Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts

(Aug. 01, 2018  7:49 AM)JavariTheChamp Wrote: I have a theory, since cho z has metal And the og beyblade “MS” has metal and since beyblade rising came out and since og beyblades are in burst I saw leads me to say if they make a burst version of the og beyblades but as “MS” and sales will go up, and since cho z is the tenth season of Beyblade,and the 20th anikversary of beyblade,it’s leads me a final Beyblade showing will be this movie with tyson kai and his gang and like valt and aiga fubuki those guys, will have an epic beyblade conclusion to finish out Everything of Beyblade as the final installment of the franchise, that will end of with major surprises and cliffhangers and Ann awesome ending to end off Beyblade, for this to happen sales would have to be great for the animation! And maybe after I finish the movie comes an actual Beyblade season 4 might happen after the movie. And I don’t me ntion ginka or zyro Just because I don’t think  mfb is canon to the beyblade timeline

Technically Bakuten Shoot and Burst aren't in the same timeline either, no not even Bakuten Shoot Rising is in the Burst universe.
(Aug. 01, 2018  7:33 PM)Oh well, atleast I could try to get up my hopes but hopefully there is a beyblade burstmmovieJinbee Wrote:
(Aug. 01, 2018  7:49 AM)JavariTheChamp Wrote: I have a theory, since cho z has metal And the og beyblade “MS” has metal and since beyblade rising came out and since og beyblades are in burst I saw leads me to say if they make a burst version of the og beyblades but as “MS” and sales will go up, and since cho z is the tenth season of Beyblade,and the 20th anikversary of beyblade,it’s leads me a final Beyblade showing will be this movie with tyson kai and his gang and like valt and aiga fubuki those guys, will have an epic beyblade conclusion to finish out Everything of Beyblade as the final installment of the franchise, that will end of with major surprises and cliffhangers and Ann awesome ending to end off Beyblade, for this to happen sales would have to be great for the animation! And maybe after I finish the movie comes an actual Beyblade season 4 might happen after the movie. And I don’t me ntion ginka or zyro Just because I don’t think  mfb is canon to the beyblade timeline

Technically Bakuten Shoot and Burst aren't in the same timeline either, no not even Bakuten Shoot Rising is in the Burst universe.

Alright, for whatever reason I first started watching Beyblade burst in dub then I switched to sub, the voice actors sound so weird lol
Speaking of which, when the God Bladers Cup was announced, I was cetain Zac and Ken were going to be the two surprise characters. Norman and Kurtz were great, but still they wasted their opportunity.
Based on what everyone's saying about Kyle, I hope this means Ken entrusted H Kerbeus to him.
(Aug. 02, 2018  4:06 PM)Strider Xanthos Wrote: Based on what everyone's saying about Kyle, I hope this means Ken entrusted H Kerbeus to him.

That may be true ( I don't think Ken would have given HK to Kyle , Kyle have genetically made HK )
(Jul. 31, 2018  4:19 AM)Strider Xanthos Wrote: Believe it or not, I'm fine with Beywheelz. Yeah the season was cliche and the twists were obvious, but it was fun, the new characters didn't annoy me, a girl got to bey....battle, and some of the battles were cool despite being wheelz. The sequel season can go straight to hell and that is the worst anime I've ever seen. Cyborg I haven't watched.

