt: Yes
Hell vs Victories: Mostly

25%, the lowest we've gotten.

Cho-Z
Z Achilles Arc: Yes
Beigoma Academy Arc: Yes
Lui Arc: Yes
Aiga vs Houi: Yes
Aiga vs Phi: Somewhat
Aiga vs Xavier: Yes
Aiga vs Free: Somewhat
Aiga vs Valt: No
Aiga vs Shu: Mostly
Aiga vs Evel: Yes
Aiga vs Phi: Mostly
Aiga vs Valt: Yes

25% yet again.

God
BC Sol Arc: Yes
Valt vs Wakiya: Yes
European League Arc: Yes
Red Eye Arc: Yes
Valt vs Joshua: Yes
Joshua vs Shu: No
World League Arc: Yes

14%, even lower. Joshua vs Shu wasn't even that important compared to other things.

Burst
District Tournament Arc: Yes
Local Tournament Arc: Yes
Nationals Arc: Yes

0%, yahoo.

As you can see, these rates are extremely low. The chance of it happening ever is very low, and even then the times they greatly change the content of the stuff they're adapting is VERY low.
(Jun. 18, 2021  12:15 AM)Instarez Wrote:
(Jun. 17, 2021  11:38 PM)Admiral W Wrote: If a precedent has been set, it makes sense to consider that. There's a precedent set of events not playing out in the anime as they do in the manga. We see this time and again. Bell and Basara are sure to battle, but the lead up to that battle is likely to be different from the manga.

You can't just assume this same rule applies for every single event over the course of the entire season, because this is blatantly false. Time and time again: if you want to talk surge the majority of it was adapted.
Hyperion and Helios Arc: Yes
Rankings Arc: Yes
BC Sol Arc: Yes
Lain and Lui Arc: Somewhat
Hikaru and Hyuga vs Lain: Yes
Shu vs Lain: Yes
Limit Break Arc: Somewhat
Shu vs Lain Rematch: Yes
Hikaru vs Lain: No
Hyuga vs Lain: Somewhat

40% of all major events have been done without major alterations. That's not even half.

GT
Ace Dragon Arc: Mostly
Fumiya Arc: Yes
Drum vs Lodin: Yes
Drum vs Delta: Yes
Drum vs Pot: Yes
Battle Island: Yes
Drum and Delta vs Aiga: Somewhat
Imperial Dragon Arc: Yes
Gwyn vs Amane: Yes
Drum vs Blindt: Yes
Hell vs Victories: Mostly

25%, the lowest we've gotten.

Cho-Z
Z Achilles Arc: Yes
Beigoma Academy Arc: Yes
Lui Arc: Yes
Aiga vs Houi: Yes
Aiga vs Phi: Somewhat
Aiga vs Xavier: Yes
Aiga vs Free: Somewhat
Aiga vs Valt: No
Aiga vs Shu: Mostly
Aiga vs Evel: Yes
Aiga vs Phi: Mostly
Aiga vs Valt: Yes

25% yet again.

God
BC Sol Arc: Yes
Valt vs Wakiya: Yes
European League Arc: Yes
Red Eye Arc: Yes
Valt vs Joshua: Yes
Joshua vs Shu: No
World League Arc: Yes

14%, even lower. Joshua vs Shu wasn't even that important compared to other things.

Burst
District Tournament Arc: Yes
Local Tournament Arc: Yes
Nationals Arc: Yes

0%, yahoo.

As you can see, these rates are extremely low. The chance of it happening ever is very low, and even then the times they greatly change the content of the stuff they're adapting is VERY low.
I think you may be misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm pointing out that how things are depicted usually end up being different from the manga. Using that Red Eye arc for example, how Valt found out Shu was Red Eye was different than what was depicted in the anime. As I said, I'm sure Bell will battle Basara and the new Balkesh, but how we get to that battle is likely to be different. Mostly all those events you mentioned were different in how certain things were depicted. The ending of Sparking for example was very different. How Aiger's bond with Achilles was broken and it's explanation was different, the events leading up to Aiger's first title match with Valt was different. A lot of things tend to change between the two mediums.
(Jun. 18, 2021  12:27 AM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Jun. 18, 2021  12:15 AM)Instarez Wrote: You can't just assume this same rule applies for every single event over the course of the entire season, because this is blatantly false. Time and time again: if you want to talk surge the majority of it was adapted.
Hyperion and Helios Arc: Yes
Rankings Arc: Yes
BC Sol Arc: Yes
Lain and Lui Arc: Somewhat
Hikaru and Hyuga vs Lain: Yes
Shu vs Lain: Yes
Limit Break Arc: Somewhat
Shu vs Lain Rematch: Yes
Hikaru vs Lain: No
Hyuga vs Lain: Somewhat

40% of all major events have been done without major alterations. That's not even half.

