Achilles leak is out, it looks like it mostly inspired by Z achilles and Union Achilles rather than Cho z and Infinite. It has 4 hole possibly for Sword and Shield Attachment

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Also with Very aggressive blade design

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The name probably something Z .. then achilles. Like Gt become Gatling to Dragon

https://www.dictionary.com/e/word-finder...rt-with-z/

Take your pick.

I’d go with Zenith becuz it’s sounds cool, but CzV beat me to it. Zeal then.
“ fervor for a person, cause, or object; eager desire or endeavor; enthusiastic diligence; ardor.”
Sounds fitting.

If im being honest im not a fan of this achilles initial/concept design, For me personally the core looks too cramp with details and colors maybe the finalize design will change my mind like how Xcalibur did.

Also an intresting detail that i find is in this concept there's seems to be a sticker that makes the word Z but the Z letter is being cut off making half of it looks like C maybe this Achilles same like gatling will have a Cz abbraviation making a homage to the ChoZ era.

So I was watching Chain vs All Xcalibur and realised Sw' is not that bad when you remember that I was a thing. Worst. Driver. ever.

If im being honest im not a fan of this achilles initial/concept design, For me personally the core looks too cramp with details and colors maybe the finalize design will change my mind like how Xcalibur did.

Also an intresting detail that i find is in this concept there's seems to be a sticker that makes the word Z but the Z letter is being cut off making half of it looks like C maybe this Achilles same like gatling will have a Cz abbraviation making a homage to the ChoZ era.

I kinda dig the aggressive design tho. Since Spriggan is balance toward defense layer, Raphael balance toward stamina, and to close it Achilles balance toward attack which is nice. But what i worried is the hole near outer blade, I'm afraid it will break easily

I still want a new Valkyrie, there's no reason we needed to get a BU Belial and Spriggan, and not Valkyrie.

I still want a new Valkyrie, there's no reason we needed to get a BU Belial and Spriggan, and not Valkyrie.

We've stated this reason so many times. Okay, I'll admit, there was no need for a New Belial but Ultimate Valkyrie is the Final Valkyrie, it is literally meant to be the Final Valkyrie. Just because you're a Valkyrie fan doesn't automatically means we should get a New Valkyrie. We got 2 New Valkyrie's in Beyblade Burst DB, give Spriggan a chance, and Divine Belial, I honestly don't know why we got it but the point stands that Ultimate Valkyrie is meant to be the Final Valkyrie. It is built up from all the past Valkyrie's and Ultimate literally means best of its kind and last. Its slightly getting annoying how you keep asking for one when nothing is going to change the fact that we are not getting a New Valkyrie, there is no point in this anymore because when Ultimate came out it was pretty much confirmed to be the last Valkyrie and there's nothing we can do to change that. We've already explained so many times why we don't need a New Valkyrie but you just keep asking about it. If you still want one that's fine but just please stop complaining about it here. Ultimate Valkyrie is the Final Valkyrie and there's nothing we can do to change that. I feel like we also need somewhat of an Ultimate Spriggan since sure, Astral was kinda that except it only mainly focused on Requiem instead of trying to incoperate past gimmicks which kinda sucked so I'm excited to see a New Ultimate Spriggan but overall I do think you should stop asking since we've explained so many times.

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I still want a new Valkyrie, there's no reason we needed to get a BU Belial and Spriggan, and not Valkyrie.

We've stated this reason so many times. Okay, I'll admit, there was no need for a New Belial but Ultimate Valkyrie is the Final Valkyrie, it is literally meant to be the Final Valkyrie. Just because you're a Valkyrie fan doesn't automatically means we should get a New Valkyrie. We got 2 New Valkyrie's in Beyblade Burst DB, give Spriggan a chance, and Divine Belial, I honestly don't know why we got it but the point stands that Ultimate Valkyrie is meant to be the Final Valkyrie. It is built up from all the past Valkyrie's and Ultimate literally means best of its kind and last. Its slightly getting annoying how you keep asking for one when nothing is going to change the fact that we are not getting a New Valkyrie, there is no point in this anymore because when Ultimate came out it was pretty much confirmed to be the last Valkyrie and there's nothing we can do to change that. We've already explained so many times why we don't need a New Valkyrie but you just keep asking about it. If you still want one that's fine but just please stop complaining about it here. Ultimate Valkyrie is the Final Valkyrie and there's nothing we can do to change that. I feel like we also need somewhat of an Ultimate Spriggan since sure, Astral was kinda that except it only mainly focused on Requiem instead of trying to incoperate past gimmicks which kinda sucked so I'm excited to see a New Ultimate Spriggan but overall I do think you should stop asking since we've explained so many times.

