Pokemon speculation

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So first, I think that Ash will beat Iris. Of course, it will probably be really close. Afterwards Leon sees that Ash's rank is going up quickly, and wants to have a battle to test his skill. I think it could end in a draw. Next we have Gary, Satoshi's returning Pokemon and Flabebe. I think this is episode 66, The White Flower Flabébé. I think Ash and Goh are just there to meet Oak and meet Ash's older Pokemon, but Gary also happens to be there. They end up getting involved with a Flabebe. Before they leave, I think Oak will tell them about Project Mew, a adventure to find Mew at the Crown Tundra, and they will want to go.

Afterwards they head out on Project Mew after being allowed to go. Tsurugi and Asahi seem mean at first, but they get closer when Tsurugi saves them from an avalanche. This is own caused by Regice. To save them Tsurugi Dynamaxed his Urshifu. I think Tsurugi will take them to return to Asahi, but Goh gets seperated form the group form being drawn in by a strange energy. He hears Mew's voice and throws out a Pokeball but it hits nothing and Mew's voice fades away. Tsurugi will quickly get Goh to return.

The mission is mostly a failure but they did have 1 encounter with Mew. Ash is more focused on Urshifu and asks where it's from. They saw it's from the Isle of Armor, and that will make the duo go there.

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Also just based on the past, Opening 2 should be coming soon (the 2 remixes don't count).

Does anyone remember that anime, Inuyasha? Recently it got a new sequel calle Yashahime which is pretty awesome, the first season aired its last episode in March and production on season 2 has just started.

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Not bad eh?

I have started watching a anime called Tales of Demons and Gods. I love it. It's about a guy called Nie Lie who is given a second chance at life. He in his past life was killed by the Sage Emperor. He gets reincarnated as his 13 year old self. A second chance to change everything, save his loved ones and his beloved city. He shall once again battle with the Sage Emperor to avenge his death. It has a cool magic system, which is cultivation, the thing which I created in my book.

Currently only few eps through, watch it.

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Does anyone remember that anime, Inuyasha? Recently it got a new sequel calle Yashahime which is pretty awesome, the first season aired its last episode in March and production on season 2 has just started.

It's trash.

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Please try out my Fan Fics:
FBW saga (First Blader War)

Scion of the Legends (The Dark Forsworn Series)

Note: I'm falling apart from reading many posts from people who are leaving or are going to be inactive.

I have started watching a anime called Tales of Demons and Gods. I love it. It's about a guy called Nie Lie who is given a second chance at life. He in his past life was killed by the Sage Emperor. He gets reincarnated as his 13 year old self. A second chance to change everything, save his loved ones and his beloved city. He shall once again battle with the Sage Emperor to avenge his death. It has a cool magic system, which is cultivation, the thing which I created in my book.

Currently only few eps through, watch it.

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Does anyone remember that anime, Inuyasha? Recently it got a new sequel calle Yashahime which is pretty awesome, the first season aired its last episode in March and production on season 2 has just started.

It's trash.

The sequel is trash? Dang that sucks, will still watch it for the sake of the og series though. Who is the new villain?

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Not bad eh?

Has anyone seen SAO: Acilization (i have no idea if I spelled that right)? I hear its a lot more graphic than the original SAO.

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PFP: Baby picture of me and one of my irl friends / ANY PRONOUNS

Has anyone seen SAO: Acilization (i have no idea if I spelled that right)? I hear its a lot more graphic than the original SAO.

Yep I've seen it, a lot more blood than I remember in the first two seasons.

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New Pokemon rumor cause I felt like it

I've started watching Fullmetal alchemist, so far im enjoying it, hopefully I'll enjoy it further on.

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I've started watching Fullmetal alchemist, so far im enjoying it, hopefully I'll enjoy it further on.

Which one are you watching? First one or Brotherhood?

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DON'T CALL ME SHORT!1!!1!

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I've started watching Fullmetal alchemist, so far im enjoying it, hopefully I'll enjoy it further on.

Which one are you watching? First one or Brotherhood?

First one, just started it.

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Which one are you watching? First one or Brotherhood?

First one, just started it.

I have not watched the first one yet, but I plan to do so after catching up with My Hero Academia. Brotherhood was incredible though.

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DON'T CALL ME SHORT!1!!1!

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First one, just started it.

I have not watched the first one yet, but I plan to do so after catching up with My Hero Academia. Brotherhood was incredible though.

Oh, how come you didn't watch it before brotherhood, it's the first season right?
What season you on for mha?

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I have not watched the first one yet, but I plan to do so after catching up with My Hero Academia. Brotherhood was incredible though.

Oh, how come you didn't watch it before brotherhood, it's the first season right?

Nah, here's some history for you. The first anime started around the same time the manga was being written and soon caught up to the manga and instead of adding fillers the anime staff decided to take the plot from there in an original direction different from the manga. Brotherhood started after the manga had finished and it faithfully adapts the manga. The majority of fans say Brotherhood is better, heck, it's the top rated anime on MyAnimeList. Personally, I can't say which one's better because I have not watched them both.

Free... Hoya sorry I didn't see your edit with the part about MHA before. I'm on S4, just finished with the Overhaul arc. First time I felt Shigaraki's victim totally deserved it.

