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WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Kei - May. 08, 2018 Outlined below are several important new ruling additions, updates, and clarifications to the WBO Organized Play Burst Format rulebook and the Organizers' Guide. View all WBO Organized Play Rules & Resources here, and a summary of the changes below: Rule Updates Overview
Burst Format Updates Burst Format: Spriggan Requiem Layer - Trial Ban Spriggan Requiem’s dominance and omnipresence among the winning combos of WBO tournament winners since its release at the end of 2017 has been well-documented. Sr is an immensely powerful Layer strong in all types; it works on practically any competitive Driver available as an attack type, a stamina type, or a defense type. As a result, we have decided to proceed with a trial ban for Spriggan Requiem. This trial ban will be re-evaluated shortly after the conclusion of our BeyDays festivities on June 4th, 2018 (announcement for that coming soon!) and will remain banned until further notice. Despite the promising presence (based on early testing) of new parts such as Bloody Longinus, we hope that in doing this, the metagame will have a chance to evolve in this short period without Sr as a overly centralizing force. We encourage everyone to continue posting test results within the Spriggan Requiem testing thread in the meantime. Burst Format: Hasbro’s Garuda G3 Energy Layer Banned in all Formats Hasbro’s recently released Garuda G3 Layer has proven to fit tighter and be harder to burst than TAKARA-TOMY’s Maximum Garuda Layer, making its design unbalanced for competitive play. We have therefore decided to ban Hasbro’s Garuda G3 Energy Layer from both Burst Format and Hasbro Only Burst Format. This ban will be reviewed as new products are released. Burst Format: Maximum Garuda Layer Banned While we did proceed with an unban of mG back in February, it was due in large part to Spriggan Requiem’s ability to counter it. With Sr now banned, focus would inevitably shift back to mG if it were left untouched so we have decided to ban the Maximum Garuda Layer once again. mG does have counters and is better balanced than Hasbro’s Garuda G3, but even so, on the relatively tight Orbit Driver in particular we believe that it remains a nuisance if allowed to remain. The benefits of banning mG (increased viability of mobile Attack types in particular) far outweigh any potential disadvantages (increased viability of Destroy-based stamina types, although these can be handled with mobile Attack types more reliably than mG Orbit can be). We believe that this change in combination with the removal of Sr and G3 will nudge the metagame into a direction where mobile combinations become more attractive than stationary, a change which is positive particularly after such a long period of the latter. In the mean time, please also feel free to continue posting your thoughts on Maximum Garuda and any tests you might conduct in the Maximum Garuda Testing/Discussion thread! This ban will be reviewed as new products are released. Burst Format: Level Chips Banned The Level Chip Layer accessory recently released has proven to be incredibly expensive and difficult to obtain currently. As a result, we have decided to ban Level Chip usage in WBO Organized Play Events until further notice to avoid any unfair competitive advantages gained by players who are able to obtain one. Organizer’s Guide Updates Organizer’s Guide: Tournament Formats – Double Elimination Finals Seeding Clarification An additional clarification for how to order participants in Double Elimination Finals has been added: Organizer’s Guide: Running Your Tournament - Conducting the Finals Wrote: Organizer’s Guide: Event Equipment – New Suggestions Added Given the recent increase in attendance at our events around the world, we’ve added in a few more suggestions to the “Event Equipment” section of the Organizer’s Guide that we feel help to improve the organization of large events. You can find the new additions quoted below: Organizer’s Guide: Event Equipment[/quote Wrote:BeyStadium Organizer’s Guide: Tournament Management – Registration – New Suggestions Added As an additional response to the increased attendance globally at WBO events, we’ve evaluated the “Registration” section of the Tournament Management section in the Organizer’s Guide and added in a few new suggestions to help improve efficiency and lower the potential for mistakes. See below: Organizer’s Guide: Tournament Management - Registration Wrote: Feedback? If you have any feedback on these particular changes, or any questions or suggestions for further adjustments or additions, please post your thoughts below or in the WBO Organized Play Rules thread. Thank you to everyone for your continued support of WBO Organized Play! We appreciate any and all feedback and are always looking to improve and clarify things where possible. View all WBO Organized Play Rules & Resources here. