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Thermal Serpent WA130WD [PLS READ]

Jan. 30, 2011  3:15 AM
 
Conditions:
MFB Attack Stadium
Launched at the same time and at 80% power
WD in very good condition

Thermal Serpent WA130WD vs Burn [Mold 1] Bull AD145WD

Round 1-TS by OS
Round 2-BB by OS
Round 3-TS by OS
Round 4-BB by OS
Round 5-Draw
Round 6-TS by OS
Round 7-TS by OS
Round 8-TS by OS
Round 9-TS by OS
Round 10-TS by KO (It is hard to believe but maybe because of recoil)

TS Win Percentage=75%
BB Win Percentage=25%

EDIT: This combo works by using recoil to let your opponent lose spin while tanking with high stamina
PS: I will not be posting more since I got no time
Jan. 30, 2011  3:46 AM
 
Why would you launch Thermal Serpent at 80% power? Anyway, you need to explain WHY this works and test it against more Beyblades. Anyway, it's quite interesting.
Jan. 30, 2011  9:03 AM
 
What do you mean by "very good condition"? Is your WD new?
And launched at the same time? Both at 80%? I find that to be a little odd...
Jan. 30, 2011  9:19 AM
 
I was with my bro. It woud be a little more fair if the 2 were launched together and the WDs are somewhat like new
Jan. 30, 2011  9:26 AM
 
I guess Thermal Destabilize Burn Bull. Could you test it against Burn Bull 100WD instead?
Jan. 30, 2011  9:27 AM
 
ok will try
Feb. 04, 2011  1:47 AM
 
where are the tests results?
Feb. 04, 2011  1:59 AM
 
This shouldn't of been turned into a whole thread. Please list your results at another MFB tier list.
A thermal on a WD???? That's crazy talk. No offense. Thats like saying putting a Flame wheel on WD is a good idea. WD was meant to support heavy wheels like Basalt, and Earth.
Feb. 04, 2011  2:13 AM
 
(Feb. 04, 2011  1:59 AM)BeyBladestation Wrote: WD was meant to support heavy wheels like Basalt, and Earth.

that is so incorrect, from the beywiki
Quote:Because of its massive width that reaches the edge of the Bottom's perimeter, it is able to wobble at a significantly larger angle for a longer period of time than D or SD, and at a much lower spin rate. This can be advantageous in many battles, particularly those between two Stamina types when they are about to topple over
, and flame is heavier then earth (earth isnt that heavy in the first place) :\

interesting results, but test vs other beys please
Feb. 04, 2011  2:46 AM
 
Thermal Serpent WA130WD is probably only winning because it is on a lower spin track then Burn Bull AD145WD.
You Probably have a destabilizer combo on your hands, because destablilizer's destroy pure stamina and defense types.
Feb. 04, 2011  1:42 PM
 
I can do test with my friend raven0909 as he has the beys to make that combo(if he still have the wings on wa130.) But I don't have the right stadium.
Feb. 04, 2011  3:12 PM
 
(Feb. 04, 2011  2:13 AM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: \
that is so incorrect and flame is heavier then earth (earth isnt that heavy in the first place) :\

interesting results, but test vs other beys please
No, it is not incorrect, because for he is using an attack stadium, with the thermal on the WD, it will easily get pushed around, and get knocked out. Did you think of that, huh? Especially with the WD, if he put an SD on, things would be different. Please take a second to elaborate what I was saying.

EDIT: This isn't a half bad beyblade. I tried it myself though. Pretty good... but EASILY gets pushed around. It could be CONSIDERED at Destab. No I am not testing this beyblade, therefore no results.
Feb. 04, 2011  3:30 PM
 
(Feb. 04, 2011  3:12 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote:
(Feb. 04, 2011  2:13 AM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: \
that is so incorrect and flame is heavier then earth (earth isnt that heavy in the first place) :\

interesting results, but test vs other beys please
No, it is not incorrect, because for he is using an attack stadium, with the thermal on the WD, it will easily get pushed around, and get knocked out. Did you think of that, huh? Especially with the WD, if he put an SD on, things would be different. Please take a second to elaborate what I was saying.

EDIT: This isn't a half bad beyblade. I tried it myself though. Pretty good... but EASILY gets pushed around. It could be CONSIDERED at Destab. No I am not testing this beyblade, therefore no results.

and have you considered the part where he said he launched at 80% power?

it's common practice to launch WD and WB at 80% or less power as it causes them to not get pushed around so much and centre them into the middle of the stadium. the reason it's getting pushed around is because it's light and launching at full power causes it to spin into the path of attack blades.