GT
Ace Dragon Arc: Mostly
Fumiya Arc: Yes
Drum vs Lodin: Yes
Drum vs Delta: Yes
Drum vs Pot: Yes
Battle Island: Yes
Drum and Delta vs Aiga: Somewhat
Imperial Dragon Arc: Yes
Gwyn vs Amane: Yes
Drum vs Blindt: Yes
Hell vs Victories: Mostly

25%, the lowest we've gotten.

Cho-Z
Z Achilles Arc: Yes
Beigoma Academy Arc: Yes
Lui Arc: Yes
Aiga vs Houi: Yes
Aiga vs Phi: Somewhat
Aiga vs Xavier: Yes
Aiga vs Free: Somewhat
Aiga vs Valt: No
Aiga vs Shu: Mostly
Aiga vs Evel: Yes
Aiga vs Phi: Mostly
Aiga vs Valt: Yes

25% yet again.

God
BC Sol Arc: Yes
Valt vs Wakiya: Yes
European League Arc: Yes
Red Eye Arc: Yes
Valt vs Joshua: Yes
Joshua vs Shu: No
World League Arc: Yes

14%, even lower. Joshua vs Shu wasn't even that important compared to other things.

Burst
District Tournament Arc: Yes
Local Tournament Arc: Yes
Nationals Arc: Yes

0%, yahoo.

As you can see, these rates are extremely low. The chance of it happening ever is very low, and even then the times they greatly change the content of the stuff they're adapting is VERY low.
I think you may be misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm pointing out that how things are depicted usually end up being different from the manga. Using that Red Eye arc for example, how Valt found out Shu was Red Eye was different than what was depicted in the anime. As I said, I'm sure Bell will battle Basara and the new Balkesh, but how we get to that battle is likely to be different. Mostly all those events you mentioned were different in how certain things were depicted. The ending of Sparking for example was very different. How Aiger's bond with Achilles was broken and it's explanation was different, the events leading up to Aiger's first title match with Valt was different. A lot of things tend to change between the two mediums.

The only part about Red Eye that was different is that them getting to the temple was a page long montage. Everything else was the exact same, up to the shadow beys. Either way you still haven’t given me a proper reason besides the fact that they’re sometimes different, which we shouldn’t have to worry about since 

There’s not any reason to consider that rule anymore.
(Jun. 18, 2021  12:57 AM)Instarez Wrote:
(Jun. 18, 2021  12:27 AM)Admiral W Wrote: I think you may be misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm pointing out that how things are depicted usually end up being different from the manga. Using that Red Eye arc for example, how Valt found out Shu was Red Eye was different than what was depicted in the anime. As I said, I'm sure Bell will battle Basara and the new Balkesh, but how we get to that battle is likely to be different. Mostly all those events you mentioned were different in how certain things were depicted. The ending of Sparking for example was very different. How Aiger's bond with Achilles was broken and it's explanation was different, the events leading up to Aiger's first title match with Valt was different. A lot of things tend to change between the two mediums.

The only part about Red Eye that was different is that them getting to the temple was a page long montage. Everything else was the exact same, up to the shadow beys. Either way you still haven’t given me a proper reason besides the fact that they’re sometimes different, which we shouldn’t have to worry about since 

There’s not any reason to consider that rule anymore.

I'm talking about Red Eye's reveal which was different to how it happened in the manga. And it isn't sometimes different, a lot of the times it's different. Again as I mentioned, a precedent has been set. And as has happened many times in the past, the lead up is likely to be different as has been the case with other major battles. In either event we will see soon enough how they handle it.
This likely wont happen in the anime Instarez for the simple reason that Basara is at BC sol when he upgrades solomon. Its as simple as that. Regarding the major plot points of the anime and manga... they are almost the same. However I personally agree with Admiral W, in the sense that the manga and anime approach those plot are different.
(Jun. 17, 2021  8:30 PM)TitanDragon Wrote:
(Jun. 17, 2021  7:40 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: Well it will suprass Valkyrie, Spriggan and Longinus imo. I guess that in episode 14, Valt will show power of Savior Valkyrie and will defeat Rashad, while Rashad will have a bad resonance with Valkyrie, since original not his, so it will remind same situation as with Aiga in manga, but no destruction and Rashad will get mad. He will evolve his bey and will train to take Valt's Valkyrie, to make another DB bey like Phi make Dead Phoenix. Kinda like that
Are you saying that Rashad will merge Valtryek with his own bey like Phi did with Hades? That’s a bit of a stretch. Merging Valtryek of all beys?! Come on. That would sideline Valt for at least the remainder of the season if Burst went to season 7. I think Valtryek is the last bey the creators want to do merging with
Maybe he will recreate Valkyrie. It doesn't mean that if his Valkyrie stolen, he will just stand and nothing do

(Jun. 17, 2021  10:34 PM)Instarez Wrote: My Corocoro came early. Here are the summaries for Chapter 4 and the Devil Blader Special Chapter. Spoilers as always.

