Do you guys love Hasbro beys or takara tomy beys? I personally love Takara tomy beyblades. I feel that the Hasbro ones were good up-to Switchstrike, after which, they steadily declined in quality (what with no metal, rubber or anything that makes a beyblade different from other tops). 

I'm sure a lot of you have questions like
Why are Hasbro beyblades so bad when it comes to being anime-accurate? 
Why are Takara tomy beyblades never released outside Asia and why are all of their events and videos region locked? Don't they realize there are beyblades fans outside Japan? Don't they care? 
But before we go on to diss on Hasbro or TT, I would like to share a few points why I think Hasbro or TT is doing what they are doing. 

1. Why is TT not selling outside Asia? 

TT is not a beyblade company,  it's a toy company. Beyblade is just one of their products. They make many other toys which means they cannot spend all their money on making and selling beyblades. If they have to sell outside Japan, yes, they'll have more customers. But imagine all the extra money they'll have to spend in shipping their products worldwide. Not to mention the money they'll have to pay to advertise their products in different languages. If TT ships world wide, then Hasbro most likely wouldn't be making beys anymore (since they are only making beys since TT is letting them). So all the dubbed versions of the anime will now be TT's job. Most likely that cost would be so high that they wouldn't make much profit overall. So that's the reason that TT beys cannot be found outside Asia. 

2. Why are beyblade events and games region locked? 

If they aren't, then there will be people worldwide who win prizes in these events. That means TT will have to spend money shipping these products to them. Not to mention TT will have to start thinking of regular international tournaments, which will eat away at a lot of their money and time. 

3. Don't they want people outside Japan buying beyblades? 

They are a toy company! Of course they do! I'm sure the international fan base outside Japan is much bigger than the Japanese beyblading community. But this is where eBay and Amazon (and other online stores, some of them selling only anime products) come in. Sellers from these websites may place bulk orders to TT for every beyblade. How do you think so many eBay seller have so many beyblades to sell? So TT depends heavily on international sellers to sell their products since Now they won't have to pay for shipping. It's a win-win-win for TT, the eBay seller and the beyblade fan outside Japan. 

4. Why are Hasbro beys released so long after TT? 

It's the same reason as above. TT really wants their beyblade to be sold internationally. If Hasbro started selling beyblades at the same time as TT, there won't be many people trying to get TT beys from Japan. And TT can control how long after Hasbro should start to sell beyblades, since TT is the one who sells the beyblade rights to Hasbro. 

5. Why does TT never release different kinds of stadium?

I personally think this was part of the deal between TT and Hasbro. If you want anime beys, buy TT. If you want anime stadiums,  buy Hasbro. 
Another reason could be since TT sells only in Asia (mainly Japan). People just don't buy that many stadiums since it's a long term investment. So designing different kinds of stadiums for a small audience is a waste of money for TT.

Now for the Hasbro question you've all been waiting for-

6. Why are Hasbro beyblades so bad when compared to TT(personal opinion,  since I love the rubber and the metal and the gimmicks used in TT) 

Hasbro is also a toy company. And beyblade is a product not originally made by Hasbro. It's a TT idea. Now Hasbro knows that by the time it starts selling beyblades,  with today's easy access to Japanese toys, many people is America and Europe would have already bought beys from TT. And unlike TT, Hasbro is selling beyblades not only in its own country, but three continents! Think of how many countries that is! Imagine all the dubbing and the shipping cost involved! Yes, there are more people to buy beyblades from Hasbro now. And that's exactly what Hasbro depends on. Since beyblade is not one of Hasbro's own products and since it's already been out in Japan for a while, Hasbro is already at a disadvantage. And so it decides to focus more on quantity than quality. It knows that however cheaply it makes beyblades, there will be many people who buy from them because that's what is available in nearby stores. You can see how even at the end of metal fight Hasbro tried to make beys cheaply by cutting out some metal and gimmicks in 4D beys. This wasn't true during plastic gen when it was actually difficult to get TT beys outside Japan. The world wasn't as connected as it is today. 

7. Why were Hasbro beys good upto Switchstrike? 

Switchstrike (which is mostly about Burst God) is mostly plastic. So the only other material other than plastic they have to use is rubber. So overall it's cheaper to make. Plus, I think back at that time, Hasbro was still trying to focus both on quality and quantity. 

So the next time you decide to blame Hasbro, remember, it may be our buying more of TT beys that makes Hasbro make such bad beys.(for anyone who shares my opinion on Hasbro beys) 

I personally love TT beys and will continue to buy them. What about you guys?

I'm partial to TT beys. Started out with Hasbro beys until I got my first TT. I feel like TT beys are just built better and have awesome gimmicks.

I'm partial to TT beys. Started out with Hasbro beys until I got my first TT. I feel like TT beys are just built better and have awesome gimmicks.

Yes.. TT beys are much better these days for sure. Back during the plastic gen, TT and Hasbro beys were the same. I used to get Hasbro then. But now I only own Hasbro for those beys that are super rare in TT (4 Hasbro beys in all lol). But still, there's a reason that Hasbro is so bad.. And it isn't all their fault. That's why I made this post. I love TT beys too

I'm partial to TT beys. Started out with Hasbro beys until I got my first TT. I feel like TT beys are just built better and have awesome gimmicks.