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - RichieBoi - May. 08, 2018 Finally, there can be a tournament with no spriggan requiem combos!! I am pretty sure that by having a tournament in the park with 16 people, barricades and pylons won't be needed since it is a public space. However, is there a WBO app on the phone? When registering attendees, couldn't we ?just ask for their WBO name and double check it with a computer or something? RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Kei - May. 08, 2018 (May. 08, 2018 5:39 AM)RichieBoi Wrote: Finally, there can be a tournament with no spriggan requiem combos!! I am pretty sure that by having a tournament in the park with 16 people, barricades and pylons won't be needed since it is a public space. However, is there a WBO app on the phone? When registering attendees, couldn't we ?just ask for their WBO name and double check it with a computer or something? Yeah, I would say for a 16 player tournament is pylons/barriers definitely aren't needed. This is more of a suggestion for the 40-70 player events that have been happening lately everywhere. They worked great at the last tournament in Toronto: https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Toronto-Beyblade-Burst-Tournament-Report-Z-Comes-Before-A There is no WBO app. The site itself is mobile responsive so there is no need for it. You can double-check usernames yourself and sign people up on the spot if you have time (you may during smaller events, but during huge events with dozens of participants you may not; in which case you'd just take their e-mail, makee an account later, and e-mail them the login credentials afterwards). However, asking people to have their account page open on their phone (or printed) while they are lined up will speed up the communication of who they are and ensure that no spelling mistakes are made (which is important as the exact username is needed for the rankings). RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - FIREFIRE CPB - May. 08, 2018 Whoa that was quick. I'm glad WBO is adapting to changes in metagame fast. I hope it turns out well. I will try to keep a event during this time. Time to spam aB? RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - CloudMaan - May. 08, 2018 Thank you. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - leosama - May. 08, 2018 What would happen to the metagame now? There would a focus on other defensive layers, right (Emperor Forneus and Ark Bahamut)? And less Deep Chaos? Surely there would be some more Attack types now (wV, sX), but because of this, I guess there would be less Stamina types. Maybe Drain Fafnir would come back? RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - ~Mana~ - May. 08, 2018 I don't think dF will return that heavily. Unfortunately, it's pretty prone to Bursting against recent attackers like sX, bL and wV, so it'll be hard to find a place for it. Attack is definitely incentivised though, and that's pretty much what we're going for here as well. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Suhasini - May. 08, 2018 Thanks for this effort! This had to happen with Sr some day. But with bL in the game, and Sr on trial ban wouldn't bL become the new Sr?(Not heavily used but powerful) because what I have seen in the testing thread till now is that it's pretty tough to burst it as well as KO, not so sure about OS. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Snidmist - May. 08, 2018 I would really like to know which combo of maximum garuda is soo overpowered that this layer is getting banned ? (May. 08, 2018 8:49 AM)Suhasini Wrote: Thanks for this effort! This had to happen with Sr some day.Actually improvisation to your message . Bl is the one beyblade which can properly beat sr esr even on bearing . RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - FIREFIRE CPB - May. 08, 2018 (May. 08, 2018 8:49 AM)Snidmist Wrote: I would really like to know which combo of maximum garuda is soo overpowered that this layer is getting banned ?I'm pretty sure mG is banned to allow Attackers to be usable again. To keep metagame fair for all types and bladers. And if we think about it. With mG gone. There is alot more possibilities for other beys to shine. Such as nL, eF, D2, etc Sure there are many straight counters to mG. But if a metagame revolves around countering somethings then it isn't a healthy metagame. Banning mG would allow for more diverse choice of combos. Tell me what battle you would like to watch more. Sr vs Sr? dC vs Sr? Or gZ vs nL? or sX vs nL, bL vs eF, etc RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Snidmist - May. 08, 2018 I really have no intentions to watch any . The only thing important is to win . RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - _callumspicer - May. 08, 2018 bL can counter sR why is there a trial ban when sR has counters? Ik it’s a good bey but don’t ban it, eventually a bey will be better than sr soon especially with cho z released RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - RedPanda2 - May. 08, 2018 this ruling seems like a principle based approach the game had consolidated and simplified around using/countering Sr and mG/G3 the current competitive landscape just massively expanded based on these bans RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Mstubbs88 - May. 08, 2018 Pretty hyped for a new format tbh. RIP Spriggan, but it was time. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Sıon - May. 08, 2018 Is the Sr layer going to be deemed collection purposes only now? I am Sure eF is a more useful buy now, because it has both zero AND yard. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - TL14 - May. 08, 2018 Can I bring my giant homemade 4 feet Anime Stadium to a tournament just for the free play? I think this would attract more participants and get more people interested in the game. Also the metal surface does not damage tips if you launch normally and from @[DraconicArt] s and my testings knockouts happen very frequently if launched correct. As I said it's only for free play so that the spectators and waiting bladers won't get bored. It will not replace the Stadiums used in the actual tournament. ☺ RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - AndyHG - May. 08, 2018 Is Hasbro Format still a thing? I haven't seen any events since last year for it. