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A Look at GT’s Defense Types

Aug. 14, 2022  4:10 PM
 
(Aug. 14, 2022  4:36 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Aug. 14, 2022  1:19 AM)GreenK9148 Wrote: Possibly Lord or dread with the gen weight.
Lord against Judgement or Zwei?

Yep.
Aug. 14, 2022  4:55 PM
 
(Aug. 14, 2022  4:10 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote:
(Aug. 14, 2022  4:36 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote: Lord against Judgement or Zwei?

Yep.

I asked which one.
Aug. 14, 2022  5:08 PM
 
(Aug. 14, 2022  4:55 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Aug. 14, 2022  4:10 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: Yep.

I asked which one.

Oh my b. Lord against Judgement.
Aug. 15, 2022  1:58 AM
 
(Aug. 14, 2022  5:08 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote:
(Aug. 14, 2022  4:55 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: I asked which one.

Oh my b. Lord against Judgement.

I’ll try my best but my rubber drivers are currently close to being dead so I’ll see what I can do.
Aug. 15, 2022  3:30 AM
 
What about master diabolos 1 00 expand drift vs you’re Pegasus combo
Aug. 15, 2022  3:43 AM
 
(Aug. 15, 2022  3:30 AM)kai edits Wrote: What about master diabolos 1  00 expand drift vs you’re Pegasus combo

I already did that, check the opening post. And I’m sure it was just a typo but Diabolos1 isn’t compatible with Master.
Aug. 15, 2022  3:45 AM
 
(Aug. 15, 2022  3:43 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Aug. 15, 2022  3:30 AM)kai edits Wrote: What about master diabolos 1  00 expand drift vs you’re Pegasus combo

I already did that, check the opening post. And I’m sure it was just a typo but Diabolos1 isn’t compatible with Master.
What about Master Diabolos2 00Wall Keep', Cosmo Diabolos1 Sting Xtend+ and Orb Egis Sting Keep' ._.
Aug. 15, 2022  3:50 AM
 
(Aug. 15, 2022  3:45 AM)(Blank) Wrote:
(Aug. 15, 2022  3:43 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote: I already did that, check the opening post. And I’m sure it was just a typo but Diabolos1 isn’t compatible with Master.
What about Master Diabolos2 00Wall Keep', Cosmo Diabolos1 Sting Xtend+ and Orb Egis Sting Keep' ._.

I’m doing Keep’ testing next testing session, but currently my rubber attack drivers are kind of dead. Master would be given Hasbro Wheel as it’s better for stamina, late game stamina, and in my opinion it works better than other disks on Keep’. Cosmo would get blown up or knocked out easily, same for Orb Egis.
Aug. 15, 2022  4:38 AM
 
(Aug. 15, 2022  3:43 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Aug. 15, 2022  3:30 AM)kai edits Wrote: What about master diabolos 1  00 expand drift vs you’re Pegasus combo

I already did that, check the opening post. And I’m sure it was just a typo but Diabolos1 isn’t compatible with Master.

My fault 

Dread diabolos 1 00 expand drift

Sorry I don’t really know what goes together cause I haven’t played in a long time
Aug. 15, 2022  3:09 PM
 
(Aug. 15, 2022  4:38 AM)kai edits Wrote:
(Aug. 15, 2022  3:43 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote: I already did that, check the opening post. And I’m sure it was just a typo but Diabolos1 isn’t compatible with Master.

My fault 

Dread diabolos 1 00 expand drift

Sorry I don’t really know what goes together cause I haven’t played in a long time

I’m pretty sure I just told you to check the opening post if you cared about these tests. I also already did that.
Here is some random testing against Judgement and Zwei.


Combo Requested by TheRogueBlader:

Master Diabolos2 Convert (Balanced) Octa (first, medium launched, left spin) vs Judgement Pegasus Blitz Quick’ Goku (second, bank shoot)
Results (Click to View)
Judgement Win Rate: 70% (7 KOs)
Master Win Rate: 30% (2 OSes, 1 KO)

Master Diabolos2 Convert (Balanced) Octa (hard launched, first, left) vs Zwei Diabolos Stimg Jolt’ (hard launched, bank shoot, second)

Results (Click to View)
Zwei Win Rate: 60% (6 KOs)
Master Win Rate: 40% (4 OSes)

Master Convert Octa is not a reliable defensive option, especially if your opponents are good at attack. All of it’s wins against Zwei were due to poor launches, and two of it’s wins against Judgement were due to wall saves. 

Combo inspired by ICrazyEater:

Tact Fafnir Wheel (Hasbro) Just Goku (hard launched, first) vs Zwei Diabolos Sting Jolt’ (hard launched, bank shoot, second)

Results (Click to View)
Zwei Win Rate: 70% (5 KOs, 1 OS, 1 Burst)
Tact Win Rate: 30% (2 Bursts, 1 OS)

Tact Fafnir Wheel (Hasbro) Just Goku (medium launched, first) vs Judgement Diabolos Blitz Quick’ (hard launched, bank shoot, second)

Results (Click to View)
Judgement Win Rate: 30% (3 KOs)
Tact Win Rate: 70% (4 OSes, 3 KOs)

This was a meme. It should not have worked as well as it did. Just has a nice tip that can catch the ridge without sliding over it. Against Judgement there were quite a few wall saves, sometimes up to 3 per round. I do think there was some luck involved, but this could be used as a spicy meme if you feel like it in deck format.
Jan. 02, 2023  6:05 PM
 
I actually found out that wizard isn't that bad vs judgment (i have the MENA one so it has decent burst resistance now)
Combo is
Wizard fafnir 00bump zone’+z goku vs judgment diabolos blitz quick zan
Wisard: 9 os
Judgment: 9 ko 1 os 1 bf
Wizard wins 55%
Granted since i have the MENA one so it has better burst resistance (like pro series) but it acually does pretty well
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