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DON'T CALL ME SHORT!1!!1!

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Oh, how come you didn't watch it before brotherhood, it's the first season right?

Nah, here's some history for you. The first anime started around the same time the manga was being written and soon caught up to the manga and instead of adding fillers the anime staff decided to take the plot from there in an original direction different from the manga. Brotherhood started after the manga had finished and it faithfully adapts the manga. The majority of fans say Brotherhood is better, heck, it's the top rated anime on MyAnimeList. Personally, I can't say which one's better because I have not watched them both.

Oh didn't know that, ima check that out.

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overall I gotta go with beyblades though

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GODZILLA IS THE BEST THING EVER!!!! KONG SUCKS!!!
GODZILLA 4 LIFE!!!!! GODZILLA CLUB GO!!!!!!

Free... Hoya sorry I didn't see your edit with the part about MHA before. I'm on S4, just finished with the Overhaul arc. First time I felt Shigaraki's victim totally deserved it.

Oh its fine, I was just wondering. I think overhaul deserved what he got, with how he was treating Eri since the whole experience must have been traumatic for her. Who's your favourite characters?

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What's better?

Naruto vrs Dragon Ball:

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Protagonist:

Naruto is much more relatable than Goku, and you can find a lot of qualities underneath Naruto’s bratty exterior that are tragic, lonely, sad, and extremely human. His goal to become Hokage which he always maintains, it stems from his desire to be accepted by people who shunned and hated him his entire life. Its the only thing that keeps him sane. But its not just Naruto’s connectable qualities in the beginning, but he really matures as a person. From a stupid, weak carp genin, to the Seventh Hokage. His tale is an amazing underdog story. He encounters many walls in his path but he overcomes them all. And looking back its extremely hard to believe that this was the same 12 year old who was annoying in the story’s beginning. And lastly, there’s Naruto’s negative side. Despite Naruto having a lot of generic and static qualities, he has shown darker parts of himself. He’s experienced depression, guilt, regret, and rage , like so many actual human beings have.

Goku, on the other hand, isn't even a hero. He’s a simple minded man who has a simplistic desire, and he’ll do what it takes to achieve his desires. He doesn’t try and save the world because he’s a pillar of justice but because of his own selfish motivation to surpass his limits and get a good fight. I mean the man endanger the fate of multiple universes by suggesting a tournament with the fate of several trillions, probably even more, lives on the line. And why, because he wants to have a good fight. The man consults Frieza, who killed his father, and kindly asks him to join the Tournament.

Fights:
One of the things that made Naruto awesome and popular are the fights. No matter how strong one is, intelligence and trickery can overcome the differences. Power Levels are a part of Naruto, but the intelligence winning over brute strength is imo pretty good. A character with weaker skills than his opponent could still be victorious with smart planning and quick thinking. The fight scenes in Dragon Ball Z were often visually exciting to watch, but the conclusion often boiled down to a level of strength that was determined long before the battle even began. Dragon Ball Z battles boiled down to a specific formula of pointless punches & kicks, transformation sequences, and massive beam attacks. A lot of the Dragon Ball Z fights were often one-sided, which also made things less interesting. This is why the few evenly matched battles are still so well remembered. The fights were also deadlier in Naruto. Characters would die, and unlike in DBZ, they would not get reincarnated. And if they did, it was only temporary, and sometimes the reincarnations could be fighting against, their former friends and precious allies. The dragon ball characters never seemed too fazed by serious injuries. Tien had his arm punched off by Nappa, yet he was fine to keep on fighting. It also had characters with powerful healing abilities (like Dende) and the Senzu beans, which can heal someone from the brink of death in seconds. But, Dragon Ball fights gave me satisfaction which was endearing and was WAY more in Dragon ball then Naruto.

Side characters: Dragon ball gets BODIED and PALES in comparision at this factor. Dumped into the trash bin lol. When it comes to character progression and development DBZ pales in comparison to its successor. Toriyama forgets most of his characters, and there are tons of interesting people who had 0 importance or even appearance in the next arc. Toriyama’s crowning achievement in character writing is the splendid character arc of Vegeta, which I must say, was truly brilliant. However Naruto has superior writing. here are my two fav characters from the series: Kakashi and Itachi. And here’s an analysis on their characters. Kakashi is most fans favorite character. And he is mine as well. He is someone who is infinitely complex and intricate. His backstory is tragic, but despite the pain of losing his father, his mother, his best friends, his mentor, his mentor´s wife, and many more, he manages to bear the loss and not get swept away into darkness. In fact, he was in a constant battle against fate. But the fate he´s fighting against, is the fate of Team 7, who he´s desperately trying to save against darkness. From the past he suffered. They are a reflection of his tragedies, like his sharingan, the mark upon his face is a constant reminder of Rin and Obito, the friends he couldn´t save. And so he tries his best to help them grow into something else, he teaches them things that he didn´t learn until it was too late. So many philosophies are ingrained into this man, and its thanks to him Team 7 grew up to be who they are. Its thanks to him they hold this power today. They are certainly not the same, and he still bears a lot of guilt, but they have become very powerful ninja, and many things can be credited to Kakashi. He holds a special place in my heart, and I absolutely cherish this amazing and cool character.

