Rnataro made Lane caught off-gaurd, when Lane did LTE, he coudn't recover in time because of Rantaro. So Valt swooped in and took him out, it wasn't raw power, it was Lucifer not recovering in time and Rantaro sacirficing him self, you could baisically say Valt won by fluke, Valt used a special move when Lane didn't use one. AIga and Lane didn't use special moves. ANd also Rangiro is trash and can't do anything. I know you don't want to talk about Cho-Z but in GT, all Valt did was have 3 unoffical battles facing bladers who were very weak at the time(Drum and Amane), at least Aiga beat Drum when he had a very good amount of skill/strength.

Lane used LTE and bursted Rantaro. There was nothing for Lane to recover from. Valt then knocked him out with Brave Sword. It was Valt's power that knocked him out the stadium. It certainly wasn't Rantaro seeing as he was bursted already. And Ranjiro isn't trash, at least not by the time of the tag tournament. That hyper tornado was extremely powerful as was clear from the episode, that tornado was the sole reason Aiger bursted Rantaro and knocked out Valt. On the point of GT, yes they were further along in their development when Aiger faced them, but given how severally Valt outclassed them when they battled there's nothing to suggest he wouldn't have done the same at a later juncture. So in GT they were about equal and by sparking Valt is the stronger blader.

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All Achilles did was go higher there was no additional power being given to Achilles.

There certainly was, lifting Achilles that high gave it a boost in speed in power as it descended, that's the whole point of the hyper tornado.

To be fair, Valt did have 3 win conditions that allowed him to knock out Lean in the first place.
1. Rantaro sacrificed himself to waste Limit Break The End, which could take out Valkyrie easily.
2. Lucifer was knocked off balance from Valkyrie and Ragnurak's combo. Definitely lost some stamina after those consecutive attacks.
3. Lean was surprised that Valt was coming after him immediately after he thrashed Rantaro.

Now, I'm not saying that Valt doesn't have any raw power, but he definitely would not have come anywhere close without all of those 3 things, before you could even SPEAK about power.
I'm also not saying that Aiga's stronger either. He also had multiple win conditions allowing him to take out Rantaro and Valt is an easy fashion. Point I'm getting at here, is that Valt and Aiga are already even enough as it is. Imo, Aiga's just lagging behind by a hair, just like Shu. Rankings don't always mean everything, especially when they come from the manga continuity, and not the anime's. Still, I think the anime rolls with it for the most part, and Valt has outperformed Aiga in Sparking, mainly with the Lean battle.

Long story short, I believe that at MOST Valt is slightly above Aiga, if not at LEAST even with him.

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Brave Valkyrie is my favorite bey, and Valt is my favorite character even if he's a bit overrated.

Honestly, Valt and Aiga being equals in gt is mostly headcanon. In truth we have zero idea. Valt easily beat Amane and Drum but he beat them at their weakest point and those were the only two battles he had. Aiga isn’t much different either. He beat Amane (who was still bad at this point) and barely beat Drum (but Drum is WAY stronger since he now has 3 bases plus full gold turbo). He then loses to Arthur who is semi-high in power level (although it may be because he didn’t understand the system). Frankly, there isn’t enough to go off of to say they are equals, let alone scale them all that much. If I didn’t know any better I’d say they intentionally left in ambiguous (hence the season ending).

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Lane used LTE and bursted Rantaro. There was nothing for Lane to recover from. Valt then knocked him out with Brave Sword. It was Valt's power that knocked him out the stadium. It certainly wasn't Rantaro seeing as he was bursted already. And Ranjiro isn't trash, at least not by the time of the tag tournament. That hyper tornado was extremely powerful as was clear from the episode, that tornado was the sole reason Aiger bursted Rantaro and knocked out Valt. On the point of GT, yes they were further along in their development when Aiger faced them, but given how severally Valt outclassed them when they battled there's nothing to suggest he wouldn't have done the same at a later juncture. So in GT they were about equal and by sparking Valt is the stronger blader.

