(Jul. 11, 2011 10:49 AM)Grovyle32 Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 07, 2011 5:12 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 07, 2011 5:11 AM)eel218 Wrote: [ -> ]they are all way to strict. beyblade is about standing out and having fun, not stupid rules and endless threads that get too confusing. someone needs to lighten up the committee here in the WBO, and that somone is gonna be me. I'm going to figure out how to become a committee member and I'm goint to change the WBO. I'm going to make things a lot better here.
Your spirit is still innocent, you have no idea what you would be dealing with, hah.
I know this might be stupid but this is not SPAM it is quite interesting. WHy not make him a committee member and Heart, Kai-V, Kei, Diamond, Blader DJ, + Daeogor42 can show him/her what they do.
because we might end up with a closed ask a question get a answer thread, people need to prove themselfs i guess its kind of stpid to make a newish member a mod
I KNOW THAT POSEIDON I MEANT IF HE HAD MODERATION SKILLS!
(Jul. 11, 2011 12:17 PM)Grovyle32 Wrote: [ -> ]I KNOW THAT POSEIDON I MEANT IF HE HAD MODERATION SKILLS!
Yes, because he obviously has moderation skills.
Seriously, don't get angry when people call you out on a stupid post you've made.
(Jul. 11, 2011 10:49 AM)Grovyle32 Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 07, 2011 5:12 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 07, 2011 5:11 AM)eel218 Wrote: [ -> ]they are all way to strict. beyblade is about standing out and having fun, not stupid rules and endless threads that get too confusing. someone needs to lighten up the committee here in the WBO, and that somone is gonna be me. I'm going to figure out how to become a committee member and I'm goint to change the WBO. I'm going to make things a lot better here.
Your spirit is still innocent, you have no idea what you would be dealing with, hah.
I know this might be stupid but this is not SPAM it is quite interesting. WHy not make him a committee member and Heart, Kai-V, Kei, Diamond, Blader DJ, + Daeogor42 can show him/her what they do.
I lol'd
(Jul. 07, 2011 5:46 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]Your words do not matter to me because I know that in just a few years, or even just some months, you will mature more and you will understand how you were wrong to post those things and to think like that. Some of our members with high warning levels have even come back just to admit this. When I think before making decisions, I think in four dimensions.
Rodger that.
Seriously, you are completely correct on this. I actually was exactly like this.
Psh, no way you guys are strict. In fact, I think it is just perfect. I think the warning system you guys came up with was ingenious too. You guys balance it out perfectly to mainting a friendly environment where people can discuss beyblades and such. YOU GUYS DESERVE A PARTY! XD
The actual moderators and admins themselves are some of the nicest people ever. Kei and kai-V do alot for the community and not once have they done something and didnt give a detailed explination of why. moderators are selected because they are kind, nice and fair, not because they are crazy overbearing beyblade Führer's of death and misery. The WBO has some of the best moderators out there.
As for the community itself, some people could use a bit of a chill pill but for the most parts, no complaints.
And for those times that the mods seem like angry people, its not true. look at it from thier prospective. They have to deal with noobs and about 1000 people's thoughts and complaints everyday. they deserve a break from us. think of how exhusting mentaly it must be to tell people over and over agian to use the ask a Question get an Answer thread.
Moderators of the WBO, keep it up! =)
(Jul. 12, 2011 10:54 PM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: [ -> ]The actual moderators and admins themselves are some of the nicest people ever. Kei and kai-V do alot for the community and not once have they done something and didnt give a detailed explination of why. moderators are selected because they are kind, nice and fair, not because they are crazy overbearing beyblade Führer's of death and misery. The WBO has some of the best moderators out there.
As for the community itself, some people could use a bit of a chill pill but for the most parts, no complaints.
And for those times that the mods seem like angry people, its not true. look at it from thier prospective. They have to deal with noobs and about 1000 people's thoughts and complaints everyday. they deserve a break from us. think of how exhusting mentaly it must be to tell people over and over agian to use the ask a Question get an Answer thread.
Moderators of the WBO, keep it up! =)
By a break, would you mean a .... PARTY! rofl XD
There's a different strict, and an over powered stuck up modding, for gods sake -they ban Levi!