There's just no sense of common sense. You would think that Ultimate Valkyrie meant the last Valkyrie. I think we needed a BU Belial because it started off BU and was very similar to DB. This would lead all the anime guys to assume that Bel created the BU system.

I have no idea why the thread had to get repeated for a discussion that was answered a couple of pages before, but we do NOT need ANOTHER VALKYRIE.

BU Divine Belial was done so that for future releases they have marketing to advertise a gear upgrade to complete Belial so it gives people incentive future products.

BU Spriggan (assuming 100%) is done to mirror the final Spriggan to match the final Valkyrie, there is at least some argument to be made for Spriggan getting an Evo to where it is somewhat justified. Maybe give Quattro' or something to make it stand out and be unique for the actual evolution since they could do something there and maybe a better dual spin chip for burst resistance.

There is no reason to evolve Valkyrie again because there is nothing else they can do that is unique enough to justify a release, Savior already takes shape partially from Victory/Winning/Brave/Strike God/Slash for the blade when Ultimate is representing to the original Valkyrie. Not only is it a massive waste of a slot but why would we waste another slot for something that cannot be justified for what they can do.

People want Deathscyther, Kukulcan anything that isn't the same motifs, we don't need to have repeated evolutions where it doesn't make sense to just sully a system.

I still want a new Valkyrie, there's no reason we needed to get a BU Belial and Spriggan, and not Valkyrie.

While you're entitled to your own opinion, here's why I disagree.

BU Spriggan is supposed to match Ultimate Valkyrie, and essentially be it's own "Ultimate" thing. It's not like Spriggan is getting more than Valkyrie, they're both getting two each. You're acting as if Spriggan is getting their new bey from this completely new system that Valkyrie is left out of, even though that's not it at all, they're both technically DB beys. The name "BU" means nothing past marketing, it's still just a DB bey.

Besides, other lines have had other beys outweigh the number of beys per system than Valkyrie. There were more Dragon beys than Valkyrie in GT, and more Helios/Hyperion than Valkyrie in Sparking. This is coming from me, who didn't even want a third Belial, I personally find it a boring waste, but at the same time it was somewhat necessary for the new gears, especially when Dangerous was locked behind a set, plus it's still a part of it's own system. Make no mistake, I'd rather not have another Belial, but a third Valkyrie would also oversaturate the system with Valkyrie's and make it super boring. DB/BU is already a shorter toyline within one year, we don't need even more mid evolutions after Spriggan.

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No I don't plan on doing more yet.

I should probably go back to making fan custom Zero G beyblade concepts again

I don't understand the obsession of having a 3rd valkyrie in the same system Bu is not a new system its not even a sub system, its db with TT slapping the fancy Burst Ultimate name on it. Spriggan getting an evo is as Many are saying over and over again is yo finish of the series with the first 2 burst bey with the same amount of numbers thats it. Belial get a 3rd evo is really cause its the face of this system and if I fo deeper it might just be they don’t want the last main character having the least evo out of all. If the rumours are true (which thet 99% most likely are seeing what we got so far), both hyperion and Helios will get their evo which will tie them with Belial having 3 evo 3 each. Dragon got 4 and Achilles got 5 perfect balance with all of them to end the series. Valkyrie is done and dont need another one the literally put all 8 previous valkyrie into one thats the final line for it.

I still want a new Valkyrie, there's no reason we needed to get a BU Belial and Spriggan, and not Valkyrie.

Holy hell this again really? Ultimate valkyrie means the last or the pinnacle point both in meaning and philosophy, is it really hard to understand that? even after many times we explained it?

"Is there a reason to make belial or another spriggan?" 

No, but they never stated that the line was ending unlike valkyrie so if they evolve it, it won't be a problem it's as simple as that.

Funny thing is if you slap ultimate valkyrie being a bu no one would see the diference nor say it needs another evo cause some Seems to think bu is complety different system lol

Funny thing is if you slap ultimate valkyrie being a bu no one would see the diference nor say it needs another evo cause some Seems to think bu is complety different system lol

In fact, I'm surprised that TT didn't just say that Ultimate Valkyrie was the start of BU, since, y'know, "Ultimate" is in the name of Valkyrie and "Burst Ultimate", similarly to how Dynamite Belial is in the Dynamite system, or Super Hyperion/King Helios is in Superking. Ace Dragon really was the only exception of the recent main character beys. It helps that Valkyrie was the last new DB bey, almost like it served as a bridge between DB and BU.

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No I don't plan on doing more yet.

I should probably go back to making fan custom Zero G beyblade concepts again

I’m gonna agree with everyone else on this one. Valkyrie and Smash both ended last year, and I’m happy with how they turned out.
V' May suck, but seeing it awaken is kinda what got me started in the series initially and a cool concept, that I for some reason though other beys would be able to do. Plus you can just place Ev' if you really want to or swap out Legacy for Wheel for not scrape.

