Are All Beyblade Retailers Honest With Their Blind Boosters?

This post is not about Mall of Toys with whom I have had only positive experiences. Beys & Bricks has also been pretty good to me (though hardly as good as I've been to them!).

I have opened nine - NINE - of the Vol. 26 Blind Booster trying to land a black Roar Bahamut Giga Moment-10. I do already have a Roar Bahamut Gg.Mm-10 - the violet one that came in B-190 assembled with parts from other beys - but I am a completionist and want all the colorways, especially those from the DB series. Nearly every site is sold out of the boosters, but I was able to find one that still had them, and I've been ordering three at a time, hoping each time to land the prize.

I just opened the latest shipment of three (which has brought me to 9 opened in total) and once again am left Bahamut-less. Odds were decent enough I wouldn't pull it from those first three, and maybe only slightly in favor of pulling one from the second three, but I really thought this last lot would have it.

In the card-collecting hobby there are those we call "pack searchers" who use subversive means to determine which packs/boosters/boxes have the best stuff inside. They do things like bring digital scales into Target with them and weight the packs, bend the packs to find those with more rigidity (damaging all the other cards in the process), etc. Pack searchers are generally despised among card-collectors.

Now, I hope this is not the case, but I suspect it would be easy for retailers with large inventories of boosters to determine the precise weight of those boosters that contain the prize beys and separate those out from the rest to sell for triple or quadruple the normal price, then also sell the remaining boosters at full price, giving false hope to the buyer that they have a shot at the prize bey. Again, I do hope I'm wrong here.

Again I am super cool with Mall of Toys, and I know for a fact that Beys & Bricks doesn't do this as I pulled the prize Cyclone Ragnaruk from a Vol. 25 booster myself having bought only three boosters. I don't want to say the name of this other retailer, but after this experience I don't think I'll be doing any business with them again. Their prices are higher than everyone else's, anyway, even after coupon codes.

I'm only making this post because as a noob to this hobby, I have to wonder if I'm just discovering this and it's is already well-known among long-time bladers or if my luck is just that bad. 

TLGrinR: Has anyone pulled a Roar Bahamut Gg.Mm-10 from a Vol. 26 blind booster purchased from an online retailer other than MoT or B&B?
Who did you buy it from? Some sellers are legitimate and don't do such things but some do. Also the chance of getting the prize bey is 1/8 but sometimes your luck is bad and you don't get it. Once I brought 3 and got the same thing (from Toys R Us)
If seller has different item for confirmed prize bey at triple price, you know what to expect for real "random" pack.

I didn't buy randoms a lot (probably less than 10 times), but always avoided such sellers. On the other hand, I did buy confirmed ones from them often.

For random pack I'm trying to find big store's online shop (with 50k items, or so), where workers have no idea they can take prize beyblades out, and aren't ordered to do it.


Not a lot of experience, I know, just way of thinking.
Got prize once, Fusion Hades from metal series, long ago.



Who wants to get all, usually buys whole set of 8 (or 6 lately).
(Oct. 15, 2021  10:32 AM)GreaterLonginus Wrote: Who did you buy it from? Some sellers are legitimate and don't do such things but some do. Also the chance of getting the prize bey is 1/8 but sometimes your luck is bad and you don't get it. Once I brought 3 and got the same thing (from Toys R Us)

I don't want to be accusatory just in case it really is just a case of bad luck. It's certainly in the realm of possibility to go 0-for-9 on something with 1-in-6 odds.

(Oct. 15, 2021  11:35 AM)iiggoor Wrote: If seller has different item for confirmed prize bey at triple price, you know what to expect for real "random" pack.

I didn't buy randoms a lot (probably less than 10 times), but always avoided such sellers. On the other hand, I did buy confirmed ones from them often.

For random pack I'm trying to find big store's online shop (with 50k items, or so), where workers have no idea they can take prize beyblades out, and aren't ordered to do it.


Not a lot of experience, I know, just way of thinking.
Got prize once, Fusion Hades from metal series, long ago.