Itachi. Amazing side character. I wanted him dead, too suffer for what he did. Killed my favorite naruto clan. As a child he experienced the pain of war at a young age, and instead of being clouded by his family´s perception and vision, he formed his own. And its the one that gave him the determination to kill his family. He spares no one, only Sasuke, because he wants Sasuke to grow up and kill him. So yeah, essentially, he mentally abuses him. An inexcusable act. It isn´t mindrape, that´s entirely different, but yeah, its mental abuse. But Itachi is a shinobi. Shinobi do whatever it takes for the mission. So he closes his heart and acts only on his mind. He loved and loves his brother a lot, but in this moment he´s only focused on the benefit of the village, he can´t let anyone know, this is what he has to do. Its twisted, and the Itachi who yearned for peace, is doing it. Because he has too. He became a rogue ninja, a vigilante lurking in the darkness, hiding his pain and suffering and taking all the hatred with no credit. Why? For the Hidden Leaf Village, who he gives everything for. He channel´s Sasuke´s hate towards him in order to help him grow in strength in the future, and achieve his own personal dreams. And so, with some great character development, morally gray and nuanced writing, intricate political history, the cruelty Itachi had to endure at a young age, and the things he was forced to do against his own willI, make Itachi a intricate and a phenomally written antagonist. It also helps that he steals the scene every time he appears.

Might Guy, Lee, etc a lot of characters surpass DB in development, progression, feelings, etc.

Antagonists:

Naruto has some of the best antagonists I’ve ever seen. There’s Pain, a formerly idealistic child warped by twisted experience, war, and poverty. He formed a twisted mentality based on actually very realistic principles and beliefs. Not only that but he’s a perfect dark reflection of our idealistic protagonist. He’s a Utilitarianist. Utilitarianism is a concept heavily used in Naruto and its one of theme backbones on which the very idea of a shinobi is based on. And most of the great antagonists take a different and darker approach on this concept. Like Obito: Obito who supposedly started a war for a girl, at least on the surface. If you examine deeper into his character you find a tragic man corrupted by manipulation and who had his idealistic ideal get destroyed before his eyes. He see the shinobi he once aspired to be in a negative light and mentally devolves. And Madara, who was built up since the very beginning. A Utilitarianist who strived for peace but saw it could not be permanently maintained and so then decides to create what in his eyes is true peace by helping one’s greatest dreams come true, but not in real life. Oh of course there’s also Itachi, who I mentioned above. Madara smart guy, manipulates everything. But of course Black Zetsu and Kaguya, which was kinda stupid imo. Would've been better if Kaguya came in Boruto.


Meanwhile most Dragon Ball villains are after: immortality, power, chaos, or something like that. They have very few nuances and are clear cut evil. There’s like two or three ‘antagonists’ in the story, the rest are absolutely diabolical villains (One good DB villian example is Black Goku aka Zamas). This doesn’t mean they’re necessarily bad, as Frieza despite his basic and generic villain desire, is one of my fav anime villains because he oozes charisma. But charisma can only take you so far, so DB loses this one.

DB had emotional impact…..but it lost that very quickly. How? Because the dragon balls resurrect everyone. Piccolo’s heartbreaking sacrifice which was an excellent conclusion to his character arc? Reversed. Goku’s epic death at the hands of Cell which triggered Gohan’s final stage of character evolution…..reversed. The death of Krillin which helped Goku achieve Super Saiyan…reversed. DB follows this constant, annoying pattern of resurrecting dead character and removing emotional impact. The TOP’s intensity was practically removed in the blink of an eye because everyone came back. And the sad thing is that it wasn’t even surprising.

Naruto on the other hand is one of the saddest shonen I’ve seen. It has tons of soul crushing deaths and scenes…from the Itachi reveal, to Jiraiya’s death, to Minato’s goodbye, Naruto is a master of emotionally playing with your heartstrings. And while Edo Tensei brings the dead back its just painful because its temporary and while their under the Edo Tensei their slaves to the will of the one who resurrects them, and we had to see many character confront their pasts.

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Please try out my Fan Fics:
FBW saga (First Blader War)

Scion of the Legends (The Dark Forsworn Series)

Note: I'm falling apart from reading many posts from people who are leaving or are going to be inactive.

Watching jjk rn,but beyblade burst db is Looking cool

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Valt and Valkyrie are my favorite
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What's better?

Naruto vrs Dragon Ball:

Spoiler (Click to View)

Protagonist:

Naruto is much more relatable than Goku, and you can find a lot of qualities underneath Naruto’s bratty exterior that are tragic, lonely, sad, and extremely human. His goal to become Hokage which he always maintains, it stems from his desire to be accepted by people who shunned and hated him his entire life. Its the only thing that keeps him sane. But its not just Naruto’s connectable qualities in the beginning, but he really matures as a person. From a stupid, weak carp genin, to the Seventh Hokage. His tale is an amazing underdog story. He encounters many walls in his path but he overcomes them all. And looking back its extremely hard to believe that this was the same 12 year old who was annoying in the story’s beginning. And lastly, there’s Naruto’s negative side. Despite Naruto having a lot of generic and static qualities, he has shown darker parts of himself. He’s experienced depression, guilt, regret, and rage , like so many actual human beings have.

