(Jul. 25, 2011 2:32 AM)RowDog Wrote: [ -> ]And if we are never going to have a warning expire why do we have the column there if it always comes up 'NEVER'?
Because that is how it is structured by default, it is not as if we had that column added ...
(Jul. 19, 2010 8:35 PM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I know I am strict and that this is not debatable. However, obviously I do that for the right reasons and not only to be a 'dictator' or something ... Some other message boards have administrators who are strict with the most stupid things, such as rare grammatical errors in people's messages ...
I dont think your strict i think your awesome i think you just try to help out the committe with a voice. Kinda like my mom =D and the rest of the committe is awesome to Kei Blitz Blah Heart and all them =D
Well, thanks to clear this up, Kai-V!
You certainly are the best!
Well, still as you(Kai-V) said, some people with high warnings are experienced too.
Um, I think the tourney attending rules are also strict... I mean, not saying it should be removed, but I heard that you get a 50% warning for not attending a tourney which you were bound to attend...
Well, that might result in quite a few members getting banned...
(Jul. 25, 2011 9:08 AM)Janstarblast Wrote: [ -> ]I mean, not saying it should be removed, but I heard that you get a 50% warning for not attending a tourney which you were bound to attend...
Well, that might result in quite a few members getting banned...
That is false, I do not know where you heard that.
After being here a good while, i have finally found my "beefs" with the WBO. I think that in a lot of topics in the Beyblade discussion, people can't discuss things in a "loose" manner. People are always being ridiculed for doing things in a way forum should be. For instance, today, in the "HELL Minute Molds" topic, I made a joke that th!nk said how doing a lot of solo spin time is as boring as HELL. I, using my forum brain, posted the LOL face picture, and said that it was funny, and now the topic should continue in the way it was going. I thought it would be funny, but even though I apologized for making a joke and being off topic, I got warned. Forums should have things like that allowed, that's what makes a forum more enjoyable, keeps members on the site, and is how forums stay alive. I know this forum won't die because of it's popularity, but I feel that the "forum air" is too tense. People SHOULD be able to make jokes, and laugh, and not get penalized for that. I don't mean disrespect in any way, but Moderators like Kai-V can really make the "forum air" way too tense. Ridiculing people for being new to Beyblade, and not knowing the site, or the hobby. here's an example.
Newbie: is hasbro guna release galaxy pegasus?
Kai-V: If you know anything about Beyblade, you would have known that Galaxy Pegasis is obviously already released by Hasbro. Are you blind?
In this situation, our newbie friend had NO clue about Beyblade, and probably searched for Beyblade on eBay, saw a TT GPeg, and wondered if Hasbro was going to release it at his store, not online. I feel that instead of ridiculing the poor, clueless guy, actually tell him that Yes, Galaxy Peg has been released by Hasbro, in a more, welcoming way. Ridiculing them scares them off. I think we should have a system where...
If you have 0-49 posts, you have one mini picture of Pegasis 105F, like the ones telling you about a new post, old post and that stuff. On top of your 1 Pegasis icon, there will be "Newbie"
If you have 50-149, you are considered a "Newbie+" with still only 1 Pegasis, but the "+" meaning you have access to trade. We have to know you actually know what you are doing before we let you trade.
If you have 150-299 posts, you have 2 Pegasis icons, and you will be considered a "Beginning Blader" which means you have enough knowledge to get you by, and you would know the rules well enough by now.
If you have 300-499 posts, you have 3 Pegasis icons and you would be a "Blader." Even more knowledge.
If you have 500-799 posts, and 4 Pegasis icons, you would be an "Advanced Blader" You have to know a lot about Beys.
If you have 800+ posts, and 5 Pegasis icons, you would be a "Master Blader." The most knowledgeable Bladers out there.
This way, we can see who needs warnings, help, or guidance. I feel Kai-V is really uptight, and makes the forum less un-enjoyable. I said my opinion. Let the flaming commence!
There are people who have well over a thousand posts, but don't actually know much about the beyblade hobby honestly. Not naming anyone though. Also Kai-V makes it less enjoyable for the people whom decide to not follow the rules, she is actually quite nice at times, and she is what keeps this community running uptight.
(Jul. 27, 2011 2:14 AM)Meteo L-Alchemy Wrote: [ -> ]here's an example.
Newbie: is hasbro guna release galaxy pegasus?
Kai-V: If you know anything about Beyblade, you would have known that Galaxy Pegasis is obviously already released by Hasbro. Are you blind?
