The purpose of this thread is for me to sniff out all of the possible microptimizations to create a truly meta slave deck, just like how in the picture with how wizard rod 3-60 ball outspins wizard rod 9-60 ball as an example, or certain ratchets with molds that doesn't allow them to shake and results In more stamina retention and loss from shaky ratchets.

You might ask, why can't you just go check the winning combos? well, suboptimal combos always slip through the gaps into first place in a game like this, and there isn't enough large pool of data unlike pokemon showdown matches for this.

if there is any place to find the winning combos for the major recent Japanese tours tho, please tell me.

Anyways, to start this thread off I would like to begin testing for wizard rod 3-60 Under needle, and whether switching to 9-60 will have a large impact on its matchup versus rod ball. oh yeah, also test the performance difference between the shaky and non shaky new mold ratchets on rod as well.

only if I had a TT stadium lmao.

few more things I would love results on: does the LAD and burst resistance from 9-60 make up for the stamina provided by 3-60 on rod Under needle? is rod hexa better into rod ball in stamina mirrors? how much better does the new mold Hasbro ratchets that doesn't shake around on a bey do versus an old mold one? etc.

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EDIT: picture link broke lmao

The purpose of this thread is for me to sniff out all of the possible microptimizations to create a truly meta slave deck, just like how in the picture with how wizard rod 3-60 ball outspins wizard rod 9-60 ball as an example, or certain ratchets with molds that doesn't allow them to shake and results In more stamina retention and loss from shaky ratchets.

You might ask, why can't you just go check the winning combos? well, suboptimal combos always slip through the gaps into first place in a game like this, and there isn't enough large pool of data unlike pokemon showdown matches for this.

if there is any place to find the winning combos for the major recent Japanese tours tho, please tell me.

Anyways, to start this thread off I would like to begin testing for wizard rod 3-60 Under needle, and whether switching to 9-60 will have a large impact on its matchup versus rod ball. oh yeah, also test the performance difference between the shaky and non shaky new mold ratchets on rod as well.

only if I had a TT stadium lmao.

few more things I would love results on: does the LAD and burst resistance from 9-60 make up for the stamina provided by 3-60 on rod Under needle? is rod hexa better into rod ball in stamina mirrors? how much better does the new mold Hasbro ratchets that doesn't shake around on a bey do versus an old mold one? etc.

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EDIT: picture link broke lmao

Hexa loses the stamina mirror, but it can be made to attack the other rod. It probably won’t ko though unless you get a really hard hit. 

What I wonder the most is does the burst resistance of hexa let you lose less points over time than using ball or low orb and going 50/50 or 60/40 on the Rod mirror 

Because you’re losing 100% of the time against Rod ball if you use hexa but you prevent a lot of bursts

Under needle’s ko resistance, or lack thereof being a needle bit, makes me hesitant to recommend it seeing as it doesn’t have burst res either. But maybe it’s actually like hexa and has ko res

i just got one for burst