Who wants to get all, usually buys whole set of 8 (or 6 lately).
I may just do that next time.
check the tape. the only time ive ever noticed it was a random ebay seller for the dynamite valkyrie (where you could get rashad's rare red one) .... it was a really good price and i didn't really care since i'd prefer just the normal blue one, but i could tell there was one layer that very specific thin tape that had been cut with an exacto blade then another piece of tape overlaid. its not normal scotch tape, its very very thin. im assuming a devious seller could figure out what type of tape it is and carefully cut the tape, check the contents, then re-tape. any normal buyer most likely would never notice. it was really hard for me to notice but i used a bit of steam and a razor blade to take the first piece of tape off and low and behold, there was another piece cut along the side corner of the box.

it was annoying that i found them out, but in the end i didn't think it worth my time or energy to persue the matter since i got the valkyrie for a good price.
Just about all retailers open their boxes to check for the rare pulls. It sycks but for the most part it cant be helped. I mean some sites sell specific models only found in blind boosters so it seems to be be the only way to reliably tell which model it is. If youre spending that amount of money you can always purchase a full set of a particular model that way you can guarentee you will get the base set wirhout as many repeats. Others have explained it better but yeah that seems to be the only other than buying whatever youre lokming for on ebay. Im on mercari alot and theres a couple people sellling rhe recolor of world spriggan and jet wyvern chasis. Its kind of a carp shoot lol
(Oct. 18, 2021  10:51 PM)LoneStarBlader Wrote: Just about all retailers open their boxes to check for the rare pulls. It sycks but for the most part it cant be helped. I mean some sites sell specific models only found in blind boosters so it seems to be be the only way to reliably tell which model it is. If youre spending that amount of money you can always purchase a full set of a particular model that way you can guarentee you will get the base set wirhout as many repeats. Others have explained it better but yeah that seems to be the only other than buying whatever youre lokming for on ebay. Im on mercari alot and theres a couple people sellling rhe recolor of world spriggan and jet wyvern chasis. Its kind of a carp shoot lol

I did pull the prize from a Vol 25 booster bought from Beys and Bricks. I picked up three boosters and it was in the third one. I think they're probably alright...
I don’t really get what you’re asking or trying to find here but sometimes you can just get really unlucky lol. There’s 6 beys in a booster with the prize bey being the hardest to get so most of the time with the ideal amount of luck you’d have to get maybe like 7-8 pulls to get the 5 other beys and maybe some extras and finally get the prize. There are other options to just get the prize guaranteed but it’s way more expensive. Like 70$+ more expensive. Looks like this time with 9 pulls you just got really unlucky. Maybe wait for a bit and buy another 3 pulls. That should give you what you need.
(Oct. 15, 2021  1:23 AM)n00bBeybladeDad Wrote: TLGrinR: Has anyone pulled a Roar Bahamut Gg.Mm-10 from a Vol. 26 blind booster purchased from an online retailer other than MoT or B&B?


https://four-gaming.com/blogs/news/under...lade-parts


Here's an article that dips into the topic a little.
(Oct. 19, 2021  9:55 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: I don’t really get what you’re asking or trying to find here but sometimes you can just get really unlucky lol. There’s 6 beys in a booster with the prize bey being the hardest to get so most of the time with the ideal amount of luck you’d have to get maybe like 7-8 pulls to get the 5 other beys and maybe some extras and finally get the prize. There are other options to just get the prize guaranteed but it’s way more expensive. Like 70$+ more expensive. Looks like this time with 9 pulls you just got really unlucky. Maybe wait for a bit and buy another 3 pulls. That should give you what you need.

I already picked up the RB in the aftermarket (and paid for it by selling the duplicate beys I had pulled), but I was asking to see if it is generally known among bladers (of which I am new) which retailers are more likely to have searched the boosters. As in "Don't buy your boosters from so-and-so, they search them before they sell them." It's no big deal if not, I was just wondering due to my tremendously bad luck.

Again, I know B&B is one of the honest ones as I've gotten the prize from them before after buying only three boosters.

(Oct. 19, 2021  10:10 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote:
(Oct. 15, 2021  1:23 AM)n00bBeybladeDad Wrote: TLGrinR: Has anyone pulled a Roar Bahamut Gg.Mm-10 from a Vol. 26 blind booster purchased from an online retailer other than MoT or B&B?


https://four-gaming.com/blogs/news/under...lade-parts


Here's an article that dips into the topic a little.