When did I ever write that ? I would have written "knew", and I always put a space before interrogation marks.
It was an example. I know you never wrote that, but it is an example that can be quite accurate at times. Again, I mean no disrespect. I just want to state my opinion.
, She does keep the forum running uptight, but when you get penalized for making a HARMLESS joke, the forum might be a little TOO uptight.
I would never write that in that context though. I would post : "Of course, since the second season will be shown and it is obviously the main character's Beyblade." or, if it has already been released, I would write : "It is already released. Look around before you post."
And I was not even the one who warned you for that SPAM post you did. Why are you blaming me ?
But if mods and admins had to deal with those type of threads, wouldn't they get frustrated? If they would answer EVERY SINGLE thread like that, it'd add up, and nothing would ever get done.
I don't think it's really strict, it has to be fairly clean and have rules enforced because of the age range the forum has. The staff do their best to make sure posts are on topic because of the impression it gives to other users.
I don't think your rank system would work well. For starters you encourage spam posting, if someone wanted to sell or buy something that's 50 posts. The quickest way to get them - post pointless content which doesn't help the current topic.
Also about the expiry warning, I reckon that mods should revoke warnings (because mods can revoke a warning) if a person truly shows them they have become sensible after mucking up.
i dont think these guys are strict at all. ive made my fair share of bad posts and all that happens to me is deletion of the post. i used to use alot of forums and they are so much stricter and most of them aim at a higher age group.
(Jul. 27, 2011 2:14 AM)Shenron Wrote: [ -> ]After being here a good while, i have finally found my "beefs" with the WBO. I think that in a lot of topics in the Beyblade discussion, people can't discuss things in a "loose" manner. People are always being ridiculed for doing things in a way forum should be. For instance, today, in the "HELL Minute Molds" topic, I made a joke that th!nk said how doing a lot of solo spin time is as boring as HELL. I, using my forum brain, posted the LOL face picture, and said that it was funny, and now the topic should continue in the way it was going. I thought it would be funny, but even though I apologized for making a joke and being off topic, I got warned. Forums should have things like that allowed, that's what makes a forum more enjoyable, keeps members on the site, and is how forums stay alive. I know this forum won't die because of it's popularity, but I feel that the "forum air" is too tense. People SHOULD be able to make jokes, and laugh, and not get penalized for that. I don't mean disrespect in any way, but Moderators like Kai-V can really make the "forum air" way too tense. Ridiculing people for being new to Beyblade, and not knowing the site, or the hobby. here's an example.
You could have still told th!nk it was funny but you could have taken it to a pm. A lot of members on the wbo honestly wouldn't have cared that you thought that it was funny not to mention that it was irrelevant to the threads topic.
(Jul. 27, 2011 2:14 AM)Shenron Wrote: [ -> ]I think we should have a system where...
If you have 0-49 posts, you have one mini picture of Pegasis 105F, like the ones telling you about a new post, old post and that stuff. On top of your 1 Pegasis icon, there will be "Newbie"
If you have 50-149, you are considered a "Newbie+" with still only 1 Pegasis, but the "+" meaning you have access to trade. We have to know you actually know what you are doing before we let you trade.
If you have 150-299 posts, you have 2 Pegasis icons, and you will be considered a "Beginning Blader" which means you have enough knowledge to get you by, and you would know the rules well enough by now.
If you have 300-499 posts, you have 3 Pegasis icons and you would be a "Blader." Even more knowledge.
If you have 500-799 posts, and 4 Pegasis icons, you would be an "Advanced Blader" You have to know a lot about Beys.
If you have 800+ posts, and 5 Pegasis icons, you would be a "Master Blader." The most knowledgeable Bladers out there.
This way, we can see who needs warnings, help, or guidance.
The amount of posts you have made is irrelevant to your knowledge of beyblades especially with the off-topic forums. The only part of this we might have is the newbie part of it. With in the first 50 posts I believe a mod should pm them about there post and tell them what they have failed to do so they do not make the future without a warning. This should really only be used once but it will tell them that need to check the rules and hopefully they will never have to get warned instead of scaring everyone off. However if it is a more major offence they will get warned or banned. As soon as someone reaches after 50 posts they will not get this.
Off topic posts won't count. Only posts in the Beyblade forum would count. This system would also teach the Newbies to "respect their elders," to know their place, so they know who is a member who knows more than them. There has been countless times where a newb has answered another newb's question, and it usually ends up bad. Let's say... only people who are classified as a "Blader" (maybe even "Intermediate Blader") and up can answer questions in the Ask a Question, Get an Answer thread. This system works on every other forum I have gone to. I see no reason why it won't work here.