Cyborg is not as easy to find (though TBF, I haven't tried looking for it in ages) and from what I can gather, it has a very different tone from the rest of the spin-offs. It's noticeably more... "mature" I guess.
Burst season 1: Stamina Types
Yeah they were almost the weakest types. Seriously, I've complained about this on 3 sites already but with the exception of Zac, back in season one, if you were a stamina blader, you weren't have a above 50/50 win record.
And its not like most of them were bad characters, though I'm not a fan of Yugo.......Stan's much worse.
Rantaro was given mad respect by Shu and had a 50% win record but his only strategies were using a weaker Flash Shoot and Roktavor Zone quicker, even Ken telling him he just can't rely on being a regular Stamina type. At least he beat Kyo in the finals.
Hoji, great character, never grew as a blader despite Zac knowing how much potential he had. If only his brother grew up to be nicer.
Yugo......has he ever won a battle? Seriously Wakiya took him out with one shot, and I'm sure even Rantaro could beat him. He didn't even have a special move despite focusing on counter attacks and friction reduction, Teru from the Metal Saga did this right.
Jin, functionally (insert MVCI joke) his bey works the best out of all the stamina types sans Zeus, and was a fun character. 50% win record because Shu needed more hype lol.
Zac: go to tv tropes ymmv for the full reason, but Zac does not deserve any of the hate he gets. Dude carried the stamina type for that whole show for 23 episodes straight.
Season 2
Free: Thank heavens they didn't make his bey a defense type.
Sasha: Good character, just needed a Switchtrike/God bey or just have her be the new Gaia
Ghasem: A well needed battling style separate and unique enough to have a stamina type while also showing how stamina types can use friction to more offensive abilities. Shame Red Eye broke his bey
Clio: The one dude who I thought was going to make it in the God Bladers Cup and one of the few people to dab on them haters who makes it work. Also, Clio's a freaking troll
(Aug. 07, 2018  10:01 AM)Strider Xanthos Wrote:

 Ah I was wondering if you read TV Tropes YMMV until you mentioned it haha.

To me, I felt like defense type bladers, while almost all consistently good never had a super powerful blader in the same league as Shu, Lui, Valt, Free etc. until Phi. To me I thought attack type bladers overall were the most OP.
(Aug. 07, 2018  10:17 AM)Jinbee Wrote:
(Aug. 07, 2018  10:01 AM)Strider Xanthos Wrote:

 Ah I was wondering if you read TV Tropes YMMV until you mentioned it haha.

To me, I felt like defense type bladers, while almost all consistently good never had a super powerful blader in the same league as Shu, Lui, Valt, Free etc. until Phi. To me I thought attack type bladers overall were the most OP.

Yeah I know, I added that because I kept going around to find opinions on Zac, most of which were just downright ridiculous or true to the character. 
Yeah it was odd that the Supreme Four didn't have a defense type in their midst.
I'd say God/Evolution and Super Z hasn't had that problem yet. Although Joshua was kinda broken, seriously, how did Lui even beat him?
Its a tie between Attack and Balance for the most OP now.
I feel that tie will be broke by Aiga and will go to balance
(Aug. 07, 2018  11:52 AM)Strider Xanthos Wrote:
(Aug. 07, 2018  10:17 AM)Jinbee Wrote:  Ah I was wondering if you read TV Tropes YMMV until you mentioned it haha.

To me, I felt like defense type bladers, while almost all consistently good never had a super powerful blader in the same league as Shu, Lui, Valt, Free etc. until Phi. To me I thought attack type bladers overall were the most OP.

Yeah I know, I added that because I kept going around to find opinions on Zac, most of which were just downright ridiculous or true to the character. 
Yeah it was odd that the Supreme Four didn't have a defense type in their midst.
I'd say God/Evolution and Super Z hasn't had that problem yet. Although Joshua was kinda broken, seriously, how did Lui even beat him?
Its a tie between Attack and Balance for the most OP now.

Yeah I read the Breaking Base Character section with Zac and I don't remember seeing anyone dislike Zac for THAT one reason, though I haven't looked around for opinions on Zac enough.

Joshua was kinda broken at first, but it was against booster beyblades, and never against a starter beyblade, a better question is how Xhaka easily beat him, 2-0 in fact, not even like 2-1.
@[Strider Xanthos] I removed Yugo from The Scrappy list on TV Tropes just because I don't think he's hated by people that much, let alone to be a Scrappy.
(Aug. 07, 2018  12:30 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: @[Strider Xanthos] I removed Yugo from The Scrappy list on TV Tropes just because I don't think he's hated by people that much, let alone to be a Scrappy.

