(Sep. 06, 2022 11:56 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: (Sep. 06, 2022 11:29 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I'm not really too broken up about not seeing Lodin, it wasn't his story and unless he was not going to be moving the story forward, it was right for him not to be there beyond his contribution to the story. As far as it being too late for Arman, I don't even know what that really means. One of the things I love about Burst is they focus on the internal growth as characters and not just growth in Blading skill. Arman had a complete character arc where he really had to learn to value the good qualities he had to offer and it only once he began to value the things he brought to the table instead of comparing himself to Dante and Delta was he able to move forward not only as a blader but as a person. So I really don't think the "too late" point really tracks. When you get good material like that when a character grows both within and without, I don't think that angle really holds weight. Arman
Blindt had given up on tournaments. He wasn't training, he was bored lol. He says so himself when Delta first comes to battle him. The Risen 3 themselves were never central to the overall story, when you look at the main arcs, they're not the focus of any of them really. They appear, but we're never central. Rise has basically three main story arcs; Bey Carnival, Battle Island, and Defense of the Blading World. The Risen 3 aren't central to any of those for the simple reason as it wasn't their story.
Ik they weren't all that relevant. All im saying is that it WOULD HAVE been cool to see more of them. Like they hype up these bladers but basically threw them out right when their introduce. Again im not calling amane bad, and im not saying he had bad development at all. He had a solid character but from when i watched it they dont put much focus on him until the final arc. Everyone can agree that throughout the majority of the season amane was only used to advertise new beys and opponents drum had to beat. Amane only got any real (yet really good) development when the season was already coming to an end. Everything up to that point was all up to drum and delta. Amane wanting to catch up to them was still a solid character point for him. He showed clear frustration that he couldnt catch up so he used that frustration as determination to improve himself And through that hard work he not only connected with ashura but activated gold turbo showing that they truely had a strong bond, he also wanted to make the victories a well known team. I even agreed with you when you made his character break down. But why do you think amane was fustrated? For the same reason i mentioned for a majority of the season he was left in the dust and irrelevant only used to advertise beys and opponents for drum. He doesnt have wasted potential I like him, he had a cool design, bey, character arc but they only started touching on it at the end.
One rule of thumb when it comes to writing is to get rid of the excess. If something is not serving to move plot or character forward, it needs to discarded. Now they could thrown Lodin for example somewhere else down the line, but that would have been exactly the kind of excess economical storytelling tells one to get rid of, not add. Because he simply would have been there and not progressing plot or character forward. Blindt appears later where he actually was contributing to the story because that was a place he could actually do so. Having him around just to hang around is not wise use of one's storytelling time. If something is not contributing to pushing the story or characters forward, It has to go. Lodin pushed the story forward during the Bey Carnival and as such he was rightfully there.
I think sometimes people say we should have seen more of this character or more of that character without regard for wether if they could actually would have a role to play in pushing the story. Character appearances for appearances sake which would create a weakness in the story, not a strength.
Arman's being able to form a connection with Ashindra, to achieve hyper flux, wasn't purely down to training, it was only once he recognized the value of his combination of his personal qualities was able to forge that connection. It was that personal, internal realization that opened the way for that and it's personal, internal relatable growth like that I look for when I'm selecting characters for a arc breakdown. It wasn't just mere frustration, the real struggle was about that lack of understanding of and confidence in his own unique blend of qualities. I look foe not just growth in Blading, but personal relatable character arcs. Silas, Daigo, Ken, Gwyn, Delta & Arman journey within themselves had nothing to do really with Blading but with human struggles (not knowing where one belongs, a struggle with guilt, the healing human connection can bring etc) nothing really to do with Blading, but simply human feelings that sprung up in a beyblade context.
It's not in dispute that Arman's main arc took place towards the end of the season, it was his entire journey up to that point that made that arc work, it culminated in his personal growth at the end. The same is true of Delta, they worked up to his rounding out of his arc.