Goku, on the other hand, isn't even a hero.  He’s a simple minded man who has a simplistic desire, and he’ll do what it takes to achieve his desires. He doesn’t try and save the world because he’s a pillar of justice but because of his own selfish motivation to surpass his limits and get a good fight. I mean the man endanger the fate of multiple universes by suggesting a tournament with the fate of several trillions, probably even more, lives on the line. And why, because he wants to have a good fight. The man consults Frieza, who killed his father, and kindly asks him to join the Tournament.

Fights:
One of the things that made Naruto awesome and popular are the fights. No matter how strong one is, intelligence and trickery can overcome the differences. Power Levels are a part of Naruto, but the intelligence winning over brute strength is imo pretty good. A character with weaker skills than his opponent could still be victorious with smart planning and quick thinking. The fight scenes in Dragon Ball Z were often visually exciting to watch, but the conclusion often boiled down to a level of strength that was determined long before the battle even began. Dragon Ball Z battles boiled down to a specific formula of pointless punches & kicks, transformation sequences, and massive beam attacks. A lot of the Dragon Ball Z fights were often one-sided, which also made things less interesting. This is why the few evenly matched battles  are still so well remembered. The fights were also deadlier in Naruto. Characters would die, and unlike in DBZ, they would not get reincarnated. And if they did, it was only temporary, and sometimes the reincarnations could be fighting against, their former friends and precious allies.  The dragon ball characters never seemed too fazed by serious injuries. Tien had his arm punched off by Nappa, yet he was fine to keep on fighting. It also had characters with powerful healing abilities (like Dende) and the Senzu beans, which can heal someone from the brink of death in seconds. But, Dragon Ball fights gave me satisfaction which was endearing and was WAY more in Dragon ball then Naruto.

Side characters: Dragon ball gets BODIED and PALES in comparision at this factor. Dumped into the trash bin lol. When it comes to character progression and development DBZ pales in comparison to its successor. Toriyama forgets most of his characters, and there are tons of interesting people who had 0 importance or even appearance in the next arc. Toriyama’s crowning achievement in character writing is the splendid character arc of Vegeta, which I must say, was truly brilliant. However Naruto has superior writing. here are my two fav characters from the series: Kakashi and Itachi. And here’s an analysis on their characters. Kakashi is most fans favorite character. And he is mine as well. He is someone who is infinitely complex and intricate. His backstory is tragic, but despite the pain of losing his father, his mother, his best friends, his mentor, his mentor´s wife, and many more, he manages to bear the loss and not get swept away into darkness. In fact, he was in a constant battle against fate. But the fate he´s fighting against, is the fate of Team 7, who he´s desperately trying to save against darkness. From the past he suffered. They are a reflection of his tragedies, like his sharingan, the mark upon his face is a constant reminder of Rin and Obito, the friends he couldn´t save. And so he tries his best to help them grow into something else, he teaches them things that he didn´t learn until it was too late. So many philosophies are ingrained into this man, and its thanks to him Team 7 grew up to be who they are. Its thanks to him they hold this power today. They are certainly not the same, and he still bears a lot of guilt, but they have become very powerful ninja, and many things can be credited to Kakashi. He holds a special place in my heart, and I absolutely cherish this amazing and cool character.

Itachi. Amazing side character. I wanted him dead, too suffer for what he did. Killed my favorite naruto clan. As a child he experienced the pain of war at a young age, and instead of being clouded by his family´s perception and vision, he formed his own. And its the one that gave him the determination to kill his family. He spares no one, only Sasuke, because he wants Sasuke to grow up and kill him. So yeah, essentially, he mentally abuses him. An inexcusable act. It isn´t mindrape, that´s entirely different, but yeah, its mental abuse. But Itachi is a shinobi. Shinobi do whatever it takes for the mission. So he closes his heart and acts only on his mind. He loved and loves his brother a lot, but in this moment he´s only focused on the benefit of the village, he can´t let anyone know, this is what he has to do. Its twisted, and the Itachi who yearned for peace, is doing it. Because he has too. He became a rogue ninja, a vigilante lurking in the darkness, hiding his pain and suffering and taking all the hatred with no credit. Why? For the Hidden Leaf Village, who he gives everything for. He channel´s Sasuke´s hate towards him in order to help him grow in strength in the future, and achieve his own personal dreams. And so, with some great character development, morally gray and nuanced writing, intricate political history, the cruelty Itachi had to endure at a young age, and the things he was forced to do against his own willI, make Itachi a intricate and a phenomally written antagonist. It also helps that he steals the scene every time he appears.

Might Guy, Lee, etc a lot of characters surpass DB in development, progression, feelings, etc.