Yes.. TT beys are much better these days for sure. Back during the plastic gen, TT and Hasbro beys were the same. I used to get Hasbro then. But now I only own Hasbro for those beys that are super rare in TT (4 Hasbro beys in all lol). But still, there's a reason that Hasbro is so bad.. And it isn't all their fault. That's why I made this post. I love TT beys too

I got into beys during the burst era. so I cant say I've played with a plastic gen bey. So from my experience TT beys are better. I'm not sure what Hasbro thought when the started making the beys they do now. Its depressing walking into Walmart and seeing the Hasbro beys lol.

Yes.. TT beys are much better these days for sure. Back during the plastic gen, TT and Hasbro beys were the same. I used to get Hasbro then. But now I only own Hasbro for those beys that are super rare in TT (4 Hasbro beys in all lol). But still, there's a reason that Hasbro is so bad.. And it isn't all their fault. That's why I made this post. I love TT beys too

I got into beys during the burst era. so I cant say I've played with a plastic gen bey. So from my experience TT beys are better. I'm not sure what Hasbro thought when the started making the beys they do now. Its depressing walking into Walmart and seeing the Hasbro beys lol.

Yes I know how you feel. .but that is what I'm saying. There's a reason Hasbro is making bad beys and it is because they have to sell to a very large audience. They also have the disadvantage that many people have bought tt by the time Hasbro is released..so Hasbro just tries to make as much money as possible while spending as little as possible

I got into beys during the burst era. so I cant say I've played with a plastic gen bey. So from my experience TT beys are better. I'm not sure what Hasbro thought when the started making the beys they do now. Its depressing walking into Walmart and seeing the Hasbro beys lol.

Yes I know how you feel. .but that is what I'm saying. There's a reason Hasbro is making bad beys and it is because they have to sell to a very large audience. They also have the disadvantage that many people have bought tt by the time Hasbro is released..so Hasbro just tries to make as much money as possible while spending as little as possible

That's very true Hasbro is always behind TT on release dates. I see your point on the audience as well. But you would think if your tryin to make money you'd spend alittle more to make a better product to please that audience.

I’m buying both as of now. Hypersphere does take away slot from their anime and tt gimmick, but it’s still very fun

I’m buying both as of now. Hypersphere does take away slot from their anime and tt gimmick, but it’s still very fun

The hypersphere beys were pretty fun. I've gotten to play with a few. Havent bought any. It was a decent gimmick on Hasbros part.

So the next time you decide to blame Hasbro, remember, it may be our buying more of TT beys that makes Hasbro make such bad beys.(for anyone who shares my opinion on Hasbro beys) 

I personally love TT beys and will continue to buy them. What about you guys?

This is rather foolish a thought to say that buying TT stuff made Hasbro start doing weird things. Hasbro made plenty of high quality Anime-accurate beys back in the MFB/Shogun Steel era. Only thing they really dropped was one portion of the 4D line (which they later rectified most of) and stickers on Shogun Steel/Zero-G wheels, which are admittedly quite a pain to deal with and were probably why Hasbro released so many painted wheels anyways. What is preventing them from resuming this earlier pattern of accuracy both with the Plastic gen, HMS, and MFB/Shogun Steel lines? Why is it specifically Burst which causes these oddities when they were (almost) nonexistent prior?

Really, I feel like Hasbro started to get some funky ideas about what we as consumers want and totally flopped on a large part of their fans. Hasbro and TT do work together on every Hasbro part, but as I understand Hasbro has full control over what they tell TT the western market wants. If Hasbro says "they want wild and crazy driver gimmicks" to TT, then TT is none the wiser that it's really not what people are hoping for and you you get things like Slingshock and Hypersphere as a result. In the end Hasbro gets these weird parts because Hasbro wants them, and though TT is part of the development process they're being strung along by Hasbro more than they realize.

My opinion on Turbo/Slingshock is that they were trying to be cool over functional to draw attention to the line, but at least they kept enough functionality that it wasn't a total wash (outside of Needle-S. That's just a failure in design right there). A little irritating that we didn't get some parts done accurately like rubber on Dimension, but a few others were improved more than anything such as Yard-S and Wedge-S. They've downright claimed that the lack of metal on layers was for "balance", but let's be honest Hasbro really hasn't done a good job in "balancing" things against one another, and it feels more like they're afraid of power creep or outclassing anything they've released prior than focusing on power balances at all.

Some of the troubles could also be an issue caused by the loss of Toys-R-Us. It did hurt Hasbro significantly, though it didn't destroy the company or anything. Given that it happened during Evolution/Switchstrike, it feels like they decided about then to go crazy with their designs for attention grabbing like I mentioned earlier. Whether true or not, its my personal theory as to why they've suddenly started doing Slingshock and Hypersphere as gimmicks when everything else was previously accurate.