WD is a standard part for both stamina and defence beyblades, it is not intentionaly designed for heavy blades. It's main use is the fact that it has an increased 'wobble' time, meaning it lasts slightly longer toward the end of a match at the cost of some spin velocity.

please don't say things like 'did you considered that, huh?' it is very rude, and he was simply making a point.
Feb. 04, 2011  3:32 PM
 
WD is only a standard for Stamina. If you use it for Defense, you do not know what you are doing. It should also always be launched with full power ...
Feb. 04, 2011  3:35 PM
 
arkboy Just realized that. Thank you. And I know what I'm saying so don't think you're all boss. But seriously you guys have to lay off on these self reliant comments. This could of been posted in the MFB Tiers list as a results so no confusion would be present. Also arkboy Didn;t you notice that his WD was in VERY good condition? So that 80% launch power really isn't needed.
(Feb. 04, 2011  3:32 PM)Kai-V Wrote: WD is only a standard for Stamina. If you use it for Defense, you do not know what you are doing. It shouls also always be launched with full power ...
\FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS!!!!!!! YES THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! What I was tying to say!!!!
Feb. 04, 2011  3:40 PM
 
i've always used it for defence as well as WB, it gives it a slight edge in stamina toward the end of a match. I've always found when i launch it at full power, it's circles out toward the edge of the stadium, compared to a weaker launch which causes it to sit in the centre.

i know you are the admin Kai-V, but that comment was a little harsh... not all parts are restricted to being used effectively for one type.
Feb. 04, 2011  3:47 PM
 
(Feb. 04, 2011  3:40 PM)arkboy Wrote: i know you are the admin Kai-V, but that comment was a little harsh... not all parts are restricted to being used effectively for one type.
You really think that was harsh? She's right, she knows how WB/WD should be used... and why. In this combo, to ME, it makes no sense to put a tip like WD on a wheel like Thermal on 80% power, without getting knocked out. Thats what I've been saying. This thread should totally be removed and become a post in a testing thread. Not saying it's bad, but it totally would stop confusion/
Feb. 04, 2011  3:57 PM
 
in this instance you're right, I'm not disagreeing with that.

my problem was with parts being standardised into pigeon-holes. To say one part is exclusively for use in a particular type, and that anyone who uses it otherwise doesn't know what they're doing is harsh, and counter productive, surely that is why we do testing in the first place? I also found that comment hurtful, that was all, call me a baby or whatever, but i find it particularly unfair to say one thing and get told that I do not know what I'm doing.

you are right though, it needs to go into MFB lists to stop any confusion maybe?
Feb. 04, 2011  4:03 PM
 
(Feb. 04, 2011  3:12 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote:
(Feb. 04, 2011  2:13 AM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: \
that is so incorrect and flame is heavier then earth (earth isnt that heavy in the first place) :\

interesting results, but test vs other beys please
No, it is not incorrect, because for he is using an attack stadium, with the thermal on the WD, it will easily get pushed around, and get knocked out. Did you think of that, huh? Especially with the WD, if he put an SD on, things would be different. Please take a second to elaborate what I was saying.

unfortunately in stamina vs stamina (and this is a stamina vs stamina testing) they dont get knocked out and pushed around (because stamina types dont have enough power to push around and KO another stamina type), and WD holds it ground better then SD so it will get knocked out and pushed around less with WD then SD, did you research, huh? <- offtopic sorry
Feb. 04, 2011  4:51 PM
 
A harsh comment for a harsh reality :

MF Earth Bull GB145WD Vs. MF Lightning L Drago 85RF
Earth Bull win rate : 0%. (0/5)

MF Earth Bull GB145WB Vs. MF Lightning L Drago 85RF
Earth Bull win rate : 40%. (2/5)

If your WD circles the stadium, then obviously it is not acting like a Defense Bottom ... Furthermore, I think the only standards for Defense are CS, RSF and RS.
Feb. 04, 2011  6:31 PM
 
(Feb. 04, 2011  4:03 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: unfortunately in stamina vs stamina (and this is a stamina vs stamina testing) they dont get knocked out and pushed around (because stamina types dont have enough power to push around and KO another stamina type), and WD holds it ground better then SD so it will get knocked out and pushed around less with WD then SD, did you research, huh? <- offtopic sorry
Exactly! If he were to test it against an attack type it would lose.... epically. Look at Kai'v's results below your post for further proof.
Yes, next time please use such a tip like RS, or RSF.
Feb. 04, 2011  6:53 PM
 
(Feb. 04, 2011  6:31 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote:
(Feb. 04, 2011  4:03 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: unfortunately in stamina vs stamina (and this is a stamina vs stamina testing) they dont get knocked out and pushed around (because stamina types dont have enough power to push around and KO another stamina type), and WD holds it ground better then SD so it will get knocked out and pushed around less with WD then SD, did you research, huh? <- offtopic sorry
Exactly! If he were to test it against an attack type it would lose.... epically. Look at Kai'v's results below your post for further proof.
Yes, next time please use such a tip like RS, or RSF.

then why are you saying that WD is not good for thermal? i knew this combo is a stamina combo from the beginning and that should be tested only VS stamina, i never said that it should be tested vs any other thing then stamina. why do you think i am saying something i am not all the time?
and why use RS or RSF for a stamina combo?
Feb. 04, 2011  7:17 PM
 
(Feb. 04, 2011  6:53 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: then why are you saying that WD is not good for thermal? i knew this combo is a stamina combo from the beginning and that should be tested only VS stamina, i never said that it should be tested vs any other thing then stamina. why do you think i am saying something i am not all the time?
and why use RS or RSF for a stamina combo?
I'm comparing it to an atttack top tier smarts. RS and RSF are great tips. Why not? Look at Kai-V's comment
Feb. 04, 2011  8:50 PM
 
I believe this combo only works on Burn based stamina combos because of their high recoil. Against Earth, there's no chance.
Feb. 04, 2011  8:59 PM
 
ho hum........
All these new combos....they have potential at first....but then they are countered by an existing top tier combo....
This is one of those Combos.....Speechless
anyways proper testing (Like, abosolutely proper) tests against all of one type of top tire combos or more?
idk..