Antagonists:

Naruto has some of the best antagonists I’ve ever seen. There’s Pain, a formerly idealistic child warped by twisted experience, war, and poverty. He formed a twisted mentality based on actually very realistic principles and beliefs. Not only that but he’s a perfect dark reflection of our idealistic protagonist. He’s a Utilitarianist. Utilitarianism is a concept heavily used in Naruto and its one of theme backbones on which the very idea of a shinobi is based on. And most of the great antagonists take a different and darker approach on this concept. Like Obito: Obito who supposedly started a war for a girl, at least on the surface. If you examine deeper into his character you find a tragic man corrupted by manipulation and who had his idealistic ideal get destroyed before his eyes. He see the shinobi he once aspired to be in a negative light and mentally devolves. And Madara, who was built up since the very beginning. A Utilitarianist who strived for peace but saw it could not be permanently maintained and so then decides to create what in his eyes is true peace by helping one’s greatest dreams come true, but not in real life. Oh of course there’s also Itachi, who I mentioned above.  Madara smart guy, manipulates everything. But of course Black Zetsu and Kaguya, which was kinda stupid imo. Would've been better if Kaguya came in Boruto.


Meanwhile most Dragon Ball villains are after: immortality, power, chaos, or something like that. They have very few nuances and are clear cut evil. There’s like two or three ‘antagonists’ in the story, the rest are absolutely diabolical villains (One good DB villian example is Black Goku aka Zamas). This doesn’t mean they’re necessarily bad, as Frieza despite his basic and generic villain desire, is one of my fav anime villains because he oozes charisma. But charisma can only take you so far, so DB loses this one.

DB had emotional impact…..but it lost that very quickly. How? Because the dragon balls resurrect everyone. Piccolo’s heartbreaking sacrifice which was an excellent conclusion to his character arc? Reversed. Goku’s epic death at the hands of Cell which triggered Gohan’s final stage of character evolution…..reversed. The death of Krillin which helped Goku achieve Super Saiyan…reversed. DB follows this constant, annoying pattern of resurrecting dead character and removing emotional impact. The TOP’s intensity was practically removed in the blink of an eye because everyone came back. And the sad thing is that it wasn’t even surprising.

Naruto on the other hand is one of the saddest shonen I’ve seen. It has tons of soul crushing deaths and scenes…from the Itachi reveal, to Jiraiya’s death, to Minato’s goodbye, Naruto is a master of emotionally playing with your heartstrings. And while Edo Tensei brings the dead back its just painful because its temporary and while their under the Edo Tensei their slaves to the will of the one who resurrects them, and we had to see many character confront their pasts.

I still like both, but these are really good points.

What's better?

Naruto vrs Dragon Ball:

Spoiler (Click to View)

Protagonist:

Naruto is much more relatable than Goku, and you can find a lot of qualities underneath Naruto’s bratty exterior that are tragic, lonely, sad, and extremely human. His goal to become Hokage which he always maintains, it stems from his desire to be accepted by people who shunned and hated him his entire life. Its the only thing that keeps him sane. But its not just Naruto’s connectable qualities in the beginning, but he really matures as a person. From a stupid, weak carp genin, to the Seventh Hokage. His tale is an amazing underdog story. He encounters many walls in his path but he overcomes them all. And looking back its extremely hard to believe that this was the same 12 year old who was annoying in the story’s beginning. And lastly, there’s Naruto’s negative side. Despite Naruto having a lot of generic and static qualities, he has shown darker parts of himself. He’s experienced depression, guilt, regret, and rage , like so many actual human beings have.

Goku, on the other hand, isn't even a hero.  He’s a simple minded man who has a simplistic desire, and he’ll do what it takes to achieve his desires. He doesn’t try and save the world because he’s a pillar of justice but because of his own selfish motivation to surpass his limits and get a good fight. I mean the man endanger the fate of multiple universes by suggesting a tournament with the fate of several trillions, probably even more, lives on the line. And why, because he wants to have a good fight. The man consults Frieza, who killed his father, and kindly asks him to join the Tournament.

Fights:
One of the things that made Naruto awesome and popular are the fights. No matter how strong one is, intelligence and trickery can overcome the differences. Power Levels are a part of Naruto, but the intelligence winning over brute strength is imo pretty good. A character with weaker skills than his opponent could still be victorious with smart planning and quick thinking. The fight scenes in Dragon Ball Z were often visually exciting to watch, but the conclusion often boiled down to a level of strength that was determined long before the battle even began. Dragon Ball Z battles boiled down to a specific formula of pointless punches & kicks, transformation sequences, and massive beam attacks. A lot of the Dragon Ball Z fights were often one-sided, which also made things less interesting. This is why the few evenly matched battles  are still so well remembered. The fights were also deadlier in Naruto. Characters would die, and unlike in DBZ, they would not get reincarnated. And if they did, it was only temporary, and sometimes the reincarnations could be fighting against, their former friends and precious allies.  The dragon ball characters never seemed too fazed by serious injuries. Tien had his arm punched off by Nappa, yet he was fine to keep on fighting. It also had characters with powerful healing abilities (like Dende) and the Senzu beans, which can heal someone from the brink of death in seconds. But, Dragon Ball fights gave me satisfaction which was endearing and was WAY more in Dragon ball then Naruto.