Funny thing is if you slap ultimate valkyrie being a bu no one would see the diference nor say it needs another evo cause some Seems to think bu is complety different system lol

In fact, I'm surprised that TT didn't just say that Ultimate Valkyrie was the start of BU, since, y'know, "Ultimate" is in the name of Valkyrie and "Burst Ultimate", similarly to how Dynamite Belial is in the Dynamite system, or Super Hyperion/King Helios is in Superking. Ace Dragon really was the only exception of the recent main character beys. It helps that Valkyrie was the last new DB bey, almost like it served as a bridge between DB and BU.

I guess strictly for the sake of consistency (and perhaps marketing), they don't want to retroactively include Ultimate Valkyrie. Would make sense though, name aside. Compared to Saviour, it has three big fat rubber blades, so it would make sense as a "BU" upgrade.

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Funny thing is if you slap ultimate valkyrie being a bu no one would see the diference nor say it needs another evo cause some Seems to think bu is complety different system lol

In fact, I'm surprised that TT didn't just say that Ultimate Valkyrie was the start of BU, since, y'know, "Ultimate" is in the name of Valkyrie and "Burst Ultimate", similarly to how Dynamite Belial is in the Dynamite system, or Super Hyperion/King Helios is in Superking. Ace Dragon really was the only exception of the recent main character beys. It helps that Valkyrie was the last new DB bey, almost like it served as a bridge between DB and BU.

Thinking about Now why didnt the make part of bu as you mention it got ultimate in its name might as well start the bu thing with it.

Dude, just ignore him. Dont feed the troll

Hmm... Just asking, will High Revolve even be decent at best? Like obviously it can't beat Bearing' and Drift, but maybe it will be useful somehow?
Just' meanwhile...beyond redemption.
As for Achilles, maybe it'll break the pattern of having teh following traits:
-Side Face
-Xtend+ variant
Also, for goodness sake pls give Achilles Metal back.

Hmm... Just asking, will High Revolve even be decent at best? Like obviously it can't beat Bearing' and Drift, but maybe it will be useful somehow?
Just' meanwhile...beyond redemption.
As for Achilles, maybe it'll break the pattern of having teh following traits:
-Side Face
-Xtend+ variant
Also, for goodness sake pls give Achilles Metal back.

When you say revolve can beat drift and bearing do you mean in same spin or opposite spin?

Hmm... Just asking, will High Revolve even be decent at best? Like obviously it can't beat Bearing' and Drift, but maybe it will be useful somehow?
Just' meanwhile...beyond redemption.
As for Achilles, maybe it'll break the pattern of having teh following traits:
-Side Face
-Xtend+ variant
Also, for goodness sake pls give Achilles Metal back.

When you say revolve can beat drift and bearing do you mean in same spin or opposite spin?

Becuz Dr and Br are everywhere and I thought:
If its long them/Hxt+', it not good.

Ok, who’s looking at the rumour mill? Like besides air knight rumours, not much left for BU. Also I wonder if it’s gonna be a letdown for the most part considering Divine and Chain….

I've removed the unnecessary arguments after everyone had a chance to stop the first time.

Let's just agree to disagree. Everyone has their reasons to want a DB system Valkyrie, as much as everyone having their reasons to not want another DB system Valkyrie, but let's keep the discussions civil, please. Thank you.

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My Cho-Z Reaper Deathscyther .12.Cr concept render, click below to see!

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No I don't plan on doing more yet.

I should probably go back to making fan custom Zero G beyblade concepts again

I've removed the unnecessary arguments after everyone had a chance to stop the first time.

Let's just agree to disagree. Everyone has their reasons to want a DB system Valkyrie, as much as everyone having their reasons to not want another DB system Valkyrie, but let's keep the discussions civil, please. Thank you.

Thank you my friend. I still have no idea why I was attacked like that by so many people, just for wanting a new Valkyrie, but it's all good. I still like Ultimate, it's very good. Anyway, I'm very hyped for the new Achilles.

I've removed the unnecessary arguments after everyone had a chance to stop the first time.

Let's just agree to disagree. Everyone has their reasons to want a DB system Valkyrie, as much as everyone having their reasons to not want another DB system Valkyrie, but let's keep the discussions civil, please. Thank you.

Thank you my friend. I still have no idea why I was attacked like that by so many people, just for wanting a new Valkyrie, but it's all good. I still like Ultimate, it's very good. Anyway, I'm very hyped for the new Achilles.

I hope it's in a 4 bey customize set rather than a three bey triple booster. The more beys the better. I still can't wrap my head around how BU is one year long.