Good article - glad to hear a seller address the issue...
Odd that getting a prize bey is that hard. Most people just get full sets (it's cheaper than buying many packs & not getting what you want.) Unlike pokemon booster packs, I am fine getting all 6 beys.
(Oct. 19, 2021  9:42 PM)n00bBeybladeDad Wrote:
(Oct. 18, 2021  10:51 PM)LoneStarBlader Wrote: Just about all retailers open their boxes to check for the rare pulls. It sycks but for the most part it cant be helped. I mean some sites sell specific models only found in blind boosters so it seems to be be the only way to reliably tell which model it is. If youre spending that amount of money you can always purchase a full set of a particular model that way you can guarentee you will get the base set wirhout as many repeats. Others have explained it better but yeah that seems to be the only other than buying whatever youre lokming for on ebay. Im on mercari alot and theres a couple people sellling rhe recolor of world spriggan and jet wyvern chasis. Its kind of a carp shoot lol

I did pull the prize from a Vol 25 booster bought from Beys and Bricks. I picked up three boosters and it was in the third one. I think they're probably alright...

I'm not saying beys and bricks isn't honest them mall of toys and everwish are the sites I trust. However all of these sites sell the rare pull beys. There is no other way to obtain these other than checking the boxes. If you look on their inventory list they do sell them I'm not saying that they open them and then keep all of the prize Beyblades and rare recolors for individual sale but they do keep a few of them. I mean you can look on their inventory and see. Honest about those blind boosters man you have a 1 in 8 shot and technically probability suggest that if you buy eight boxes you're going to get one of the best Beyblades. And sometimes luck is just like that man you know when you hit the casinos I mean menu you come up good and some hands and other hands he busts kind of just luck of the draw man it sucks but that's gambling for you. I mean you could buy a bunch of boxes men get a Halo death Scyther in one of them or you could spend like eighty or a hundred bucks and just buy it outright. Same way with roar bahamut he's going for what about 80ish give or take if you buy him individually
(Oct. 22, 2021  8:57 PM)LoneStarBlader Wrote:
(Oct. 19, 2021  9:42 PM)n00bBeybladeDad Wrote: I did pull the prize from a Vol 25 booster bought from Beys and Bricks. I picked up three boosters and it was in the third one. I think they're probably alright...

I'm not saying beys and bricks isn't honest them mall of toys and everwish are the sites I trust. However all of these sites sell the rare pull beys. There is no other way to obtain these other than checking the boxes. If you look on their inventory list they do sell them I'm not saying that they open them and then keep all of the prize Beyblades and rare recolors for individual sale but they do keep a few of them. I mean you can look on their inventory and see. Honest about those blind boosters man you have a 1 in 8 shot and technically probability suggest that if you buy eight boxes you're going to get one of the best Beyblades. And sometimes luck is just like that man you know when you hit the casinos I mean menu you come up good and some hands and other hands he busts kind of just luck of the draw man it sucks but that's gambling for you. I mean you could buy a bunch of boxes men get a Halo death Scyther in one of them or you could spend like eighty or a hundred bucks and just buy it outright. Same way with roar bahamut he's going for what about 80ish give or take if you buy him individually

You're right, but they do also have all the non-prize beys in their inventory. Maybe they open a certain number just to be able to sell the known beys individually. Heck, they might even open a few dozen, or hundred, just to fill that inventory. So long as they leave the remaining stock unsearched I'll be happy.
(Oct. 23, 2021  3:01 PM)n00bBeybladeDad Wrote:
(Oct. 22, 2021  8:57 PM)LoneStarBlader Wrote: I'm not saying beys and bricks isn't honest them mall of toys and everwish are the sites I trust. However all of these sites sell the rare pull beys. There is no other way to obtain these other than checking the boxes. If you look on their inventory list they do sell them I'm not saying that they open them and then keep all of the prize Beyblades and rare recolors for individual sale but they do keep a few of them. I mean you can look on their inventory and see. Honest about those blind boosters man you have a 1 in 8 shot and technically probability suggest that if you buy eight boxes you're going to get one of the best Beyblades. And sometimes luck is just like that man you know when you hit the casinos I mean menu you come up good and some hands and other hands he busts kind of just luck of the draw man it sucks but that's gambling for you. I mean you could buy a bunch of boxes men get a Halo death Scyther in one of them or you could spend like eighty or a hundred bucks and just buy it outright. Same way with roar bahamut he's going for what about 80ish give or take if you buy him individually

You're right, but they do also have all the non-prize beys in their inventory. Maybe they open a certain number just to be able to sell the known beys individually. Heck, they might even open a few dozen, or hundred, just to fill that inventory. So long as they leave the remaining stock unsearched I'll be happy.

Honestly I really wouldn't care if they open the boxes and sold the most basic models as long as they sold them in brick-and-mortar stores America id sure as hell be happy. *exasperated sigh* it doesn't hurt to dream right?☹😫
I got mine fine from full set preorders, which has been my standard modus operandi for a while now regarding random boosters. Even then I didn't find the numbers to be unrealistic from Amazon Japan and the preorders there and found them unopened at that time, with no evidence of tampering.