How do you know about Levi? He was banned before your registration date. Not to mention he lives in a completely different state.
(Jul. 14, 2011 2:33 AM)LVBeyPrince Wrote: [ -> ]There's a different strict, and an over powered stuck up modding, for gods sake -they ban Levi!
Hahah, like you know what Levi did, or who he is.
I am a fervent worshipper of Truth, let it be known. I will not stand for lies.
This is suspicious... Maybe 2 accounts with different location set? Or something like that, but this is my over cautious side...
I bow down to my master and worship... Wait...
(Jul. 11, 2011 10:49 AM)Grovyle32 Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 07, 2011 5:12 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 07, 2011 5:11 AM)eel218 Wrote: [ -> ]they are all way to strict. beyblade is about standing out and having fun, not stupid rules and endless threads that get too confusing. someone needs to lighten up the committee here in the WBO, and that somone is gonna be me. I'm going to figure out how to become a committee member and I'm goint to change the WBO. I'm going to make things a lot better here.
Your spirit is still innocent, you have no idea what you would be dealing with, hah.
I know this might be stupid but this is not SPAM it is quite interesting. WHy not make him a committee member and Heart, Kai-V, Kei, Diamond, Blader DJ, + Daeogor42 can show him/her what they do.
You didn't see the tirade he went on, did you? We almost had another KIE-V on our hands. Anyway, he'd be a lost cause. He seemed to believe that if he became a Committee Member, he could change everything alone. And also believed that he could ACTUALLY do a better job than Kai-V, which makes laugh.
I don't know who this Levi person is, and frankly I don't care. If he/she was banned it was for a signifigant reason. The mods here don't ban people because they see people as a threat to thier power on this site, they ban them to make the community a much nicer place for the people that do the right things. the mod selection itself is very scrict, because only the best of the best should lead us.
Or the banned person is a totally illeterate moron who is a hindrance to the site, but that's rare, Th!nk normally tells those people off. Otherwise, they said something STUPID. I've seen people speak like "I'm SO MUSH AWESUMMER DAN KIE-VEE, so I TAKE HER PLACE AS ADMINNISTRADER!" (Exaggerated a bit...) and not get banned, so if you do get banned, they did something way dumber than acceptable. If so, sucks to be them.
Getting banned is quite difficult. I've not seen a ban I disagree with.
That said, I personally believe an expiry date on warnings would be good (it is standard on most sites), as many well known members have warnings for things that don't seem right any more. It also means that the longer a person is here, the more small warnings pile up (hard to explain, but you should get what I mean, basic probability stuff).
That said, that's only my opinion, and an equally good argument to the contrary likely exists.
Likely. The expiry would probably benefit me, as I somehow managed to build up a 60% warning level within four months when I first joined, but I haven't had one since January. On the other hand, it would also benefit those who simply leave the site to save themselves from getting banned.
(Jul. 08, 2011 7:06 AM)Vintage Wrote: [ -> ]I think people could be more helpful in their posts, rather then just saying somethings not right, or saying things that don't even help at all, and I'm not just talking about the staff.
I actually see this happening a lot where people are asking a question and instead of helping them, which wouldn't take too long, they are putting them down.
Sometimes I don't think mods know how much effort the person has put in before hand. I think before warning someone they should give them a day to have a justified reason for there post or whatever they did before warning them. I fit is something more major of course they should get a warning straight away.
(Jul. 23, 2011 4:28 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]That said, I personally believe an expiry date on warnings would be good (it is standard on most sites), as many well known members have warnings for things that don't seem right any more. It also means that the longer a person is here, the more small warnings pile up.
I believe this really should be happening. Sometimes you just have a small warning but there is still the expiry date next to it, which I don't see why its even there, because all warnings have a taunting
never next to the expiry date. For minor offences like 'small SPAM' etc. there should be like a three month expiry date so the big members who still get the occasional warning don't get that big build up.
Besides those things I think the WBO is a reasonable strictness. I am saying it is strict with its laws but it is fair and that strictness is needed in a good forum.
The first would be a lot of work for mods, but yeah, it's an idea.
