I wasn't discussing rights, though. I was bringing up intent. To me, it seems like the civil union is the 'secular marriage' - the 'Christmas for non-Christians', if you will. If you get the same benefits as a ceremonious marriage, and can pull off the same shindig, does it really matter to you?

I just thought I'd throw in my opinion here as I completely agree with Roan.

The whole aspect of the difference between a civil union and an official marriage ceremony is not entirely the point. It's the fact that there has to be a difference in the first place: this is what, I can only assume, gay people find so debilitative and so discouraging - the fact that they are not allowed to be a part of the exclusive (because that is what it is) club of married couples.

If you get the same benefits as a ceremonious marriage, and can pull off the same shindig, does it really matter to you?

I'm not gay but I can probably speak for a large number of gay people when I say the answer is yes. Not only do partners bound in a civil union NOT have the same rights as a married couple, it's the principle that matters the most here. Gay people are being offered an alternative. I believe that's what homosexuals find so detrimental - they want to be treated as equals.

I wasn't discussing rights, though. I was bringing up intent. To me, it seems like the civil union is the 'secular marriage' - the 'Christmas for non-Christians', if you will. If you get the same benefits as a ceremonious marriage, and can pull off the same shindig, does it really matter to you?

I just thought I'd throw in my opinion here as I completely agree with Roan.

The whole aspect of the difference between a civil union and an official marriage ceremony is not entirely the point. It's the fact that there has to be a difference in the first place: this is what, I can only assume, gay people find so debilitative and so discouraging - the fact that they are not allowed to be a part of the exclusive (because that is what it is) club of married couples.

If you get the same benefits as a ceremonious marriage, and can pull off the same shindig, does it really matter to you?

I'm not gay but I can probably speak for a large number of gay people when I say the answer is yes. Not only do partners bound in a civil union NOT have the same rights as a married couple, it's the principle that matters the most here. Gay people are being offered an alternative. I believe that's what homosexuals find so detrimental - they want to be treated as equals.

*Hug*

You said everything I wanted to only about twenty times better.

---

http://tornadomart.cocolog-nifty.com/new...index.html

this guy is my hero *_*

hgfjjjtrhjutetvqwtv

I passed my driver's test today.

w00t

---

^ cool man

***
peeps, this is definetly one of Fox's best shows ever. so glad I remebered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekY5QUltwT4

one of my dogs got into a fight with something a couple of minutes ago and was bleeding all over the floor, my parents just took her to the vet

I guess I won't be going to bed early tonight

annie thats rotten.

hgfjjjtrhjutetvqwtv

I passed my driver's test today.

w00t

YESSSSSSSSSS

annie thats rotten.

At least she didn't go after a bear.

Again.

[Sylvester the Panic] [DRIFTING TWIN DIVE BOMB] says:
lmfao what a carp with her pushup showing
[Sylvester the Panic] [DRIFTING TWIN DIVE BOMB] says:
lmfao hm
\+ĸäị+\ - "Ziiiips" says:
wat are you talking about
[Sylvester the Panic] [DRIFTING TWIN DIVE BOMB] says:
your cagali one is hot though (talking about a vector of Cagalli I did)
[Sylvester the Panic] [DRIFTING TWIN DIVE BOMB] says:
always liked her boobs
\+ĸäị+\ - "Ziiiips" says:
thanks for the info
[Sylvester the Panic] [DRIFTING TWIN DIVE BOMB] says:
LMFAO

-----------

Alrightie then

---

i can't believe you actually posted that

hahahaha

...

well that chick from no more heroes does seem like a whorebag

---

i can't believe you actually posted that

hahahaha

...

well that chick from no more heroes does seem like a whorebag

That's what you were talking about?! Haha, I was confused when that happened.

---

I. Hate. Nascar.

---

i can't believe you actually posted that

hahahaha

...

well that chick from no more heroes does seem like a whorebag

That's what you were talking about?! Haha, I was confused when that happened.

cagalli isn't a carp, she just cries too much

---

Just got the infamous palmrest crack

http://www.flickr.com/groups/crackedmacbook/pool/

Needs moar Ubuntu.

So when I get my permit and license, I might get an old BMW or AE86.

I forget which BMW model it was, but my uncle, being the BMW enthusiast that he is, suggested an old one as it was "the most maneuverable" compared to all the other cheaper models. (if you need a scale on old, it is slightly more box shaped)

Also, my dad said an 86 was good, as there were a lot used in his day in the Philippines.

---

I might join the Marines if I don't get into the college I want to get into... They're "postponing" their decision right now so I bet it's another way to say no.

I might join the Marines if I don't get into the college I want to get into... They're "postponing" their decision right now so I bet it's another way to say no.

Don't do it!

lol

---

Roan would rather you join the Navy.

BA-ZING!

---

I'm Ommy
http://unqualify.blogspot.com

In the navyyyy

there's no need to feel down

---

I'll see how it goes. If I wait too long which it I have to if I want to know then they just carp me up for the other colleges. And I have to fill out that FAFSA thing too, but in order to do that, I need to get in a college first.

Jesus christ I am bored.

---

yeah same i'm pretty much just looking at underwear out of boredom

5th snow dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

If we get another one, we still only make up for 5 snow days, so the next ones are FREE DAYS OFF

MOAR SNOW PLZ

---

balls