Regarding some of the actual points you've made:

2: The TT Beyblade app was in English at one point (I know the BeybladeGeeks still have an old video on it), but they decided to drop it for what I can only presume was issues regarding shipping out prizes internationally as you claimed. The Battle Zero game though doesn't make nearly as much sense short of either a desire not to step on Hasbro's toes or hire translators for international audiences.

4: I believe it's a combination of needing time to redesign parts as they want to and partially because dumping a ton of releases all at once is bad for a toy line. It took Hasbro a while to get going as they started doing business on their end (polling for popularity, deciding what to do with their license, e.t.c.), so they can't really catch up without dumping a ton of new beys at once which is bad for kids on an allowance and would make sales rather difficult. They're better off releasing them on a steady schedule like TT does so their target audience can afford them when they see them, not to mention making sure that the dub isn't too far behind or ahead of their schedule so people aren't wondering "when is this thing gonna be important on TV?". In the end kids love to get whatever beys the love to see on TV, so ensuring that the dus is relevant at the time is a big boon. Either way there's a lot more to it than just "Hasbro and TT compete with each other", which isn't really true at all as they don't release in the same markets. Many kids in the US aren't even gonna know that TT exists, and Amazon/eBay sellers aren't really competitors in this fashion either.

5: TT did actually release quite a few different stadiums, like the Dual Cyclone stadium, two different iterations of a Mugen stadium, B-19 stadium, Burst Beystadium Wide Type, and Big Beystadium. Hasbro does design more so they can release more stadium sets to draw the eye or use the wild gimmicks they've come up with, but TT's Standard Type stadium is by far the most balanced and sort of fits with Japan's competitive nature well which is why its so common.

6/7: Basically everything above is a big callout on these, both providing info on why Hasbro's possibly done some weird things combined with what happened that might have been the turning point (a.k.a. Toys-R-Us going out) to create such wild things as Slingshock and Hypersphere.

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Cincinnati-based Organizer, and owner of every single currently released TT Burst bey part in at least one color. Hard to think of anything I don't have from MFB either...

So the next time you decide to blame Hasbro, remember, it may be our buying more of TT beys that makes Hasbro make such bad beys.(for anyone who shares my opinion on Hasbro beys) 

I personally love TT beys and will continue to buy them. What about you guys?

This is rather foolish a thought to say that buying TT stuff made Hasbro start doing weird things. Hasbro made plenty of high quality Anime-accurate beys back in the MFB/Shogun Steel era. Only thing they really dropped was one portion of the 4D line (which they later rectified most of) and stickers on Shogun Steel/Zero-G wheels, which are admittedly quite a pain to deal with and were probably why Hasbro released so many painted wheels anyways. What is preventing them from resuming this earlier pattern of accuracy both with the Plastic gen, HMS, and MFB/Shogun Steel lines? Why is it specifically Burst which causes these oddities when they were (almost) nonexistent prior?

Really, I feel like Hasbro started to get some funky ideas about what we as consumers want and totally flopped on a large part of their fans. Hasbro and TT do work together on every Hasbro part, but as I understand Hasbro has full control over what they tell TT the western market wants. If Hasbro says "they want wild and crazy driver gimmicks" to TT, then TT is none the wiser that it's really not what people are hoping for and you you get things like Slingshock and Hypersphere as a result. In the end Hasbro gets these weird parts because Hasbro wants them, and though TT is part of the development process they're being strung along by Hasbro more than they realize.

My opinion on Turbo/Slingshock is that they were trying to be cool over functional to draw attention to the line, but at least they kept enough functionality that it wasn't a total wash (outside of Needle-S. That's just a failure in design right there). A little irritating that we didn't get some parts done accurately like rubber on Dimension, but a few others were improved more than anything such as Yard-S and Wedge-S. They've downright claimed that the lack of metal on layers was for "balance", but let's be honest Hasbro really hasn't done a good job in "balancing" things against one another, and it feels more like they're afraid of power creep or outclassing anything they've released prior than focusing on power balances at all.

Some of the troubles could also be an issue caused by the loss of Toys-R-Us. It did hurt Hasbro significantly, though it didn't destroy the company or anything. Given that it happened during Evolution/Switchstrike, it feels like they decided about then to go crazy with their designs for attention grabbing like I mentioned earlier. Whether true or not, its my personal theory as to why they've suddenly started doing Slingshock and Hypersphere as gimmicks when everything else was previously accurate.

Regarding some of the actual points you've made:

2: The TT Beyblade app was in English at one point (I know the BeybladeGeeks still have an old video on it), but they decided to drop it for what I can only presume was issues regarding shipping out prizes internationally as you claimed. The Battle Zero game though doesn't make nearly as much sense short of either a desire not to step on Hasbro's toes or hire translators for international audiences.