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There certainly was, lifting Achilles that high gave it a boost in speed in power as it descended, that's the whole point of the hyper tornado.

To be fair, Valt did have 3 win conditions that allowed him to knock out Lean in the first place.
1. Rantaro sacrificed himself to waste Limit Break The End, which could take out Valkyrie easily.
2. Lucifer was knocked off balance from Valkyrie and Ragnurak's combo. Definitely lost some stamina after those consecutive attacks.
3. Lean was surprised that Valt was coming after him immediately after he thrashed Rantaro.

Now, I'm not saying that Valt doesn't have any raw power, but he definitely would not have come anywhere close without all of those 3 things, before you could even SPEAK about power.
I'm also not saying that Aiga's stronger either. He also had multiple win conditions allowing him to take out Rantaro and Valt is an easy fashion. Point I'm getting at here, is that Valt and Aiga are already even enough as it is. Imo, Aiga's just lagging behind by a hair, just like Shu. Rankings don't always mean everything, especially when they come from the manga continuity, and not the anime's. Still, I think the anime rolls with it for the most part, and Valt has outperformed Aiga in Sparking, mainly with the Lean battle.

Long story short, I believe that at MOST Valt is slightly above Aiga, if not at LEAST even with him.

I think we see some things differently about that battle against L&S and about Lain in general. We had a similar discussion about Lane. So I don't think we'll probably get anywhere in our discussing it. Though I disagree I do respect your opinion.

Honestly, Valt and Aiga being equals in gt is mostly headcanon. In truth we have zero idea. Valt easily beat Amane and Drum but he beat them at their weakest point and those were the only two battles he had. Aiga isn’t much different either. He beat Amane (who was still bad at this point) and barely beat Drum (but Drum is WAY stronger since he now has 3 bases plus full gold turbo). He then loses to Arthur who is semi-high in power level (although it may be because he didn’t understand the system). Frankly, there isn’t enough to go off of to say they are equals, let alone scale them all that much. If I didn’t know any better I’d say they intentionally left in ambiguous (hence the season ending).

exactly theirs nothing indicating if their equal nor one is stronger or weaker than another. that's why to me fans should just leave gt comparison out of it between these two.

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As much as I like to debate who's stronger and dissect all the episodes looking for proof I think we are all missing the point here. Sparking gave us evidence that legends are roughly equals in strength. Obviously given their performance we can be sure people like Shu, Valt and Aiga are stronger then Rantaro or Ranjiro but the point is: at certain condition anyone can bet anyone. Even though we can assume Drum is weaker then Aiga, it is also true he can beat him every now and then, same for Lui vs Valt or basically any others. I mean sure thing there's a ranking and I like make tier list but the gap between them is minimum and in a way thats makes it all more credible as in real life rarely number ones are unbeatable, they simply win most of the time

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As much as I like to debate who's stronger and dissect all the episodes looking for proof I think we are all missing the point here. Sparking gave us evidence that legends are roughly equals in strength. Obviously given their performance we can be sure people like Shu, Valt and Aiga are stronger then Rantaro or Ranjiro but the point is: at certain condition anyone can bet anyone. Even though we can assume Drum is weaker then Aiga, it is also true he can beat him every now and then, same for Lui vs Valt or basically any others. I mean sure thing there's a ranking and I like make tier list but the gap between them is minimum and in a way thats makes it all more credible as in real life rarely number ones are unbeatable, they simply win most of the time

Yeah, it's almost impossible to win every single battle in every situation with a competition as tough as this one. The gap between Valt and Ranjiro doesn't seem to be that too big imo, and everyone else would just barely squeeze within that. Just like real life sports, you mainly got a couple top contenders, and rarely ever having a dominating individual.

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Brave Valkyrie is my favorite bey, and Valt is my favorite character even if he's a bit overrated.

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S: Clash! Dynamite Battle!, Chouzetsu Muteki Blader
A: Evolution Burst, Gatti'n'roll
B: Burst Finish, Sparking Revolution
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By the way, the sequence of listing the names is relevant. The one closest to the letters is my favorite out of the category.

