So, I don't typically enjoy reading these types of posts because, frankly, all they are are rants, and rants generate similar replies. That being said, I truthfully didn't read the majority of this thread, aside from this last page so please ignore it if I happen to repeat something, but I don't want to filter the fleeting lines of relevance amidst a whining carp storm.
While I was wholly unimpressed by the first post, there are a few things worth addressing here, and well, if possible I'd like to avoid a community fragmentation over such a relatively petty issue.
(Oct. 14, 2009 4:05 AM)Deikailo Wrote:
Conclusions:- If the old school bladers aren't willing to play, find new bladers that will.
- I find that's a rather poor statement. Yes, find new people who are willing to, but to out right neglect people willing to play (provided a bit of responsibility and planning are present) is just down right ignorant. Like it or not the area and plans seem to have a bad reputation, and if you feel like blaming anyone for this, blame yourselves. I recently joined when the whole NYC fiasco happened and while I didn't care much for things, what I did miss completely after the fact was follow through.
The conclusion seems to be drawn from the bad taste left for a few members after a string of (potentially coincidental) unfortunate events/mishaps/accidents. Whatever the case, showing up with a post like this after a few months of absence/holding out isn't going to get you any points. This is about maturity and accepting responsibility, beyblade, WBO, your own proposed website, or anything if you accept a position with responsibility you own up to it, excuses be damned.
(Oct. 14, 2009 4:05 AM)Deikailo Wrote:
Metal Fight Beyblades aren't as competitive as plastics. We all saw it, we all agreed. I'm keeping New York's standard to plastic and HMS for those that share interest.
(Oct. 14, 2009 4:05 AM)Deikailo Wrote:
We need to have one day a week/month to set up at the same location with a focus specifically on gaining interest.
- Who is we? Whatever. Here's something I find interesting, you want to promote Beyblade, revive it so to speak, but keep the standard to Plastic and HMS? I'm going to ignore the bit about them being more competitive for the moment to point out, and hopefully make you realize how utterly ABSURD the notion of pushing older generation items when the new stuff is currently out, and soon to be released world wide is.
Here's the break down:
"Hey, check out this battle between plastics guys!"
"Oh cool! Where do we get them?"
"Oh, well, most stores don't sell plastics/HMS anymore, but you can order them on e-bay and MOJ. They also have MFB which are available though similar routes, but tonnes of shops online have them as well too, oh, they're going to be released world wide in a year, backed by promotions, events, and a Television series which you kids are totally going to love!"
"Oh, so I should buy product I most likely won't be able to use except around you guys and ppick up MFB which are more likely to be used too!"
"Yep! ^___________^"
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Yeah. No."
OK, so, yeah sarcastic as hell, but whatever. I don't understand how you want to shift your focus to promoting beyblade but believe the older generation stuff is more competitive and intend to show case it even more. "Yeah guys, the new stuff sucks, don't buy it."
Now, how did you come up to the conclusion that HMS and Plastics are more competitive? 8 people getting together and making an arbitrary judgment proclaiming plastics/HMS are more competitive than MFB doesn't make it true. Plastics and HMS have run their course, it's a field dominated by archtypes, and specific customizations. MFB is consistently changing currently, has new parts in production, and is still being updated, with new parts that are affecting current top tier combination's, and some new untouched potential, I fail to see exactly how MFB isn't competitive
(Oct. 14, 2009 4:05 AM)Deikailo Wrote:
Goals:- Build a website specifically for NY/NJ. I'll use business cards and flyers to promote it.
- Good for you, I have no issue with another website, but the WBO is not the place to organize something like that, especially considering the rather... well, anti-us comments you've made.
(Oct. 14, 2009 4:05 AM)Deikailo Wrote:
Have stores carry Beyblades. I already have one guy in Coney Island who will carry MFB. He has the ability to order directly from Takara-Tomy.
- This is not as easy as you say it is. Stores in this economy won't often take risks like that, and even fewer have access to such connections. You can suggest it, but do you honestly see any store that can't order from Takara-Tomy directly going out of their way to buy MFB from a second hand source? I've actually got a few stores interested, but the obvious choice for them seems to be to wait until Fall 2010 for the official release out here. That being said, I've already got an agreement with several comic/hobby shops in BC allowing me to host WBO tournaments and events there, if you're truly looking to promote it, I might suggest a similar start.
This is a serious suggestion: Write a letter to Takara-Tomy, find out how you can order MFB directly from them, or if you can give them stores willing to. See what happens.
(Oct. 14, 2009 4:05 AM)Deikailo Wrote:
Create our own battle system. New Yorkers have lives outside of the computer. We're going to need a tangible ranking system.
-So, basically, take a pen and paper, a file folder for each blader and hand write each match with a signature of each participant beside it. If the time to organize something on the computer is that difficult, I would suggest not trying to organize that something. Computers are wonderful information gathering and distribution locations, they're fast, convenient, connected, and a lot more organized with a hundred word documents than one hundred paper documents in a filing cabinet.
(Oct. 14, 2009 4:05 AM)Deikailo Wrote: Note: if we exceed 20 people, we need a park permit. FYI
- The park permit is rather unfortunate, but I understand your pain, I was facing the same issue when trying to organize the Vancouver Beyclubs first tournament. Not only was it tough, but selling things was a second permit, even if it was second hand. I'd suggest trying to work closely with shops that are willing to have you around.