I actually didn't add him, that was kitty. There are some people who like Yugo, and some who don't. To me he just loses too much to be credible but I don't hate him. 
Stan on the other hand, he could go get pummled by that girl with nunchucks straight in the nuts

(Aug. 07, 2018  12:22 PM)Jinbee Wrote: Yeah I read the Breaking Base Character section with Zac and I don't remember seeing anyone dislike Zac for THAT one reason, though I haven't looked around for opinions on Zac enough.

Joshua was kinda broken at first, but it was against booster beyblades, and never against a starter beyblade, a better question is how Xhaka easily beat him, 2-0 in fact, not even like 2-1.

Yeah, some videos might be removed cuz of copyright, but there are always people arguing about Zac, especially on youtube. The win loss record thing I understand, the homophobia was just uncalled for.

Booster/Starter?
The trick to beating Joshua is to knock him out of the stadium or Burst him before Cyclone Wall activates. Odds are Xhaka/Xander's Triple Impact/Saber attacked the layer beforehand.
@[Strider Xanthos] true, but I would've thought the unactivated shield would absorb the hits in a similar way it did against Fafnir. By Booster and Starter, I mean booster beyblade owners who, are typically average to decent strength, like Cuza, Daina or Rantaro, while Starter beyblade owners are typically the strongest bladers, most of them anyway and Joshua has never beaten one of those, not even Sisco or Xhaka, and most certainly not Free, Lui or Valt.
(Aug. 07, 2018  12:45 PM)Strider Xanthos Wrote:
(Aug. 07, 2018  12:30 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: @[Strider Xanthos] I removed Yugo from The Scrappy list on TV Tropes just because I don't think he's hated by people that much, let alone to be a Scrappy.

I actually didn't add him, that was kitty. There are some people who like Yugo, and some who don't. To me he just loses too much to be credible but I don't hate him. 
Stan on the other hand, he could go get pummled by that girl with nunchucks straight in the nuts.

I know you didn't add him. I'm just explaining why I removed him even though he was originally there. I also removed Yugo since Koji (Hoji's bro) gets more hate and isn't on The Scrappy list so it wouldn't make sense to keep Yugo there.

Personally, I don't hate Stan as much as most people but I can see why he isn't liked.
@[Jinbee] So I guess that explains how everyone determines which blader will be strong, focused on, or meh.

Can he use Cyclone Counter repeatedly? Cuz I’m his match against Daigo (Daigo should’ve won), Deathscizor survived, probably because it didn’t take too much damage until it was used, so Daigo had around two Burst layers left.

@ [LOL-y Rancher] Koji is such a jerk. Though its only 19 episodes in, and he hasn't done too much since the Longnius Cup so I've been hesitant to add him.
I'm all for characters that aren't OP when they're introduced like Yugo, Jin, Clio or Ghazeem. Imo this is the #1 problem of chouzetsu. In the latest episodes there was always a new blader introduced that just had to beat Aiga and others for no reason, only to lose relevance a few episodes later. I get it with people that are going to remain good atleast for a while like Phi or Xhan, but for Laban or Kyle to win against Aiga, who won the longinus cup and defeated Lui, feels like crappy marketing to hype up the beys while butchering the story.
What is going on
(Aug. 07, 2018  3:51 PM)Limetka Wrote: I'm all for characters that aren't OP when they're introduced like Yugo, Jin, Clio or Ghazeem. Imo this is the #1 problem of chouzetsu. In the latest episodes there was always a new blader introduced that just had to beat Aiga and others for no reason, only to lose relevance a few episodes later. I get it with people that are going to remain good atleast for a while like Phi or Xhan, but for Laban or Kyle to win against Aiga, who won the longinus cup and defeated Lui, feels like crappy marketing to hype up the beys while butchering the story.
I can kind of agree, everyone has defeated Aiga, and Aiga defeated Lui, does that mean all are better than Lui? No. Aiga was defeated by Fubuki, and Fubuki is no match to Lui as of now. Every character just beats Aiga so that Aiga has some character development in my opinion. But I think Aiga was only made to defeat Lui to introduce the level chip.
Your marketing point seems right, but they to gotta sell beyblades right? And what is better than making the beyblade lose against the protagonist? 
This in my opinion catches the veiwers attention on both, the anime and the beyblade. 
The beyblade because it defeated the protagonist beyblade and the anime in curiosity and suspense of what will happen. And at the end, Aiga fights back and then we are back to square one about what the other character does, thus the viewer os hooked to the anime or manga. So it's kind of a Win-win situation. ^_^.
Well, look at it this way
(Aug. 07, 2018  5:10 PM)Jinbee Wrote: Well, look at it this way