4:  I believe it's a combination of needing time to redesign parts as they want to and partially because dumping a ton of releases all at once is bad for a toy line. It took Hasbro a while to get going as they started doing business on their end (polling for popularity, deciding what to do with their license, e.t.c.), so they can't really catch up without dumping a ton of new beys at once which is bad for kids on an allowance and would make sales rather difficult. They're better off releasing them on a steady schedule like TT does so their target audience can afford them when they see them, not to mention making sure that the dub isn't too far behind or ahead of their schedule so people aren't wondering "when is this thing gonna be important on TV?". In the end kids love to get whatever beys the love to see on TV, so ensuring that the dus is relevant at the time is a big boon. Either way there's a lot more to it than just "Hasbro and TT compete with each other", which isn't really true at all as they don't release in the same markets. Many kids in the US aren't even gonna know that TT exists, and Amazon/eBay sellers aren't really competitors in this fashion either.

5: TT did actually release quite a few different stadiums, like the Dual Cyclone stadium, two different iterations of a Mugen stadium, B-19 stadium, Burst Beystadium Wide Type, and Big Beystadium. Hasbro does design more so they can release more stadium sets to draw the eye or use the wild gimmicks they've come up with, but TT's Standard Type stadium is by far the most balanced and sort of fits with Japan's competitive nature well which is why its so common.

6/7: Basically everything above is a big callout on these, both providing info on why Hasbro's possibly done some weird things combined with what happened that might have been the turning point (a.k.a. Toys-R-Us going out) to create such wild things as Slingshock and Hypersphere.

You make some really valid points. Though I feel my reasoning has sense beind it.. I can see how your theory would be right as well. .In the end, whether they did it for the attention or for making the production cheap, straying away from what tt was doing to such a great extent was a bad idea in my opinion.

Well, if Hasbro can spend less on beys then that is good for them.

Well, if Hasbro can spend less on beys then that is good for them.

How much less can Hasbro spend? The cost cutting on beys will only insure their beys will continue to decline.

Well, if Hasbro can spend less on beys then that is good for them.

How much less can Hasbro spend? The cost cutting on beys will only insure their beys will continue to decline.

Well from a business perspective, Hasbro beys are half or less the price of Takara Tomy beys. Hasbro may be cutting costs by making beys cheaper to even out profits to cost.

I think one element everyone is missing is that maybe 10% or less of the entire beyblade community worldwide is into official competitive stuff and sites such as this. My daughter and I just got into this a few weeks ago. Im a competitive person and like magic cards in my generation, I thought beys could connect my daughter and I and allow us to go to tournaments and what not. And honestly there is no point competing without rank lol. So it brought me here to learn about what the meta is..... which introduced me to TT. Now 3 weeks later we have over a dozen TT beys with most relevant drivers and layers. And we also have almost everything hasbro currently offers that's retail right now at your local target or Wally world. I'll admit, the bey search was fun for a few days running around different locations while on my way to customers for work. Yes during a pandemic im rolling into target with a skull mask on checking your toy aisle.

What I found was in some locations close to Baltimore city in Maryland near where I live, literally all beys were gone. Wasn't a run on toys in general due to stimulus checks because everything was still there. Just beys were gone. Slots and racks were there so its not like they weren't carried at that location.

In surrounding areas in the suburbs, you had a lot... but mostly your common undesirable ones. Clearly they carried more but were picked through because people probably traveled like myself looking for better options.

In the rural areas an hour north of Baltimore in southern Pennsylvania you started to see your turbo spryzen, balkesh, air knights and Phoenixs. Truthfully im surprised hasbro hasn't included checklists so kids knew what else to look for to drive sales even more. My daughter has tons of checklists for other collectible toys.

Point is, a TON of people play beyblades. But yet what do your competitive tournaments have? 24 to 32 participants? That's a fraction and a very small one at that. So hasbro really doesn't need to meet a standard to compete. They have their market and maybe 5 to 10% go to these lengths to be on forums like this to learn more and get better quality.

How much less can Hasbro spend? The cost cutting on beys will only insure their beys will continue to decline.

Well from a business perspective, Hasbro beys are half or less the price of Takara Tomy beys. Hasbro may be cutting costs by making beys cheaper to even out profits to cost.

Takara Tomy are essentially the same price in Japan. The shipping is why TT beys are twice the price of Hasbro Beyblades.

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Do you guys love Hasbro beys or takara tomy beys? I personally love Takara tomy beyblades. I feel that the Hasbro ones were good up-to Switchstrike, after which, they steadily declined in quality (what with no metal, rubber or anything that makes a beyblade different from other tops). 

I'm sure a lot of you have questions like
Why are Hasbro beyblades so bad when it comes to being anime-accurate? 
Why are Takara tomy beyblades never released outside Asia and why are all of their events and videos region locked? Don't they realize there are beyblades fans outside Japan? Don't they care? 
But before we go on to diss on Hasbro or TT, I would like to share a few points why I think Hasbro or TT is doing what they are doing. 

1. Why is TT not selling outside Asia? 

TT is not a beyblade company,  it's a toy company. Beyblade is just one of their products. They make many other toys which means they cannot spend all their money on making and selling beyblades. If they have to sell outside Japan, yes, they'll have more customers. But imagine all the extra money they'll have to spend in shipping their products worldwide. Not to mention the money they'll have to pay to advertise their products in different languages. If TT ships world wide, then Hasbro most likely wouldn't be making beys anymore (since they are only making beys since TT is letting them). So all the dubbed versions of the anime will now be TT's job. Most likely that cost would be so high that they wouldn't make much profit overall. So that's the reason that TT beys cannot be found outside Asia. 

