Like I said before, they are probably even animewise or Shu is stronger due to current manga events.

We're done here, this has gone on for too long.

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Brave Valkyrie is my favorite bey, and Valt is my favorite character even if he's a bit overrated.

Like I said before, they are probably even animewise or Shu is stronger due to current manga events.

We're done here, this has gone on for too long.

I think we should determine who’s stronger based off battles. Not just who the anime says is stronger. (Because there is no battle evidence just rankings)

Like I said before, they are probably even animewise or Shu is stronger due to current manga events.

We're done here, this has gone on for too long.

I agree that this has gone on very long. We don’t want people to start fighting.

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Not bad eh?

Like I said before, they are probably even animewise or Shu is stronger due to current manga events.

We're done here, this has gone on for too long.

I think we should determine who’s stronger based off battles. Not just who the anime says is stronger. (Because there is no battle evidence just rankings)

Bruh, past battle evidence means nothing in terns of current events. That's how arguments get started.

Just go off of what you already have confirmed, no past speculation. Like I said, this should be a dead topic.

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Brave Valkyrie is my favorite bey, and Valt is my favorite character even if he's a bit overrated.

I think we should determine who’s stronger based off battles. Not just who the anime says is stronger. (Because there is no battle evidence just rankings)

Bruh, past battle evidence means nothing in terns of current events. That's how arguments get started.

Just go off of what you already have confirmed, no past speculation. Like I said, this should be a dead topic.

That’s what I mean we should wait for battles. I never said anything about past battles.

I'd just like to say that in the second season, Shu got more powerful than Free and even in the tournament Shu manged to reach the finals while Free could not win the semi finals because he had surpassed his limits and Shu had managed to defeat Free's hologram projection. In cho-z, while both of them lost to phi, shu did at least better than Free as his beyblade didn't break. And even now in the current timeline, I still feel shu's got just better since he's Lane's mentor and Lane also defeated Free which further proves that Shu's skills and the techniques he thought to Lane brought Lane a victory against Free. If Lane can defeat Free, don't you think his mentor can defeat free too?
I know most of what I'm saying aren't facts but that's what I feel like considering how Free has lost his touch as he's defeated by so many bladers now. Lui and Free while powerful don't have that kind of power and impact which they did in season 1 and season 2 when they were the most powerful bladers of their time. Atleast, Valt and Shu have preserved their power and are just getting better.

I'd just like to say that in the second season,  Shu got more powerful than Free and even in the tournament Shu manged to reach the finals while Free could not win the semi finals because he had surpassed his limits and Shu had managed to defeat Free's hologram projection. In cho-z,  while both of them lost to phi, shu did at least better than Free as his beyblade didn't break. And even now in the current timeline, I still feel shu's got just better since he's  Lane's mentor and Lane also defeated Free  which further proves that Shu's skills and the techniques he thought to Lane brought Lane a victory against Free. If Lane can defeat Free, don't you think his mentor can defeat free too?
I know most of what I'm saying aren't facts but that's what I feel like considering how Free has lost his touch as he's defeated by so many bladers now. Lui and Free while powerful don't have that kind of power and impact which they did in season 1 and season 2 when they were the most powerful bladers of their time. Atleast, Valt and Shu have preserved their power and are just getting better.

First you said that in the battle Phi vs Shu Shu's blade was not broken so you should first see the battle in YouTube because at last Shu's blade was broken into pieces yes Free's blade also broken but I want to say that Shu wasn't in control on his own he was in control of Sprizzan when he was Red Eye now he has made a one more devil or monster Lane VALHALLA like Red Eye. Shu trains Aiga before battle against Phi but Free help valt to learn how to use victory Valtryek so there is no comparison but yes both are legendary bladers I like both of them very much.

what if shu and free battled who will win

what if shu and free battled who will win

At this point in the anime, they probably would just have a tie due to some reason.

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Brave Valkyrie is my favorite bey, and Valt is my favorite character even if he's a bit overrated.

