Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts

(Dec. 19, 2020  6:43 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: Flare isnt a problem

Ur right, Lane’s Flare is the problem😉 thanks for pointing that out
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:39 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:37 PM)Admiral W Wrote: All the data from those bladers was put into the program, is it the ultimate representation? Certainly not, but it does provide useful details. And the representation it presented was entirely plausible. I have a feeling that Hikaru is actually going to take what he learned from that simulation and use it. Specifically his use of limit break.

If you were say, Ranjiro and you were fighting against Lain. Lets say Lain has some random Beyblade. The Beyblade has a fatal flaw You notice it and instantly change your strategy to adapt to the situation. You can't really do that as a replica in beyblade Virtual. All it is is just Rush Launch , yada yada yada. It takes the pre existing data, but it can't create new strategies.

It actually did create new strategy's in the simulation. Things we hadn't seen before. Based on the beys capabilities it created certain scenarios. In fact it replicated Lucius The End's capabilities perfectly. All I'm saying is that Valtryek was capable of moving Lucius' lock which means it not outside Valt capability to do the same. Of course it's not as complex as the human brain. It would be impossible for it to be. But it can replicate the capabilities of beys very well.
I like watching drums story go on in sparking, he never met all these other legends before and he didn’t get the chance to beat valt in gachi (valt would’ve gotten destroyed tho) but he does now in sparking
Anyone remember when Gold/Dark/Superior Turbo was actually fundamental for the story and Resonance as well? I wanted Flare and Turbo to be connected to Resonance instead of another thing.
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:45 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:39 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: If you were say, Ranjiro and you were fighting against Lain. Lets say Lain has some random Beyblade. The Beyblade has a fatal flaw You notice it and instantly change your strategy to adapt to the situation. You can't really do that as a replica in beyblade Virtual. All it is is just Rush Launch , yada yada yada. It takes the pre existing data, but it can't create new strategies.

It actually did create new strategy's in the simulation. Things we hadn't seen before. Based on the beys capabilities it created certain scenarios. In fact it replicated Lucius The End's capabilities perfectly. All I'm saying is that Valtryek was capable of moving Lucius' lock which means it not outside Valt capability to do the same. Of course it's not as complex as the human brain. It would be impossible for it to be. But it can replicate the capabilities of beys very well.

It can make Valtryek hit Lucius for the lock to move. It does this because it needs the lock to move, and Valtryek is the ally bey that can do that. Making it the only way for an ally to make the lock move. However, can Valtryek actually do that? We don't know. Valtryek was just the only choice for that.
I like drum a lot, he’s a fun character
It can make a bey hit another one or go hit some other bey, but it can't make entirely new strategies. It can make a scenario where Valtryek hits Lucius, but it couldn't make a strategy Hyuga did that I explained before completely on its own. Its not capable of doing that stuff.
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:50 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:45 PM)Admiral W Wrote: It actually did create new strategy's in the simulation. Things we hadn't seen before. Based on the beys capabilities it created certain scenarios. In fact it replicated Lucius The End's capabilities perfectly. All I'm saying is that Valtryek was capable of moving Lucius' lock which means it not outside Valt capability to do the same. Of course it's not as complex as the human brain. It would be impossible for it to be. But it can replicate the capabilities of beys very well.

It can make Valtryek hit Lucius for the lock to move. It does this because it needs the lock to move, and Valtryek is the ally bey that can do that. Making it the only way for an ally to make the lock move. However, can Valtryek actually do that? We don't know. Valtryek was just the only choice for that.

Eclipse Force!!! 🤘🤘
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:50 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:45 PM)Admiral W Wrote: It actually did create new strategy's in the simulation. Things we hadn't seen before. Based on the beys capabilities it created certain scenarios. In fact it replicated Lucius The End's capabilities perfectly. All I'm saying is that Valtryek was capable of moving Lucius' lock which means it not outside Valt capability to do the same. Of course it's not as complex as the human brain. It would be impossible for it to be. But it can replicate the capabilities of beys very well.

It can make Valtryek hit Lucius for the lock to move. It does this because it needs the lock to move, and Valtryek is the ally bey that can do that. Making it the only way for an ally to make the lock move. However, can Valtryek actually do that? We don't know. Valtryek was just the only choice for that.

I don't think that strategy would have been possible if Valtryek didn't have the capability to do that. The computer probably would have went with a different strategy instead if Valtryek didn't have the ability to pull that off.
I liked the anime better to because I DONT KNOW HOW AIGA BEAT HADES WITH Z ACHILLES IN THE MANGA?!!?!
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:56 PM)TrustBEE Wrote: I liked the anime better to because I DONT KNOW HOW AIGA BEAT HADES WITH Z ACHILLES IN THE MANGA?!!?!