2. Why are beyblade events and games region locked? 

If they aren't, then there will be people worldwide who win prizes in these events. That means TT will have to spend money shipping these products to them. Not to mention TT will have to start thinking of regular international tournaments, which will eat away at a lot of their money and time. 

3. Don't they want people outside Japan buying beyblades? 

They are a toy company! Of course they do! I'm sure the international fan base outside Japan is much bigger than the Japanese beyblading community. But this is where eBay and Amazon (and other online stores, some of them selling only anime products) come in. Sellers from these websites may place bulk orders to TT for every beyblade. How do you think so many eBay seller have so many beyblades to sell? So TT depends heavily on international sellers to sell their products since Now they won't have to pay for shipping. It's a win-win-win for TT, the eBay seller and the beyblade fan outside Japan. 

4. Why are Hasbro beys released so long after TT? 

It's the same reason as above. TT really wants their beyblade to be sold internationally. If Hasbro started selling beyblades at the same time as TT, there won't be many people trying to get TT beys from Japan. And TT can control how long after Hasbro should start to sell beyblades, since TT is the one who sells the beyblade rights to Hasbro. 

5. Why does TT never release different kinds of stadium?

I personally think this was part of the deal between TT and Hasbro. If you want anime beys, buy TT. If you want anime stadiums,  buy Hasbro. 
Another reason could be since TT sells only in Asia (mainly Japan). People just don't buy that many stadiums since it's a long term investment. So designing different kinds of stadiums for a small audience is a waste of money for TT.

Now for the Hasbro question you've all been waiting for-

6. Why are Hasbro beyblades so bad when compared to TT(personal opinion,  since I love the rubber and the metal and the gimmicks used in TT) 

Hasbro is also a toy company. And beyblade is a product not originally made by Hasbro. It's a TT idea. Now Hasbro knows that by the time it starts selling beyblades,  with today's easy access to Japanese toys, many people is America and Europe would have already bought beys from TT. And unlike TT, Hasbro is selling beyblades not only in its own country, but three continents! Think of how many countries that is! Imagine all the dubbing and the shipping cost involved! Yes, there are more people to buy beyblades from Hasbro now. And that's exactly what Hasbro depends on. Since beyblade is not one of Hasbro's own products and since it's already been out in Japan for a while, Hasbro is already at a disadvantage. And so it decides to focus more on quantity than quality. It knows that however cheaply it makes beyblades, there will be many people who buy from them because that's what is available in nearby stores. You can see how even at the end of metal fight Hasbro tried to make beys cheaply by cutting out some metal and gimmicks in 4D beys. This wasn't true during plastic gen when it was actually difficult to get TT beys outside Japan. The world wasn't as connected as it is today. 

7. Why were Hasbro beys good upto Switchstrike? 

Switchstrike (which is mostly about Burst God) is mostly plastic. So the only other material other than plastic they have to use is rubber. So overall it's cheaper to make. Plus, I think back at that time, Hasbro was still trying to focus both on quality and quantity. 

So the next time you decide to blame Hasbro, remember, it may be our buying more of TT beys that makes Hasbro make such bad beys.(for anyone who shares my opinion on Hasbro beys) 

I personally love TT beys and will continue to buy them. What about you guys?

I like Hasbro idk why that was just my first brand I used and i just became attached to it

How much less can Hasbro spend? The cost cutting on beys will only insure their beys will continue to decline.

Well from a business perspective, Hasbro beys are half or less the price of Takara Tomy beys. Hasbro may be cutting costs by making beys cheaper to even out profits to cost.

Hmmm never really thought about it like that. That's a pretty good business strategy actually

I think one element everyone is missing is that maybe 10% or less of the entire beyblade community worldwide is into official competitive stuff and sites such as this.  My daughter and I just got into this a few weeks ago.  Im a competitive person and like magic cards in my generation,  I thought beys could connect my daughter and I and allow us to go to tournaments and what not.  And honestly there is no point competing without rank lol. So it brought me here to learn about what the meta is..... which introduced me to TT. Now 3 weeks later we have over a dozen TT beys with most relevant drivers and layers.  And we also have almost everything hasbro currently offers that's retail right now at your local target or Wally world.   I'll admit,  the bey search was fun for a few days running around different locations while on my way to customers for work. Yes during a pandemic im rolling into target with a skull mask on checking your toy aisle.

What I found was in some locations close to Baltimore city in Maryland near where I live,  literally all beys were gone.  Wasn't a run on toys in general due to stimulus checks because everything was still there. Just beys were gone. Slots and racks were there so its not like they weren't carried at that location.

In surrounding areas in the suburbs, you had a lot... but mostly your common undesirable ones.  Clearly they carried more but were picked through because people probably traveled like myself looking for better options.

In the rural areas an hour north of Baltimore in southern Pennsylvania you started to see your turbo spryzen, balkesh, air knights and Phoenixs. Truthfully im surprised hasbro hasn't included checklists so kids knew what else to look for to drive sales even more. My daughter has tons of checklists for other collectible toys.