Side characters: Dragon ball gets BODIED and PALES in comparision at this factor. Dumped into the trash bin lol. When it comes to character progression and development DBZ pales in comparison to its successor. Toriyama forgets most of his characters, and there are tons of interesting people who had 0 importance or even appearance in the next arc. Toriyama’s crowning achievement in character writing is the splendid character arc of Vegeta, which I must say, was truly brilliant. However Naruto has superior writing. here are my two fav characters from the series: Kakashi and Itachi. And here’s an analysis on their characters. Kakashi is most fans favorite character. And he is mine as well. He is someone who is infinitely complex and intricate. His backstory is tragic, but despite the pain of losing his father, his mother, his best friends, his mentor, his mentor´s wife, and many more, he manages to bear the loss and not get swept away into darkness. In fact, he was in a constant battle against fate. But the fate he´s fighting against, is the fate of Team 7, who he´s desperately trying to save against darkness. From the past he suffered. They are a reflection of his tragedies, like his sharingan, the mark upon his face is a constant reminder of Rin and Obito, the friends he couldn´t save. And so he tries his best to help them grow into something else, he teaches them things that he didn´t learn until it was too late. So many philosophies are ingrained into this man, and its thanks to him Team 7 grew up to be who they are. Its thanks to him they hold this power today. They are certainly not the same, and he still bears a lot of guilt, but they have become very powerful ninja, and many things can be credited to Kakashi. He holds a special place in my heart, and I absolutely cherish this amazing and cool character.

Itachi. Amazing side character. I wanted him dead, too suffer for what he did. Killed my favorite naruto clan. As a child he experienced the pain of war at a young age, and instead of being clouded by his family´s perception and vision, he formed his own. And its the one that gave him the determination to kill his family. He spares no one, only Sasuke, because he wants Sasuke to grow up and kill him. So yeah, essentially, he mentally abuses him. An inexcusable act. It isn´t mindrape, that´s entirely different, but yeah, its mental abuse. But Itachi is a shinobi. Shinobi do whatever it takes for the mission. So he closes his heart and acts only on his mind. He loved and loves his brother a lot, but in this moment he´s only focused on the benefit of the village, he can´t let anyone know, this is what he has to do. Its twisted, and the Itachi who yearned for peace, is doing it. Because he has too. He became a rogue ninja, a vigilante lurking in the darkness, hiding his pain and suffering and taking all the hatred with no credit. Why? For the Hidden Leaf Village, who he gives everything for. He channel´s Sasuke´s hate towards him in order to help him grow in strength in the future, and achieve his own personal dreams. And so, with some great character development, morally gray and nuanced writing, intricate political history, the cruelty Itachi had to endure at a young age, and the things he was forced to do against his own willI, make Itachi a intricate and a phenomally written antagonist. It also helps that he steals the scene every time he appears.

Might Guy, Lee, etc a lot of characters surpass DB in development, progression, feelings, etc.

Antagonists:

Naruto has some of the best antagonists I’ve ever seen. There’s Pain, a formerly idealistic child warped by twisted experience, war, and poverty. He formed a twisted mentality based on actually very realistic principles and beliefs. Not only that but he’s a perfect dark reflection of our idealistic protagonist. He’s a Utilitarianist. Utilitarianism is a concept heavily used in Naruto and its one of theme backbones on which the very idea of a shinobi is based on. And most of the great antagonists take a different and darker approach on this concept. Like Obito: Obito who supposedly started a war for a girl, at least on the surface. If you examine deeper into his character you find a tragic man corrupted by manipulation and who had his idealistic ideal get destroyed before his eyes. He see the shinobi he once aspired to be in a negative light and mentally devolves. And Madara, who was built up since the very beginning. A Utilitarianist who strived for peace but saw it could not be permanently maintained and so then decides to create what in his eyes is true peace by helping one’s greatest dreams come true, but not in real life. Oh of course there’s also Itachi, who I mentioned above.  Madara smart guy, manipulates everything. But of course Black Zetsu and Kaguya, which was kinda stupid imo. Would've been better if Kaguya came in Boruto.


Meanwhile most Dragon Ball villains are after: immortality, power, chaos, or something like that. They have very few nuances and are clear cut evil. There’s like two or three ‘antagonists’ in the story, the rest are absolutely diabolical villains (One good DB villian example is Black Goku aka Zamas). This doesn’t mean they’re necessarily bad, as Frieza despite his basic and generic villain desire, is one of my fav anime villains because he oozes charisma. But charisma can only take you so far, so DB loses this one.

DB had emotional impact…..but it lost that very quickly. How? Because the dragon balls resurrect everyone. Piccolo’s heartbreaking sacrifice which was an excellent conclusion to his character arc? Reversed. Goku’s epic death at the hands of Cell which triggered Gohan’s final stage of character evolution…..reversed. The death of Krillin which helped Goku achieve Super Saiyan…reversed. DB follows this constant, annoying pattern of resurrecting dead character and removing emotional impact. The TOP’s intensity was practically removed in the blink of an eye because everyone came back. And the sad thing is that it wasn’t even surprising.

Naruto on the other hand is one of the saddest shonen I’ve seen. It has tons of soul crushing deaths and scenes…from the Itachi reveal, to Jiraiya’s death, to Minato’s goodbye, Naruto is a master of emotionally playing with your heartstrings. And while Edo Tensei brings the dead back its just painful because its temporary and while their under the Edo Tensei their slaves to the will of the one who resurrects them, and we had to see many character confront their pasts.

I still like both, but these are really good points.