But some people dont post alot. That might not be so fair for them.
(Jul. 27, 2011 2:14 AM)Shenron Wrote: [ -> ]I think we should have a system where...
If you have 0-49 posts, you have one mini picture of Pegasis 105F, like the ones telling you about a new post, old post and that stuff. On top of your 1 Pegasis icon, there will be "Newbie"
If you have 50-149, you are considered a "Newbie+" with still only 1 Pegasis, but the "+" meaning you have access to trade. We have to know you actually know what you are doing before we let you trade.
If you have 150-299 posts, you have 2 Pegasis icons, and you will be considered a "Beginning Blader" which means you have enough knowledge to get you by, and you would know the rules well enough by now.
If you have 300-499 posts, you have 3 Pegasis icons and you would be a "Blader." Even more knowledge.
If you have 500-799 posts, and 4 Pegasis icons, you would be an "Advanced Blader" You have to know a lot about Beys.
If you have 800+ posts, and 5 Pegasis icons, you would be a "Master Blader." The most knowledgeable Bladers out there.
This way, we can see who needs warnings, help, or guidance.
this system could have at least a trial run to see if it works well, but make the number of posts to qualify for "Master Blader" a much larger number. I have 800+ posts, but I could still be classified as a "Newbie"
To be fair I've seen a couple of warnings I personally thought didn't really deserve warnings, but it's the committee's/mods decision.
As for that "post number" system, it's completely incorrect. I've got one of the highest post counts and I'm not an advanced member. And, some of the smartest members I know don't post very often. Some of the worst members post way too much. Etc etc. Stupid idea.
Advanced members would not exist. You know how to get an antique face, you need GOOD posts? Same here. You need ___ good posts to move up a rank. Like I said, off topic forum posts wouldn't count, and useless posts wouldn't count. It wouldn't be very loose, You would have to follow a strict rule list to move up a rank. I think with help from members, Mods, Committee members, and a few modifications to this system, we can make it work. How will it hurt to try?
If that ranking system were more spread over a period of a couple thousand posts, then it might seem more lgical, but honestly, it sucks bad.
So we'd abolish advanced members and use something based on post count instead?
Welp, can see how that would be at all retarded.
The conditions for the antique face are far looser than those for italics.
(Jul. 27, 2011 2:53 AM)Shenron Wrote: [ -> ]It was an example. I know you never wrote that, but it is an example that can be quite accurate at times. Again, I mean no disrespect. I just want to state my opinion.
, She does keep the forum running uptight, but when you get penalized for making a HARMLESS joke, the forum might be a little TOO uptight.
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-HELL-Min...#pid729129
Okay, I'm going to take full responsibility for this now. First of, you are allowed to make jokes - th!nk made the joke, not you, however.
If you re-read the rules, you'll also find what rule your post breaks:
WBO Community Rules Wrote:If you're making a post, it should have some content. Meaningless posts aren't OK, nor are one-liners like, "cool!" "LOL" etc. Essentially, keep this in mind: only post if you have something to say.
Considering this is literally all your post contains, I think it's absolutely fair you got a warning, since the rules state that you shouldn't do this sort of thing, period. The fact that you were aware that your post had nothing to do with the thread and that you were interrupting makes this even worse.
Regarding your rank idea: why do we need to place quantifiers on posts? Why can't we just accept that posting on a forum to prove your knowledge is all about quality over quantity?
I guess we wouldn't "abolish" Advanced members, but they would be in a different name. Heck, we don't even have to use a post count system, but when the committee members feel we are ready for ranking up, we will be awarded with that. The committee members must see we are worthy to rank up to do so.
i think what shenron means is, at the end of the day its still the bloody internet, and one meaningless LOL in context to a post that was expected to be laughed at was handled in such a way. I'm sure if a mod posted something similar, it would've been ignored.
the post count rank system is ridiculous, as there are users on the board with way more knowledge about Beyblade with a post count of 100 over a user with 1000 posts, with 45% of their posts being in the general area. Integrity of posts determine your character, not how high it is.
surprisingly, every beyblade forum i've been on, from OTC, BeyUK, damashii.net, the group of admins are always rough around the edges. Has anyone ever noticed that we have close to 50,000 members, yet there are only 100 or so online at any given time? you'd think there'd be at least triple that online with our member count.
That's a lot of pointless work, we already have enough ranks, and anything in between is generally handled by recognition by others imo.