Point is, a TON of people play beyblades. But yet what do your competitive tournaments have? 24 to 32 participants? That's a fraction and a very small one at that.  So hasbro really doesn't need to meet a standard to compete.  They have their market and maybe 5 to 10% go to these lengths to be on forums like this to learn more and get better quality.

They used to have check lists for products, but for some unknown reason, they were really rare past the original burst like and they stoped making them past evolution. Also if you find Balkesh (at least the switchstrike version) in stores, buy that fast. Same with Caynox. Fantastic beys.

Zankye posted some cool footage of the NA beyblade team talking about their respect for TT and their designs.  There are two main guys at Hasbro that engineer the product line.  They consult with TT on their designs.

For reasons I personally don't understand, Hasbro team decided that pushing gimmicks on a gameplay level (like slingshock) is more hype than just keeping the core gameplay intact and evolving the beys like TT.  So much of what Hasbro does is only viable in generation on stadiums designed specifically for it against other beys of it's gimmick.  TT has kept the basic gameplay and core stadium for 5 years now, slowly evolving things and introducing interesting, bey-level gimmicks carefully balancing an overall meta and keeping older parts relevant with upgrades such as dash or add-ons. 

It's easy to lament the obvious gap in quality between the Hasbro and TT stuff, but I think it's important to consider that TT is being paid licensing by Hasbro and has opportunities to leverage the relationship to learn as well.   All of this goes to continue to help fund TT in producing their direct line, so we likely benefit from Hasbro beys indirectly.

Personally, I'd be happy if Hasbro just sold TT beys under license in NA with some bonus NA only limited editions/re-colors, etc.  If they did that, they could get the core crowd around the world seeking out their parts for competitive use or for collection, but it's late in the Burst cycle at this point.  Maybe in whatever comes next they'll follow a tighter alignment.

Do you guys love Hasbro beys or takara tomy beys? I personally love Takara tomy beyblades. I feel that the Hasbro ones were good up-to Switchstrike, after which, they steadily declined in quality (what with no metal, rubber or anything that makes a beyblade different from other tops). 

I'm sure a lot of you have questions like
Why are Hasbro beyblades so bad when it comes to being anime-accurate? 
Why are Takara tomy beyblades never released outside Asia and why are all of their events and videos region locked? Don't they realize there are beyblades fans outside Japan? Don't they care? 
But before we go on to diss on Hasbro or TT, I would like to share a few points why I think Hasbro or TT is doing what they are doing. 

1. Why is TT not selling outside Asia? 

TT is not a beyblade company,  it's a toy company. Beyblade is just one of their products. They make many other toys which means they cannot spend all their money on making and selling beyblades. If they have to sell outside Japan, yes, they'll have more customers. But imagine all the extra money they'll have to spend in shipping their products worldwide. Not to mention the money they'll have to pay to advertise their products in different languages. If TT ships world wide, then Hasbro most likely wouldn't be making beys anymore (since they are only making beys since TT is letting them). So all the dubbed versions of the anime will now be TT's job. Most likely that cost would be so high that they wouldn't make much profit overall. So that's the reason that TT beys cannot be found outside Asia. 

2. Why are beyblade events and games region locked? 

If they aren't, then there will be people worldwide who win prizes in these events. That means TT will have to spend money shipping these products to them. Not to mention TT will have to start thinking of regular international tournaments, which will eat away at a lot of their money and time. 

3. Don't they want people outside Japan buying beyblades? 

They are a toy company! Of course they do! I'm sure the international fan base outside Japan is much bigger than the Japanese beyblading community. But this is where eBay and Amazon (and other online stores, some of them selling only anime products) come in. Sellers from these websites may place bulk orders to TT for every beyblade. How do you think so many eBay seller have so many beyblades to sell? So TT depends heavily on international sellers to sell their products since Now they won't have to pay for shipping. It's a win-win-win for TT, the eBay seller and the beyblade fan outside Japan. 

4. Why are Hasbro beys released so long after TT? 

It's the same reason as above. TT really wants their beyblade to be sold internationally. If Hasbro started selling beyblades at the same time as TT, there won't be many people trying to get TT beys from Japan. And TT can control how long after Hasbro should start to sell beyblades, since TT is the one who sells the beyblade rights to Hasbro. 

5. Why does TT never release different kinds of stadium?

I personally think this was part of the deal between TT and Hasbro. If you want anime beys, buy TT. If you want anime stadiums,  buy Hasbro. 
Another reason could be since TT sells only in Asia (mainly Japan). People just don't buy that many stadiums since it's a long term investment. So designing different kinds of stadiums for a small audience is a waste of money for TT.