Shu shu and shu is more powerful

FUREEEEEEEEE

I think Shu more way stronger. Thought, he evolve Legend Spriggan in Spriggan Requiem. It was more powerful than Drain. Nightmare Longinus is at the same level as Drain Fafnir, yeah Lui lose to Free, but he not use full power. Like all bladers not use their full power

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Правда, когда у Шу была Легенда Спригган, он, несомненно, был слабее Фри, но я в основном имею в виду более позднее аниме, но я могу понять, что вы имеете в виду.

То есть Фри обыграл «Айгу» 5: 0. Но Я Фри - единственная причина, по которой Шу стал Красным Глазом.



В манге Шу стал красным глазом после того как Вальт проиграл Луи

i think they are equal in both power and knowledge

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I think they are around the same but maybe Shu a tad bit stronger

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Valt and Valkyrie are my favorite
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Bruh, Shu is definitely stronger. But the power difference is tiny.

actualy Shu is also stronger than valt other than Frees
shu defeat variant while variant defeat free and valt

Anime speaking she outclasses free AFTER turbo since there is said that if free didn’t give up in the half finals he would’ve won in his introduction in turbo. If we are talking prime free definitely takes this, he got way more experience more strength, is qua technique by far the best blader, and has better control over his bey, the stronger special move and the better feats, resonance is debatable for both on the one side you could say shu, because the whole red eye thingy where he became spriggan himself, on the other hand you could say that she was controlled by spriggan wich isn’t really good resonance. Free has learned valt how to reach better heights, knew that Valkyrie was talking to valt before valt knew it and was the first too see aiga his dark resonance. But as counter you could say these things don’t count because it wasn’t fafnir. Nevertheless shu has only a little bit resonance over free at max. Free is definitely the strongest

While I can definitely vouch for the insane power levels from both, I definitely have to give the cake here to Free De La Hoya

My reasoning is fairly simple to be completely honest

Both Shu and Free are incredible Bladers, no doubt about it. But from the time Free debuted and was introduced as the strongest ranked Blader in the whole world, to the time of the International Blader's Cup, Free was stronger than Shu. The argument I saw that Free is lazier is also kind of dumb, since the training Free does is about 30 times more intense. He more than earns that right to be a little laid back outside of training, and he stills takes Beyblade itself very seriously.

As for feats of strength, Shu has broken beys intentionally just to do it, which shows just how powerful Spryzen Requiem was in Evolution/God. But even with that kind of feat, it's also true that Free has the power to do so as well if he truly wanted to. And while there have been times where Free was ANGRY enough to, he never wanted to break someone else's Bey because he understands how much the Bey itself means to its Blader and he's a good guy

Shu also had impressive feats in future seasons despite only being a side character after God, as did Free. The battles with Aiga, Bel, the twins. It was always impressive from both of them. But in an overall sense, Free has to be stronger when he goes all out

Free beats the top Bladers in every series without even going all out, as someone else already pointed out. And the few times he has gone all out are against Valt, Lui, and Phi

Granted, while I do agree that Free pushing himself over his own limits and injuring himself was his own fault, I don't agree that it was because of Valt. Valt himself had nothing to do with that, it was just how badly Free wanted to win in general and remain the top Blader in the world. As a result, his desire to be the best pushed him to work too hard and he paid the price for it. Regardless, Free burst Valt's Valtryek with relative ease in the first battle, and it was evident going into the match that Free had already pushed himself too far, and each launch made it harder on him

Free wasn't even 100% going into the match to begin with because of how hard he had been pushing himself. So while he definitely went as hard as he could, he wasn't able to go all out the way he wanted to no matter how hard he might've been trying to do so.

Then, while Shu has also beaten a lot of the top Bladers in each series, he always has to put everything he has into it. From Lain to Aiga to Valt to Lui. Pretty much every powerful foe that Shu has beaten at their best by going all out himself, Free has beaten without ever going all out again after God/Evolution

In the sense of who's more powerful when going all out, I have to give it to Free. But if we're talking about who's stronger with their personalities and Free not going all out because he feels like he doesn't need to, I do think Shu would have a shot in that instance.