Special Chapter:

Bell Arc Chapter 4:

Devil blade chapter: Well I expected that it will be like this, since it's special chapter. 
Basara Arc: Well school part was Kinda boring for me, they just use more pages just for fun, I expected more from Hiro fantasy. But battle is awesome. Basara got new shoot form that is cool, plus he really trained to get better. Kinda sad that he not win, but I am happy that he evolves not just sitting.

(Jun. 17, 2021  10:58 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Jun. 17, 2021  10:55 PM)Instarez Wrote: Yeah, but they've been specifically building up to this event in the start, with Basara staring at Solomon while sitting at his desk.

I'm not saying it's won't happen, just pointing out that there's a fair bit of possibility that it won't. As another example, in the manga, it was Valt that destroyed Z Achilles, not Phi. Another example, the Ultimate Tag Series doesn't take place in the manga. It's exclusive to the anime.
I wonder why he just decide to evolve in manga, like no one not destroyed him
(Jun. 18, 2021  3:13 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: This likely wont happen in the anime Instarez for the simple reason that Basara is at BC sol when he upgrades solomon. Its as simple as that. Regarding the major plot points of the anime and manga... they are almost the same. However I personally agree with Admiral W, in the sense that the manga and anime approach those plot are different.

A simple location change doesn't mean that a battle cannot happen. BC Sol literally is a blading school and team, there are stadium's everywhere. There's no reason just because they're at BC Sol, it is then impossible for it to happen. You're literally saying this chapter will not happen. Meaning he can't make Roar Bahamut, battle Bell, or get character development. That doesn't even make any sense, of course he can. Every major event happens.
It's been a while! How is everyone? I returned to see how the beyblade community was doing. Been enjoying the Pokemon Anime myself but I wanted to ask is Beyblade Burst DB worth watching? I really look forward to an honest review thanks.
(Jun. 20, 2021  6:28 AM)Legend Red Eye Wrote: It's been a while! How is everyone? I returned to see how the beyblade community was doing. Been enjoying the Pokemon Anime myself but I wanted to ask is Beyblade Burst DB worth watching? I really look forward to an honest review thanks.

Hi; long time no see. Personally I would recommend watching DB as so far its pretty nice. ( though i would recommend watching the subbed Version as a lot of important dialogue is present). The main character is not a novice and is pretty skilled and the best thing is that he always uses strategy to win; not some BS like Lean or Hyuga and Hikaru. Hope to see you soon in the anime Threads
Hehe. Basara will lose by slow motion burst
Simple plot predictions:
Bell fights Valt on the new stadium, and loses. Basara is helped by a member of BC Sol and makes his own bey.

Basara fights Bell, letting out his true feelings and all. In the end Bell wins, making Basara sad. He says he wanted to outshine Bell but couldn't and felt as if his whole time trying to build himself as a blader was wasted. Bell welcomes him as a rival, hoping Basara will be able to provide a big challenge to him one day.

The DB gang has left for Japan. Rashad fights Valt because he wants to be recognized by Valt as someone on the same level. Valt takes the challenge and beats Rashad. Rashad finds his resolve. He realizes he was actually always jealous of Valt so he decides to find a place to make a DB Bey to true and be utterly and completely better than him. However he doesn't make it at BC Sol cause then Valt could see his bey and form a counter strategy.
(Jun. 20, 2021  11:52 PM)Instarez Wrote: Simple plot predictions:
Bell fights Valt on the new stadium, and loses. Basara is helped by a member of BC Sol and makes his own bey.

Basara fights Bell, letting out his true feelings and all. In the end Bell wins, making Basara sad. He says he wanted to outshine Bell but couldn't and felt as if his whole time trying to build himself as a blader was wasted. Bell welcomes him as a rival, hoping Basara will be able to provide a big challenge to him one day.