Now for the Hasbro question you've all been waiting for-

6. Why are Hasbro beyblades so bad when compared to TT(personal opinion,  since I love the rubber and the metal and the gimmicks used in TT) 

Hasbro is also a toy company. And beyblade is a product not originally made by Hasbro. It's a TT idea. Now Hasbro knows that by the time it starts selling beyblades,  with today's easy access to Japanese toys, many people is America and Europe would have already bought beys from TT. And unlike TT, Hasbro is selling beyblades not only in its own country, but three continents! Think of how many countries that is! Imagine all the dubbing and the shipping cost involved! Yes, there are more people to buy beyblades from Hasbro now. And that's exactly what Hasbro depends on. Since beyblade is not one of Hasbro's own products and since it's already been out in Japan for a while, Hasbro is already at a disadvantage. And so it decides to focus more on quantity than quality. It knows that however cheaply it makes beyblades, there will be many people who buy from them because that's what is available in nearby stores. You can see how even at the end of metal fight Hasbro tried to make beys cheaply by cutting out some metal and gimmicks in 4D beys. This wasn't true during plastic gen when it was actually difficult to get TT beys outside Japan. The world wasn't as connected as it is today. 

7. Why were Hasbro beys good upto Switchstrike? 

Switchstrike (which is mostly about Burst God) is mostly plastic. So the only other material other than plastic they have to use is rubber. So overall it's cheaper to make. Plus, I think back at that time, Hasbro was still trying to focus both on quality and quantity. 

So the next time you decide to blame Hasbro, remember, it may be our buying more of TT beys that makes Hasbro make such bad beys.(for anyone who shares my opinion on Hasbro beys) 

I personally love TT beys and will continue to buy them. What about you guys?

I like Hasbro idk why that was just my first brand I used and i just became attached to it

Yes.. I liked Hasbro too. .back in the plastic gen when their beys were identical to tt

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Zankye posted some cool footage of the NA beyblade team talking about their respect for TT and their designs.  There are two main guys at Hasbro that engineer the product line.  They consult with TT on their designs.

For reasons I personally don't understand, Hasbro team decided that pushing gimmicks on a gameplay level (like slingshock) is more hype than just keeping the core gameplay intact and evolving the beys like TT.  So much of what Hasbro does is only viable in generation on stadiums designed specifically for it against other beys of it's gimmick.  TT has kept the basic gameplay and core stadium for 5 years now, slowly evolving things and introducing interesting, bey-level gimmicks carefully balancing an overall meta and keeping older parts relevant with upgrades such as dash or add-ons. 

It's easy to lament the obvious gap in quality between the Hasbro and TT stuff, but I think it's important to consider that TT is being paid licensing by Hasbro and has opportunities to leverage the relationship to learn as well.   All of this goes to continue to help fund TT in producing their direct line, so we likely benefit from Hasbro beys indirectly.

Personally, I'd be happy if Hasbro just sold TT beys under license in NA with some bonus NA only limited editions/re-colors, etc.  If they did that, they could get the core crowd around the world seeking out their parts for competitive use or for collection, but it's late in the Burst cycle at this point.  Maybe in whatever comes next they'll follow a tighter alignment.

I think it has something to do with the continent you live in.. I mean sure Hasbro could do that.. But they've never done that before...rheve almost always redesigned tt beys atleast a little bit. In plastic gen, both tt and Hasbro beys were identical.. Still there would be a minute mold difference that will make it difficult to mix Hasbro and tt parts. 
But I Asian countries like India and the middle east, tt sells their beys using local companies..like in India.. A company called funskool sells tt beys.. So the boxes will have funskool abs tt logo and the names will be Hasbro names(because thr English dub airs in India)

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I think one element everyone is missing is that maybe 10% or less of the entire beyblade community worldwide is into official competitive stuff and sites such as this.  My daughter and I just got into this a few weeks ago.  Im a competitive person and like magic cards in my generation,  I thought beys could connect my daughter and I and allow us to go to tournaments and what not.  And honestly there is no point competing without rank lol. So it brought me here to learn about what the meta is..... which introduced me to TT. Now 3 weeks later we have over a dozen TT beys with most relevant drivers and layers.  And we also have almost everything hasbro currently offers that's retail right now at your local target or Wally world.   I'll admit,  the bey search was fun for a few days running around different locations while on my way to customers for work. Yes during a pandemic im rolling into target with a skull mask on checking your toy aisle.

What I found was in some locations close to Baltimore city in Maryland near where I live,  literally all beys were gone.  Wasn't a run on toys in general due to stimulus checks because everything was still there. Just beys were gone. Slots and racks were there so its not like they weren't carried at that location.

In surrounding areas in the suburbs, you had a lot... but mostly your common undesirable ones.  Clearly they carried more but were picked through because people probably traveled like myself looking for better options.

In the rural areas an hour north of Baltimore in southern Pennsylvania you started to see your turbo spryzen, balkesh, air knights and Phoenixs. Truthfully im surprised hasbro hasn't included checklists so kids knew what else to look for to drive sales even more. My daughter has tons of checklists for other collectible toys.

Point is, a TON of people play beyblades. But yet what do your competitive tournaments have? 24 to 32 participants? That's a fraction and a very small one at that.  So hasbro really doesn't need to meet a standard to compete.  They have their market and maybe 5 to 10% go to these lengths to be on forums like this to learn more and get better quality.

They used to have check lists for products, but for some unknown reason, they were really rare past the original burst like and they stoped making them past evolution. Also if you find Balkesh (at least the switchstrike version) in stores, buy that fast. Same with Caynox. Fantastic beys.