I guess searching can be hard if you're not used to the forums and where stuff is. I'm working on a guide, but yeah. Still, there are a lot of questions that can easily be answered by a simple search.
But it's also worth saying that these people need to learn that we expect them to search. Personally, just not answering bad questions would be a great thing, instead of yelling, but then this leads to two things:
1. Other people who aren't aware of the policy answer them, and people assume it's okay to be lazy.
- This can also lead to many incorrect answer being given, and bad "knowledge" spreading, that we'd have to correct.
2. The person keeps asking the stupid question, over and over again.
As I've mentioned, limiting the people who could answer questions would solve that largely (with a note: if your question isn't answered, then it's already been answered/you should search). However, as Kai-V has said (if I recall) it is a lot of work and extremely difficult to organise/do.
(Jul. 23, 2011 4:28 AM)th!nk Wrote: [ -> ]Getting banned is quite difficult. I've not seen a ban I disagree with.
That said, I personally believe an expiry date on warnings would be good (it is standard on most sites), as many well known members have warnings for things that don't seem right any more. It also means that the longer a person is here, the more small warnings pile up (hard to explain, but you should get what I mean, basic probability stuff).
That said, that's only my opinion, and an equally good argument to the contrary likely exists.
Well, even I agree to that... I am still repenting for a mistake I made in the past....
If I were Kai-V:
If warning levels had an expiry date, people would take them for granted. If they remain with them forever, then they will learn that they must maintain the code of conduct of this site. End.
Now for my point of view-
Well, some really dumb, and useless people will outnumber us. The Build Me a Combo thread would be a garbage dump site, while other threads would be SPAM treasures. Other than that, Ask Q Get A will become repetitive...
Experienced people (like you) will become frustrated, and this site would not remain a happy place. Plus, more work for mods. That's all!
EDIT- OK, Beaten by th!nk by a whoppin' 5 minutes.... Am I too slow? Still, we both share the same thoughts!
For your first point about them expiring, make it a long expiry date (1 year), or, make them expire if they aren't warned again in, say, 6 months or whatever, I dunno. The periods can be debated. That's what most sites do, however, as far as I know.
Here are situations :
- Someone has a low warning level but wants it gone because it unnerves them : yo, you hated it when it happened, so you should not repeat it or break any other rules, therefore I am not worried about more warnings accumulating on your account.
- Someone got some warnings for stupid things in the past, and later they do other things that bring them to a relatively high warning level : too bad, I can make the difference between people, and if you are still continuing to break the rules, even months after the previous warnings spontaneously one day and that I know that your posts are generally not the best in the world at all, then you deserve it, because you also should have learned better by then.
- Someone got some warnings for stupid things in the past, really improve, and somehow break a rule much later on : why are you still breaking the rules ? You have no excuse for not knowing better than to do that. Knowing how I see your posts in general and you as a member, it can make the difference between a ten-percent or a twenty-percent warning level for something, but there really is no excuse.
Thanks, I lose sight of the big picture sometimes. I guess if they have been here long enough to know what to avoid, they shouldn't have to worry. I also forgot to take into account the discretion of moderators, which obviously is a huge factor.
Well said, and that is my only concern put to rest.
The only case where we would really bother to consider revoking warnings is with a member who has a very high warning level, who really improved, in general, and who contributes a lot to the site with a decent behaviour : we would not really want them to be gone forever for a simple ten-percent warning for being off-topic or something like that, if they are at ninety percent ...
Which I guess is all anyone should need, honestly. Thanks for clearing that up.
(Jul. 24, 2011 10:27 AM)Janstarblast Wrote: [ -> ]If warning levels had an expiry date, people would take them for granted. If they remain with them forever, then they will learn that they must maintain the code of conduct of this site. End.
But if it was like a 3 or 6 month expiry date they will still need to improve in the meantime. A continuously bad poster could easily get banned within in the timeframe. Also the fact is that it should only be expiry dates for minor offences which have a low warning percentage so that people shouldn't even get banned over things like that it should be right to get rid of them after a while.
And if we are never going to have a warning expire why do we have the column there if it always comes up 'NEVER'?