I think it would be cool if they made Beyblade remakes for each season.
1.Bakuten Shoot Beyblade
The adaption is fine, but with the technology they have now they could get better animation and voice acting.

2. Metal Fight Beyblade
Everything about it is pretty good, but an adaption would still be very nice.

3. Beyblade Burst
It's solid for the most part but it would be nice to get an adaption that follows the manga storylines. Also I think an artstyle closer to the manga like the first generations would be cool.

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I think it would be cool if they made Beyblade remakes for each season.
1.Bakuten Shoot Beyblade
The adaption is fine, but with the technology they have now they could get better animation and voice acting.

2. Metal Fight Beyblade
Everything about it is pretty good, but an adaption would still be very nice.

3. Beyblade Burst
It's solid for the most part but it would be nice to get an adaption that follows the manga storylines. Also I think an artstyle closer to the manga like the first generations would be cool.

Here is how I would do the Burst one.

#1 
Valt is heading to school and remembers when he first saw Valkyrie in a store window. At school he decides to get revenge against Rantaro but accidentally launches at the principal's statue. The Gym Teacher gets mad and they go to detention, and both lose their beys. Valt and Rantaro argue with each other as the Gym Teacher exists his office. Valt begs him for theb ey and he ends up giving it back. Later that day Valt wants to have a proper battle with Rantaro and hears abou a District Tournament coming up. He trains a lot to relearn the basics of Beyblade and then goes to sign up. The first match is Valt vs Rantaro. The first round Valkyrie gets knocked out, but the second one Valt uses rush launch to burst Ragnurak. 

Valt is excited and the next day at school he brags alot. During lunch break they head up to the roof and see Shu training. Valt tells Shu he's gonna meet him in the tournament and beat him, but Shu says right now he has no chance. 

#2
Valt is surprised and sulks throughout the school, angry at Shu. Some kids come up to him and ask to see a Rush Launch. He tries a Rush Launch and does it, and gets very prideful again. after school he sees an ad for a play and goes to it, where a knight can't beat a dragon because he is too full of himself. Valt likes it and meets a puppeteer named Ken that was one of the people behind it. The next day at the tournament Valt goes up against Ken. He has alot of faith is his Rush Launch and he accidentally performs it wrong, and loses the wrong. He remembers and play and realizes he's just won one match and still has to look out for stronger bladers. He pays for attention and wins the next round with a burst. Valt celebrates and it pans up to Daigo and Wakiya watching the match.


#3
Valt decides to make a Beyclub, and gets Ken and Rantaro to join him. They encounter Daigo, who wants to join and is a big fan. He actually just insults Valt and makes Valt very riled up. Later that day at the tournament they have the remaining 8 bladers line up but Valt is super late and just makes it. Valt sees SHu and Wakiya battle before ending off facing against Daigo. In the first round he's too mad to fight well however the battle is really fun and that brings him back to his senses. After a bunch of ties he wins.

#4
In the morning Valt sees Shu passing by his house and gets him to come in. Valt says he saw Wakiya's battle but he'll still beat him. Shu says he needs alot more training. coincidentally Shu's going on a training trip so Valt comes with him. Valt does really badly but eventually gets the hang of it. Next battle in the tournament he faces Wakiya and does well but can't get past Wyvren's defense and loses. He realizes he still has tires on his back form training and takes those off. Now he is able to perform a new move called the Flash Launch and burst Wyvern.

Do you know if there are some slapstick in Beyblade? Because the details on Netflix saying some violence with Beyblade Burst titles.

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Do you know if there are some slapstick in Beyblade? Because the details on Netflix saying some violence with Beyblade Burst titles.

It just means the bey battles. It probably said fantasy violence.