Thanks. I like Dragon Ball, but Naruto overall imo is a better series. I forgot to mention Naruto's stupid fillers and some of it's annoying fights in the Fourth great Shinobi War.

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Free... Hoya sorry I didn't see your edit with the part about MHA before. I'm on S4, just finished with the Overhaul arc. First time I felt Shigaraki's victim totally deserved it.

Oh its fine, I was just wondering. I think overhaul deserved what he got, with how he was treating Eri since the whole experience must have been traumatic for her. Who's your favourite characters?

I feel sorry about the Yakuza boss though, with Overhaul disabled there might not be a way to bring him back, at least not until Eri gains control over her quirk. My favorites are Deku, All Might, Tsukuyomi, Froppy, Shoto, Chargebolt, Hawks and Endeavor (well, he's trying to change and Prominence Burn is awesome). What are your favorite characters (other than Chargebolt and Earphone Jack cuz I've seen both on your pfp)?

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can anyone recommend some anime
im very bored 

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can anyone recommend some anime
im very bored 

Beyblade
No, but srsly, what anime have you already watched?

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What's better?

Naruto vrs Dragon Ball:

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Protagonist:

Naruto is much more relatable than Goku, and you can find a lot of qualities underneath Naruto’s bratty exterior that are tragic, lonely, sad, and extremely human. His goal to become Hokage which he always maintains, it stems from his desire to be accepted by people who shunned and hated him his entire life. Its the only thing that keeps him sane. But its not just Naruto’s connectable qualities in the beginning, but he really matures as a person. From a stupid, weak carp genin, to the Seventh Hokage. His tale is an amazing underdog story. He encounters many walls in his path but he overcomes them all. And looking back its extremely hard to believe that this was the same 12 year old who was annoying in the story’s beginning. And lastly, there’s Naruto’s negative side. Despite Naruto having a lot of generic and static qualities, he has shown darker parts of himself. He’s experienced depression, guilt, regret, and rage , like so many actual human beings have.

Goku, on the other hand, isn't even a hero. He’s a simple minded man who has a simplistic desire, and he’ll do what it takes to achieve his desires. He doesn’t try and save the world because he’s a pillar of justice but because of his own selfish motivation to surpass his limits and get a good fight. I mean the man endanger the fate of multiple universes by suggesting a tournament with the fate of several trillions, probably even more, lives on the line. And why, because he wants to have a good fight. The man consults Frieza, who killed his father, and kindly asks him to join the Tournament.

Fights:
One of the things that made Naruto awesome and popular are the fights. No matter how strong one is, intelligence and trickery can overcome the differences. Power Levels are a part of Naruto, but the intelligence winning over brute strength is imo pretty good. A character with weaker skills than his opponent could still be victorious with smart planning and quick thinking. The fight scenes in Dragon Ball Z were often visually exciting to watch, but the conclusion often boiled down to a level of strength that was determined long before the battle even began. Dragon Ball Z battles boiled down to a specific formula of pointless punches & kicks, transformation sequences, and massive beam attacks. A lot of the Dragon Ball Z fights were often one-sided, which also made things less interesting. This is why the few evenly matched battles are still so well remembered. The fights were also deadlier in Naruto. Characters would die, and unlike in DBZ, they would not get reincarnated. And if they did, it was only temporary, and sometimes the reincarnations could be fighting against, their former friends and precious allies. The dragon ball characters never seemed too fazed by serious injuries. Tien had his arm punched off by Nappa, yet he was fine to keep on fighting. It also had characters with powerful healing abilities (like Dende) and the Senzu beans, which can heal someone from the brink of death in seconds. But, Dragon Ball fights gave me satisfaction which was endearing and was WAY more in Dragon ball then Naruto.

Side characters: Dragon ball gets BODIED and PALES in comparision at this factor. Dumped into the trash bin lol. When it comes to character progression and development DBZ pales in comparison to its successor. Toriyama forgets most of his characters, and there are tons of interesting people who had 0 importance or even appearance in the next arc. Toriyama’s crowning achievement in character writing is the splendid character arc of Vegeta, which I must say, was truly brilliant. However Naruto has superior writing. here are my two fav characters from the series: Kakashi and Itachi. And here’s an analysis on their characters. Kakashi is most fans favorite character. And he is mine as well. He is someone who is infinitely complex and intricate. His backstory is tragic, but despite the pain of losing his father, his mother, his best friends, his mentor, his mentor´s wife, and many more, he manages to bear the loss and not get swept away into darkness. In fact, he was in a constant battle against fate. But the fate he´s fighting against, is the fate of Team 7, who he´s desperately trying to save against darkness. From the past he suffered. They are a reflection of his tragedies, like his sharingan, the mark upon his face is a constant reminder of Rin and Obito, the friends he couldn´t save. And so he tries his best to help them grow into something else, he teaches them things that he didn´t learn until it was too late. So many philosophies are ingrained into this man, and its thanks to him Team 7 grew up to be who they are. Its thanks to him they hold this power today. They are certainly not the same, and he still bears a lot of guilt, but they have become very powerful ninja, and many things can be credited to Kakashi. He holds a special place in my heart, and I absolutely cherish this amazing and cool character.