Some others may try to rig it, but those people are not currently known as far as I'm aware.
Know I'm a tad late, but I opened two sealed sets of RBV22 (twelve Boosters) from AmiAmi (a Japanese store) and never got an Infinite Achilles. Even with reduced number of Beys, Roar Bahamut is difficult to obtain.

Also unlike trading card packs, Random Bey Boosters have added cardboard to offset the weight - but also individual parts have weight variances. In other words, Roar Bahamut weighs more than Dranzer V2, but it's entirely possible that the sealed Dranzer V2 will weigh more than a sealed Roar Bahamut.
SO, I pre-ordered 14 of the new blind booster (Vol. 27). I'm going to weigh each sealed box using a digital scale, note each box weight on the boxes themselves with post-it notes, then start opening. I want to see exactly how easy it would be to discern what is in each box using only their weights. This is a proof of concept for blind booster dishonesty. Also I am likely to get at least one of each of the new beys AND, if it works, have zero duplicates.

I'll let y'all know how it turns out.
(Nov. 14, 2021  9:04 AM)KIO Wrote: Know I'm a tad late, but I opened two sealed sets of RBV22 (twelve Boosters) from AmiAmi (a Japanese store) and never got an Infinite Achilles. Even with reduced number of Beys, Roar Bahamut is difficult to obtain.

Also unlike trading card packs, Random Bey Boosters have added cardboard to offset the weight - but also individual parts have weight variances. In other words, Roar Bahamut weighs more than Dranzer V2, but it's entirely possible that the sealed Dranzer V2 will weigh more than a sealed Roar Bahamut.

This doesn't mean much for the Infinite Achilles booster. There's only a 1/12 chance of either Infinite Achilles bey in each pack, already skewed from Takara Tony's end, with increased 1/6 odds for the Dragoon and Driger instead. It's one of the hardest boosters to get the prize from already, so this isn't all that hard to believe.
There is 24 RBVs  in 1 box.
They have 4 bags in  Box and each bag has 6 RBVs.
and rare is only 3.
If you want to get rare 100% I recomend buy more than 12 RBVs.
As expected I got at least one of each, plus three each of Devil Belial and Vanish Longinus and one each of Guilty Spriggan and Dynamite Valkyrie.

The lightest box was 126.39g and the heaviest was 128.49g, so there's only a 2.1g disparity among all 14 boxes. The weight distribution was as follows:

126.39 - Devil Belial
126.61 - Devil Belial
126.80 - Astral Fafnir
127.19 - Devil Belial
127.42 - Vanish Longinus
127.46 - Guilty Spriggan
127.47 - Dynamite Valkyrie
127.53 - Dragoon*
127.85 - Astral Fafnir
127.94 - Galaxy Pegasus*
128.00 - Vanish Longinus
128.16 - Vanish Longinus
128.33 - Galaxy Pegasus*
128.49 - Dragoon*
*includes 2 Gears

It's no surprise those boxes that include gears were generally some of the heaviest, but that was not the rule. I'd heard they throw extra cardboard in some of these to throw the weights off a bit, but I was surprised at how far apart on the spread some beys fell. Astral Fafnir, for example, had the biggest spread at 1.05g. Finding a Dragoon halfway through the box search was also pretty surprising. Vanish Longinus hung in there with the heavier bonus gear beys, but then popped up again toward the lighter end. The most consistent bey here in terms of weight was Devil Belial.

If all RB releases are distributed similarly, cheating using only the box weights would be tough unless the prize is significantly heavier or lighter than ALL the non-prize beys. I'm actually pretty pleased this result, but I may just try it again next time a RB comes out that does include a prize bey.

And I'm not gonna lie, opening all these beys was pretty fun.
Just no because they check the weight same with cards. I had experience with that so before buying stuff try to weigh it before so you won’t get scammed like I did
If I had to guess, I'd say that most sellers will order a certain number of RB "sets" (each set containing one of each bey), then split the total number of sets accordingly.
For example, if they ordered 50 full sets, they might put 30 aside to sell as full sets (you buy and get one of each bey from the RB), 10 sets to sell confirmed beys from (you usually pay a higher price but are guaranteed to receive the bey you picked), and 10 sets to sell randomly (you buy a random box at the default price with a chance to receive any of the beys in the RB).