I'm looking to buy those beys from tt.. I already have arc bahamut layer (Hasbro name Balkesh) from tt ..im thinking of buying the god customize set at some point

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Well from a business perspective, Hasbro beys are half or less the price of Takara Tomy beys. Hasbro may be cutting costs by making beys cheaper to even out profits to cost.

Takara Tomy are essentially the same price in Japan. The shipping is why TT beys are twice the price of Hasbro Beyblades.

That's true for the US where Hasbro is based. But Hasbro beys are also going in German stores and here they cost almost as much as tt with shipping..so in Germany we have to spend the same amount of money lol

People are still buying Hasbro beyblade products, and if they are making money then it makes sense. If people are draw in or like their stadium gimmicks then Hasbro can make changes that some might not notice like removing some beys gimmicks.

I think one element everyone is missing is that maybe 10% or less of the entire beyblade community worldwide is into official competitive stuff and sites such as this.  My daughter and I just got into this a few weeks ago.  Im a competitive person and like magic cards in my generation,  I thought beys could connect my daughter and I and allow us to go to tournaments and what not.  And honestly there is no point competing without rank lol. So it brought me here to learn about what the meta is..... which introduced me to TT. Now 3 weeks later we have over a dozen TT beys with most relevant drivers and layers.  And we also have almost everything hasbro currently offers that's retail right now at your local target or Wally world.   I'll admit,  the bey search was fun for a few days running around different locations while on my way to customers for work. Yes during a pandemic im rolling into target with a skull mask on checking your toy aisle.

What I found was in some locations close to Baltimore city in Maryland near where I live,  literally all beys were gone.  Wasn't a run on toys in general due to stimulus checks because everything was still there. Just beys were gone. Slots and racks were there so its not like they weren't carried at that location.

In surrounding areas in the suburbs, you had a lot... but mostly your common undesirable ones.  Clearly they carried more but were picked through because people probably traveled like myself looking for better options.

In the rural areas an hour north of Baltimore in southern Pennsylvania you started to see your turbo spryzen, balkesh, air knights and Phoenixs. Truthfully im surprised hasbro hasn't included checklists so kids knew what else to look for to drive sales even more. My daughter has tons of checklists for other collectible toys.

Point is, a TON of people play beyblades. But yet what do your competitive tournaments have? 24 to 32 participants? That's a fraction and a very small one at that.  So hasbro really doesn't need to meet a standard to compete.  They have their market and maybe 5 to 10% go to these lengths to be on forums like this to learn more and get better quality.

They used to have check lists for products, but for some unknown reason, they were really rare past the original burst like and they stoped making them past evolution. Also if you find Balkesh (at least the switchstrike version) in stores, buy that fast. Same with Caynox. Fantastic beys.

It was d5 balkesh. I have yet to find 3 series stuff but I know for a fact where some is. Both gamestop and books a million have older beys in store.

They used to have check lists for products, but for some unknown reason, they were really rare past the original burst like and they stoped making them past evolution. Also if you find Balkesh (at least the switchstrike version) in stores, buy that fast. Same with Caynox. Fantastic beys.

It was d5 balkesh. I have yet to find 3 series stuff but I know for a fact where some is. Both gamestop and books a million have older beys in store.

Oh so just standard stuff then.

It was d5 balkesh. I have yet to find 3 series stuff but I know for a fact where some is. Both gamestop and books a million have older beys in store.

Oh so just standard stuff then.

Yea. That's what i meant about current retail stuff. But I called gamestop and inquired. He listed 2 names but didn't seem to concerned with helping me. He had horusood and wyvron which I believe are 2 and 3 series stuff. So im hopeful once I can go into the store.

I know for a fact BAM has 3 series stuff because a few weeks before the shut down occurred, we were there and I was looking at it. Unfortunately beyblades peaked my interest when I saw the concept of weights and drivers. It wasn't until my daughter made the comment that boys at daycare told her girls cannot play that we jumped into. I dropped over 1000 bucks on madden this past year so its nice to have a new hobby with something tangible to show for the money spent. I just hope she doesn't lose interest before the pandemic stuff is over with. Kind of hard justifying going to tournaments for myself lol.

Oh so just standard stuff then.

Yea. That's what i meant about current retail stuff.  But I called gamestop and inquired.  He listed 2 names but didn't seem to concerned with helping me. He had horusood and wyvron which I believe are 2 and 3 series stuff. So im hopeful once I can go into the store.

I know for a fact BAM has 3 series stuff because a few weeks before the shut down occurred,  we were there and I was looking at it. Unfortunately beyblades peaked my interest when I saw the concept of weights and drivers.  It wasn't until my daughter made the comment that boys at daycare told her girls cannot play that we jumped into. I dropped over 1000 bucks on madden this past year so its nice to have a new hobby with something tangible to show for the money spent.  I just hope she doesn't lose interest before the pandemic stuff is over with.  Kind of hard justifying going to tournaments for myself lol.

Ah that's cool. I would recommend wyvron and horusood as they are really rare.