I mean I liked how Cuza defeated Kurtz. It was building up to it with him feeling worthless and always losing,  he even used the development he got in the snake pit arc. With Laban defeating Aiga, you can say that it was technically Suoh who bursted Achilles and Laban just had a good strategy. But then, episode 19 we finally see Aiga actually win something, only for the writers to be like: "wait wait kerbeus gotta sell" in episode 20, throwing a quick completely random match in there.

I mean I still love chouzetsu but this has been a problem for me lately. Well atleast Kerbeus had a cool new move.
@[Strider Xanthos] I have no idea, but he did manage to use it multiple times in a round against Fafnir, even when he got cocky the second round he managed to do it.

@[Limetka] that certainly is true. As for the thing about Chouzetsu having that problem of beyblades winning in their debut to sell beyblades, well... that's a problem Burst has had since the first season, always advertising new beys only to have them become fodder when they become old or irrelevant, unless it were some starter beys, but it was weird with Kyle as 
. But from what I could tell, Kyle probably fought Aiga to get data on him, then beat him after knowing his moves.
@[Limetka] At least Burst is keeping all nine main bladers active at the moment.....I miss Toko
(Aug. 07, 2018  3:51 PM)Limetka Wrote: I'm all for characters that aren't OP when they're introduced like Yugo, Jin, Clio or Ghazeem. Imo this is the #1 problem of chouzetsu. In the latest episodes there was always a new blader introduced that just had to beat Aiga and others for no reason, only to lose relevance a few episodes later. I get it with people that are going to remain good atleast for a while like Phi or Xhan, but for Laban or Kyle to win against Aiga, who won the longinus cup and defeated Lui, feels like crappy marketing to hype up the beys while butchering the story.

That's my problem with super z,  I understand that the writers are hyping the new bladers who some of them are supposed to be stronger than aiga but the problem is aiga just beat lui who we can all agree is one of the strongest blader in burst series.  By making aiga lose so much to these after he beat lui kind of make lui look bad. The aiga losing so much doesn't make since if he just beat lui , the should've done this longinus cup after the current arc we have like this it wouldn't be a problem. but it also depends how you view it aiga beating lui doesn't actually make him stronger since lui was pretty much dominating the match aiga only got in the game after , it's not like it's a lui vs free , shu vs lui even valt vs lui,  free and shu who are on equal footing. But for aiga he was desperating trying to find a way to beat lui and the writers can give an excuse that Lui kind of underestimating aiga but like I said it depends on how fans will view it.
I'd say that the only reason Aiga lost so many times after, advertising reasons aside, is that Aiga was probably unfamiliar with the new gimmicks and how to deal with them. Like, he probably didn't know how to deal with a beyblade who can resist a burst finish once, or a beyblade that could latch on their beyblade and throw it (while also dealing with Souh), a beyblader who can increase their power after being clicked, or a beyblader who switch their strategies drastically with their springy layer abilities after being beaten the first time. Aiga probably had an idea of how Longinus and Lui worked after fighting him twice, as well as seeing him fight and yet he still struggled. The others are newcomers who can be unpredictable, and therefore harder to come up with a plan immediately (besides against Kyle, and Phi is meant to be stronger than the champion anyway).
That and Aiga's......a newbie. He forgot his bey was a balance type.