Itachi. Amazing side character. I wanted him dead, too suffer for what he did. Killed my favorite naruto clan. As a child he experienced the pain of war at a young age, and instead of being clouded by his family´s perception and vision, he formed his own. And its the one that gave him the determination to kill his family. He spares no one, only Sasuke, because he wants Sasuke to grow up and kill him. So yeah, essentially, he mentally abuses him. An inexcusable act. It isn´t mindrape, that´s entirely different, but yeah, its mental abuse. But Itachi is a shinobi. Shinobi do whatever it takes for the mission. So he closes his heart and acts only on his mind. He loved and loves his brother a lot, but in this moment he´s only focused on the benefit of the village, he can´t let anyone know, this is what he has to do. Its twisted, and the Itachi who yearned for peace, is doing it. Because he has too. He became a rogue ninja, a vigilante lurking in the darkness, hiding his pain and suffering and taking all the hatred with no credit. Why? For the Hidden Leaf Village, who he gives everything for. He channel´s Sasuke´s hate towards him in order to help him grow in strength in the future, and achieve his own personal dreams. And so, with some great character development, morally gray and nuanced writing, intricate political history, the cruelty Itachi had to endure at a young age, and the things he was forced to do against his own willI, make Itachi a intricate and a phenomally written antagonist. It also helps that he steals the scene every time he appears.

Might Guy, Lee, etc a lot of characters surpass DB in development, progression, feelings, etc.

Antagonists:

Naruto has some of the best antagonists I’ve ever seen. There’s Pain, a formerly idealistic child warped by twisted experience, war, and poverty. He formed a twisted mentality based on actually very realistic principles and beliefs. Not only that but he’s a perfect dark reflection of our idealistic protagonist. He’s a Utilitarianist. Utilitarianism is a concept heavily used in Naruto and its one of theme backbones on which the very idea of a shinobi is based on. And most of the great antagonists take a different and darker approach on this concept. Like Obito: Obito who supposedly started a war for a girl, at least on the surface. If you examine deeper into his character you find a tragic man corrupted by manipulation and who had his idealistic ideal get destroyed before his eyes. He see the shinobi he once aspired to be in a negative light and mentally devolves. And Madara, who was built up since the very beginning. A Utilitarianist who strived for peace but saw it could not be permanently maintained and so then decides to create what in his eyes is true peace by helping one’s greatest dreams come true, but not in real life. Oh of course there’s also Itachi, who I mentioned above. Madara smart guy, manipulates everything. But of course Black Zetsu and Kaguya, which was kinda stupid imo. Would've been better if Kaguya came in Boruto.


Meanwhile most Dragon Ball villains are after: immortality, power, chaos, or something like that. They have very few nuances and are clear cut evil. There’s like two or three ‘antagonists’ in the story, the rest are absolutely diabolical villains (One good DB villian example is Black Goku aka Zamas). This doesn’t mean they’re necessarily bad, as Frieza despite his basic and generic villain desire, is one of my fav anime villains because he oozes charisma. But charisma can only take you so far, so DB loses this one.

DB had emotional impact…..but it lost that very quickly. How? Because the dragon balls resurrect everyone. Piccolo’s heartbreaking sacrifice which was an excellent conclusion to his character arc? Reversed. Goku’s epic death at the hands of Cell which triggered Gohan’s final stage of character evolution…..reversed. The death of Krillin which helped Goku achieve Super Saiyan…reversed. DB follows this constant, annoying pattern of resurrecting dead character and removing emotional impact. The TOP’s intensity was practically removed in the blink of an eye because everyone came back. And the sad thing is that it wasn’t even surprising.

Naruto on the other hand is one of the saddest shonen I’ve seen. It has tons of soul crushing deaths and scenes…from the Itachi reveal, to Jiraiya’s death, to Minato’s goodbye, Naruto is a master of emotionally playing with your heartstrings. And while Edo Tensei brings the dead back its just painful because its temporary and while their under the Edo Tensei their slaves to the will of the one who resurrects them, and we had to see many character confront their pasts.

Nice points but for me naruto.Dbz is awesome but naruto is favorite and then dbz comes after

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Has anyone seen SAO: Acilization (i have no idea if I spelled that right)? I hear its a lot more graphic than the original SAO.

Yeah it has more blood

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I've started watching Fullmetal alchemist, so far im enjoying it, hopefully I'll enjoy it further on.

Which one are you watching? First one or Brotherhood?

Brotherhood

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Oh its fine, I was just wondering. I think overhaul deserved what he got, with how he was treating Eri since the whole experience must have been traumatic for her. Who's your favourite characters?

I feel sorry about the Yakuza boss though, with Overhaul disabled there might not be a way to bring him back, at least not until Eri gains control over her quirk. My favorites are Deku, All Might, Tsukuyomi, Froppy, Shoto, Chargebolt, Hawks and Endeavor (well, he's trying to change and Prominence Burn is awesome). What are your favorite characters (other than Chargebolt and Earphone Jack cuz I've seen both on your pfp)?

Yeah.Deku cool

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Valt and Valkyrie are my favorite
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can anyone recommend some anime
im very bored 

Beyblade
No, but srsly, what anime have you already watched?

not much lol

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bye