The DB gang has left for Japan. Rashad fights Valt because he wants to be recognized by Valt as someone on the same level. Valt takes the challenge and beats Rashad. Rashad finds his resolve. He realizes he was actually always jealous of Valt so he decides to find a place to make a DB Bey to true and be utterly and completely better than him. However he doesn't make it at BC Sol cause then Valt could see his bey and form a counter strategy.

I guess he will leave BC Sol, and create somewhere his bey. After when he will see more of Valt's fighting, he want to took Valt's Valkyrie
Looks like I'm right so far. The preview looks good, I recognize scenes from the manga. I think we all knew this battle would happen, but it's nice each adaption has been on point so far. Around this time is when Sparking started deviating from the Manga.
After seeing the latest episode Rashad is acting kinda suspicious ex he is acting semi aggressive and suggesting basara to abandon death solomon which this act often relates to villainous person like astem aka Alexander which lead me to a believe that soon or later he will get a fallout becoming a villain or sorts maybe after valt beats him.
(Jun. 26, 2021  1:45 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: After seeing the latest episode Rashad is acting kinda suspicious ex he is acting semi aggressive and suggesting basara to abandon death solomon which this act often relates to villainous person like astem aka Alexander which lead me to a believe that soon or later he will get a fallout becoming a villain or sorts maybe after valt beats him.

I was just thinking about that. When Rashad was training with Valtryek before he found Bell spying on him, I got this dark feeling just from the music. And to convince Basara to make Balkesh by ABANDONING Solomon on top of that make question one thing: is he truly wanting to fight with Valtryek? Or is he trying to oust Valt of his title as world champion and wants to take the role in a tyrannical attitude like Arthur. I wonder if he is planning to make his Valtryek the new powerhouse of the world. All of this seems rambling, but this what I am trying to say: Rashad’s hiding something from everyone
(Jun. 26, 2021  1:45 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: After seeing the latest episode Rashad is acting kinda suspicious ex he is acting semi aggressive and suggesting basara to abandon death solomon which this act often relates to villainous person like astem aka Alexander which lead me to a believe that soon or later he will get a fallout becoming a villain or sorts maybe after valt beats him.

Basara should have a bey he has a stronger bond with, but I still feel like Rashad is pretty suspicious. I wonder what his motives are.
(Jun. 26, 2021  2:45 PM)Instarez Wrote:
(Jun. 26, 2021  1:45 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: After seeing the latest episode Rashad is acting kinda suspicious ex he is acting semi aggressive and suggesting basara to abandon death solomon which this act often relates to villainous person like astem aka Alexander which lead me to a believe that soon or later he will get a fallout becoming a villain or sorts maybe after valt beats him.

Basara should have a bey he has a stronger bond with, but I still feel like Rashad is pretty suspicious. I wonder what his motives are.

Did you noticed he hasn’t been the “give me a hug” and cheered up guy we first saw since Bell lost to Free the first time? After he revealed his Valtryek, he’s been showing a completely different personality
(Jun. 26, 2021  2:48 PM)TitanDragon Wrote:
(Jun. 26, 2021  2:45 PM)Instarez Wrote: Basara should have a bey he has a stronger bond with, but I still feel like Rashad is pretty suspicious. I wonder what his motives are.

Did you noticed he hasn’t been the “give me a hug” and cheered up guy we first saw since Bell lost to Free the first time? After he revealed his Valtryek, he’s been showing a completely different personality

I suppose he's now dead set on getting Valt's approval, like his summary said. Apparently he isn't close enough to Valt to call him his full first name yet.
(Jun. 26, 2021  2:51 PM)Instarez Wrote:
(Jun. 26, 2021  2:48 PM)TitanDragon Wrote: Did you noticed he hasn’t been the “give me a hug” and cheered up guy we first saw since Bell lost to Free the first time? After he revealed his Valtryek, he’s been showing a completely different personality

I suppose he's now dead set on getting Valt's approval, like his summary said. Apparently he isn't close enough to Valt to call him his full first name yet.

I will not be surprised if he evolves Valtryek into a completely new bey that is a darker counterpart. Remember when Lain was dissatisfied with First Uranus, he went forward to evolve it into Vex Lucius? Watch this happen again
In the second to last battle of the season, someone should say this to bell before his final battle before that person is defeated: long live the king
(Jun. 27, 2021  4:56 PM)TitanDragon Wrote: In the second to last battle of the season, someone should say this to bell before his final battle before that person is defeated: long live the king

That would be awesome XD
Bell's birthday is this Thursday aka July 1st
Well Rashad is both right and not right. Bahamut is better than Solomon since Basara in episode 15 will have more resonance. But how he says to Basara :" Throw your bey away". He technically make another Red Eye just by saying throw your bey away. Either he didn't throw his bey