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Kei - May. 08, 2018 (May. 08, 2018 8:49 AM)Snidmist Wrote: I would really like to know which combo of maximum garuda is soo overpowered that this layer is getting banned ? As mentioned in the opening post, mG on Orbit is the one we looked at the most. There is counters, but the most reliable ones are other pure stamina types. mG has both high defense and stamina; that should never exist in Beyblade ideally. It's quite problematic especially if you have a tighter Orbit Driver. Having mG removed from the picture along with Sr and G3 allows the metagame to shift more towards mobile combinations using things like Destroy, Xtreme, Hunter, or Jolt than stationary (or at least a better balance than there is now where you could win an entire tournament with Sr Bearing). (May. 08, 2018 9:20 AM)Snidmist Wrote: I really have no intentions to watch any . The only thing important is to win . I like winning too, but we're taking a look at this from an objective point of view. The goal of the WBO is to make the game more balanced and fun for everyone; not to make it easy for the players who have the overpowered parts to breeze their way through the preliminaries without much thought. The game was too centralized on Sr before, so it had to go. And we knew the same thing would happen with mG to a certain degree if left alone, so it had to go as well. Previously, as an example I went 10-1 since earlier this year during first stage matches using Spriggan Requiem on Bearing (17-1 if I include matches using Destroy, Yard, or Revolve). That's insane. There was really no room for any thought other than "I should use Sr if I want to win" in the first stage unless you were playing someone you knew also had Spriggan Requiem. The same thing goes for Maximum Garuda. Since release last year, I've gone 15-1 using variants of it in the first stage. Prior to the introduction of Sr (while mG was also banned), there was more uncertainty because the combos you could use were not as impervious to losing as mG or Sr generally is. That might change soon for Sr at least with things like bL, but of course, this is the reason why that ban is just at "trial" status for now and will be re-reviewed next month. (May. 08, 2018 2:23 PM)TL14 Wrote: Can I bring my giant homemade 4 feet Anime Stadium to a tournament just for the free play? Of course! "Free play" means "free play", so anything goes! I think having unique/fun stadiums for that is great. But yes, just make sure it doesn't damage Beyblades. (May. 08, 2018 4:41 PM)AndyHG Wrote: Is Hasbro Format still a thing? I haven't seen any events since last year for it. It is. It just rarely gets organized ... Hasbro Format wasn't too good last I checked, but that was a while ago. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - BladerGem - May. 08, 2018 Are there any formats where you can only use your own parts? Like, you can't borrow parts to make a top-tier combo to sweep the tournament with? RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Frostic Fox - May. 08, 2018 (May. 08, 2018 9:26 PM)BladerGem Wrote: Are there any formats where you can only use your own parts? Like, you can't borrow parts to make a top-tier combo to sweep the tournament with? All the Burst rules and formats are over here. There is only the Standard Format and the Hasbro format. People may only borrow from others who let them, so no one is forced to give anything they don't want to. And if you do borrow, you must clearly say so before each match. There are no limits beyond that besides following the rules in general. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - LordL0Ls - May. 09, 2018 Thank god Maximum Garuda got banned. RIP Sr combos though. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Suhasini - May. 09, 2018 Wait, is this ban on level chips permanent!? Or will it be revised once level chips get a little common? Because at this point the ban is fair, but in future, I think level chips will become a very useful part. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - AndyHG - May. 09, 2018 (May. 09, 2018 10:58 AM)Suhasini Wrote: Wait, is this ban on level chips permanent!? Or will it be revised once level chips get a little common? Because at this point the ban is fair, but in future, I think level chips will become a very useful part.Seems like it’ll be banned until level chips are accessible outside of tt tournaments. RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Snidmist - May. 09, 2018 https://youtu.be/QI8VwXgwHFo This is my small YouTube channel and i have tried to counter maximum garuda . Maybe you guys can take a look at this . There will be a part 2 also . And kei i do agree to what you said but do have a look at my video maybe it can help RE: WBO Organized Play Rule Updates May 2018 – Sr, G3, mG, Level Chips Banned + More - Bathala - May. 09, 2018 Well, it was good (or bad) while it lasted. We're all finally free from the burden of thinking about just countering Sr combos most of the time and that's a good thing. I just got back into this hobby last month and literally all i see are orgies of the same beys and it honestly turned me off even if my favorite design right now is Sr. i've been competing in other hobbies and i know there's a meta but everybody is literally just using one bey and that is not healthy. This decision is fair and just. |