Just noticed something in the DB opening (I've been watching Pixi's video too many times lol) and thought I would point it out. You guys have probably noticed it too, but when Valkyrie dives down and flames erupt with the scene changing to Goodman, you can see Valkyrie's color change to red BEFORE the flames spout. Assuming it's not a simple animation error and is meant to be there, I think it could be that Goodman starts with a red Brave Valkyrie before switching to a Dynamite Battle Bey. It isn't very improbable as we already have Basara using Solomon and Goodman kind of resembles Valt. Or maybe I'm seeing too much in a split second of animation. What do you guys think?

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Just noticed something in the DB opening (I've been watching Pixi's video too many times lol) and thought I would point it out. You guys have probably noticed it too, but when Valkyrie dives down and flames erupt with the scene changing to Goodman, you can see Valkyrie's color change to red BEFORE the flames spout. Assuming it's not a simple animation error and is meant to be there, I think it could be that Goodman starts with a red Brave Valkyrie before switching to a Dynamite Battle Bey. It isn't very improbable as we already have Basara using Solomon and Goodman kind of resembles Valt. Or maybe I'm seeing too much in a split second of animation. What do you guys think?

Idk dude I just thought it turned red because it was about to burn up. The only theory I thought of on seeing that shot was that there's a possibility that Rashad and Valt already know each other.

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From what I've heard Gingka is confirmed to be the strongest blader in metal fight, but I've yet to find where that was stated. Anyone know where I can find that?

From what I've heard Gingka is confirmed to be the strongest blader in metal fight, but I've yet to find where that was stated. Anyone know where I can find that?

Uh, please take this with a grain of salt as it's been so long since I last watched anything MFB-related, but I remember that it was mentioned once in Zero-G/Shogun Steel

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From what I've heard Gingka is confirmed to be the strongest blader in metal fight, but I've yet to find where that was stated. Anyone know where I can find that?

Uh, please take this with a grain of salt as it's been so long since I last watched anything MFB-related, but I remember that it was mentioned once in Zero-G/Shogun Steel

I'll take a look

From what I've heard Gingka is confirmed to be the strongest blader in metal fight, but I've yet to find where that was stated. Anyone know where I can find that?

The beyblade wiki says that Gingka is number #1.

From what I've heard Gingka is confirmed to be the strongest blader in metal fight, but I've yet to find where that was stated. Anyone know where I can find that?

The beyblade wiki says that Gingka is number #1.

He reached #1 after his win in battle bladers but it was mentioned later on aside from that. I'm trying to find where that was stated. At the beginning of Fury Ryuga was the strongest between him and Gingka. I heard from a couple of people here that Gingka was confirmed to be the strongest after fury and I'm trying to find that statement.

The beyblade wiki says that Gingka is number #1.

He reached #1 after his win in battle bladers but it was mentioned later on aside from that. I'm trying to find where that was stated. At the beginning of Fury Ryuga was the strongest between him and Gingka.

Gingka was number #1 in japan after battle bladers, and in the end of metal masters it was stated by him and others that he was number #1, and Ryuga is dea-gone so now its proboaly Gingka

He reached #1 after his win in battle bladers but it was mentioned later on aside from that. I'm trying to find where that was stated. At the beginning of Fury Ryuga was the strongest between him and Gingka.

Gingka was number #1 in japan after battle bladers, and in the end of metal masters it was stated by him and others that he was number #1, and Ryuga is dea-gone so now its proboaly Gingka

Yeah I know he was # 1 after battle bladers and metal masters. Not talking about rankings specifically. Though Gingka was #1 Ryuga was stronger than him in Fury. I'm acutally not debating who's stronger than who, I want to find that statement where it was said Gingka was the strongest.

Gingka was number #1 in japan after battle bladers, and in the end of metal masters it was stated by him and others that he was number #1, and Ryuga is dea-gone so now its proboaly Gingka

Yeah I know he was # 1 after battle bladers and metal masters. Not talking about rankings specifically. Though Gingka was #1 Ryuga was stronger than him in Fury. I'm acutally not debating who's stronger than who, I want to find that statement where it was said Gingka was the strongest.

Try asking Zeutron. He was the one who stated it first.