9 letters, plot armor.
Also I loved aiga losing and getting humiliated so many times once hearts came and watched and got jealous of valt getting stronger then him by being able to beat hearts instead of the weakkkkkkkk valt breaks aiga’s bey and teaches him a lesson
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:53 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:50 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: It can make Valtryek hit Lucius for the lock to move. It does this because it needs the lock to move, and Valtryek is the ally bey that can do that. Making it the only way for an ally to make the lock move. However, can Valtryek actually do that? We don't know. Valtryek was just the only choice for that.

I don't think that strategy would have been possible if Valtryek didn't have the capability to do that. The computer probably would have went with a different strategy instead if Valtryek didn't have the ability to pull that off.
Not necessarily. It has the data of strengths and all that, but if its just [bey] hit [bey] to unlock [ability] it can just do that. The algorithm doesn't consider if [bey] power level isn't [set number] than initiate [Action B].  Its not like it would be to much contradicting, and the other ally bey is the only bey that can do that, since it you want it timed, you can't just rely on having the opponent hit you at the exact moment. Still contradictory? Yes. All it does it make [bey] go hit [bey].
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:58 PM)Longinox Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:56 PM)TrustBEE Wrote: I liked the anime better to because I DONT KNOW HOW AIGA BEAT HADES WITH Z ACHILLES IN THE MANGA?!!?!

9 letters, plot armor.

U mean- 2 words? Wait is that right?
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:59 PM)TrustBEE Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:58 PM)Longinox Wrote: 9 letters, plot armor.

U mean- 2 words? Wait is that right?

Correction, 9 letters and 2 words.
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:58 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:53 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I don't think that strategy would have been possible if Valtryek didn't have the capability to do that. The computer probably would have went with a different strategy instead if Valtryek didn't have the ability to pull that off.
Not necessarily. It has the data of strengths and all that, but if its just [bey] hit [bey] to unlock [ability] it can just do that. The algorithm doesn't consider if [bey] power level isn't [set number] than initiate [Action B].  Its not like it would be to much contradicting, and the other ally bey is the only bey that can do that, since it you want it timed, you can't just rely on having the opponent hit you at the exact moment. Still contradictory? Yes. All it does it make [bey] go hit [bey].

I don't think that's necessarily true. It would be based on the physical capabilities of the beys and the knowledge it has about the bladers that would determine what strategy it would go with. All based on the available data to make it as accurate as possible.
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:56 PM)TrustBEE Wrote: I liked the anime better to because I DONT KNOW HOW AIGA BEAT HADES WITH Z ACHILLES IN THE MANGA?!!?!

It smashed it against the wall
Fillerrrrr that virtual battle would never happen
(Dec. 19, 2020  7:01 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:58 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: Not necessarily. It has the data of strengths and all that, but if its just [bey] hit [bey] to unlock [ability] it can just do that. The algorithm doesn't consider if [bey] power level isn't [set number] than initiate [Action B].  Its not like it would be to much contradicting, and the other ally bey is the only bey that can do that, since it you want it timed, you can't just rely on having the opponent hit you at the exact moment. Still contradictory? Yes. All it does it make [bey] go hit [bey].

I don't think that's necessarily true. It would be based on the physical capabilities of the beys and the knowledge it has about the bladers that would determine what strategy it would go with. All based on the available data to make it as accurate as possible.

That only goes so far. It can make assumptions, but if a bey where to get stronger in battle it wouldn't know how strong. It only has the data of the beys strength from the time is was recorded. It could just say [bey] speeds up to get enough power to unlock [ability]. It wouldn't be able to measure the exact statistics on how it grew.
(Dec. 19, 2020  7:03 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  6:56 PM)TrustBEE Wrote: I liked the anime better to because I DONT KNOW HOW AIGA BEAT HADES WITH Z ACHILLES IN THE MANGA?!!?!

It smashed it against the wall
  • Yea but how’d- hearts was not a threat in the manga.......valt was more of the threat to aiga and the fact that valt is already stronger than all of the super z generation Accept for aiga at the time kinda sucks, at least in the anime they all looked like they could beat valt with wonder Valkyrie 
(Dec. 19, 2020  7:05 PM)TrustBEE Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  7:03 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: It smashed it against the wall
  • Yea but how’d- hearts was not a threat in the manga.......valt was more of the threat to aiga and the fact that valt is already stronger than all of the super z generation Accept for aiga at the time kinda sucks, at least in the anime they all looked like they could beat valt with wonder Valkyrie 

Hyde was never initially meant to be a big bad boy giant threat. They just made him that way in the manga so they could get an extra arc.
(Dec. 19, 2020  7:06 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote:
(Dec. 19, 2020  7:05 PM)TrustBEE Wrote:
  • Yea but how’d- hearts was not a threat in the manga.......valt was more of the threat to aiga and the fact that valt is already stronger than all of the super z generation Accept for aiga at the time kinda sucks, at least in the anime they all looked like they could beat valt with wonder Valkyrie 

Hyde was never initially meant to be a big bad boy giant threat. They just made him that way in the manga so they could get an extra arc.

I know......well I just like the anime better!😋
Hearts would be a minor antagonist if that was the case