Now that all Beyblade series are seemingly in the same timeline, is it safe to say that Brooklyn, Yu and Free are all part of the same family tree? XD

im still mad ab how lost I am on the lore lol

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LocalW's new Burst God review inspired me to do a quick write up on my thoughts on each (JP) Burst season again

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Burst was way better than we give it credit for. It did a perfect job of setting up lots of fundamental aspects while keeping it interesting by using the hobby anime genre to its advantage. A lot of it seems basic on paper, but actually watching it is super fun. I'm also a big fan of how it progresses and sets up future plot points.

God was really good to be honest, but the low points are more noticeable than Burst's. At least half of the season has very poorly executed pacing that makes it feel like it drags on. The final act definitely kicks things up a notch, but not all these things are good. The core Red Eye plot line and how every major Blader is impacted by it in the tournament, is good, but everything else muddles it up. There was no reason for Free to leave BC Sol only to come back, like, the next episode, just a waste on time that muddies up a good plot line.

Chozetsu is a victim of biting of more than you can chew. There is just way to many characters here. The first few arcs still feel pretty good, but as time goes on you realize the series cannot juggle them all at once, and each side characters potential is snuffed out until its just Aiga, Phi, Hearts, and the returning cast. Phi and Hearts were alright, but I still think they are not compelling antagonists. They are very cool aesthetically, but nothing else about them interests me in the slightest. Also Aiga's Dark Resonance was an insane low point. What it does for Aiga's character is fine, but its impact of the rest of the cast (the fact that he can just beat everyone is battles now) is awful.

GT is low-key my personal favorite Burst series. Overall it feels like its not going for as much of an impact as God or Chozetsu in some aspects, but that also means it does its fundamentals very well, even better than Burst. The main cast is a blast to watch and character relationships and overall progression is a blast to watch. I understand that if you didn't click with any of the new characters GT wouldn't do much for you, but I think if you do, this series' consistently good plot and characters will leave an impact. Only major complaints is forgetting Pot (I understand not every Blader will be a main cast member, but come on, he's a member of the GT 3). Also I would have liked the writers to let Gwyn's character appear earlier, not because his characters felt rushed, he's amazing, but I think if he could be even better.

Sparking is the prime of example of the highest highs and lowest lows. I've neglected to mention is but Burst's visual quality steadily rose over time, and it peaked here in 2020. This series is a love letter to the entire Burst generation, and I feel like it somehow manages to do good by every single main cast member, except for the protagonists and antagonist. I actually like Lane alot, but he also had the Aiga problem early on, where him defeated others worked for his character but reflected poorly on everything else. Also the Asahi Brothers are pretty solid, not particularly good but not bad either, but good enough. But they could have actually been stand out if they just carried over their development from the manga, something that still infuriates me.

DB also feels way better in retrospect. As far as visuals go they definitely declined here, but not in as bad of a way as that should sound. They just went from amazing to good, not as great as Sparking but still awesome overall. Bell's character was a fun change of pace and didn't annoy me too much, but felt very repetitive. Again, I wish they character over hi development from the manga here. Everything else was actually pretty good though, but I'm sad that I didn't notice it while it was on air. As far as actual character writing goes there are ore compelling antagonists than Rashad, but the actions he takes are easily the most commanding, chaotic, and engaging in my opinion. Basara and Ilya also really impressed me. It felt pretty wild to see a simple but clean friend to rival pipeline executed so seamlessly, and they stood by it too. Nothing crazy on paper, but worked very well. Only big complaint is Pain, I don't think his needlessly took up space, his arc was fun, but I still don't think he needed to exist if he was going to disappear so quickly. Also, quick side note, the power scaling did feel a bit janky. It wasn't bad, pretty consistent over all, but needed more build up to make it feel consistent. Most of it is good (outside of some moments like Valkyrie breaking Belial out of nowhere) but I won't lie the raising of the power floor and ceiling felt very sudden as the series progressed, but the roles within that space felt consistent.

I don't feel like reviewing Quadsrike but shout out to it. Animation got way less consistent, ranging from good like DB to mediocre (a first for Burst), but writing was great, albeit a little slow paced at the start.

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In X, I would like to see Beyblades physically reflect on the user during battle. Something like Drum and Delta's flames during resonance at least. I know X doesn't have any supernatural elements right now, but they can just say the effects are virtually generated based on the battle, (presumably) just like how the Avatars work.

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I think Beyblade X would benefit from supernatural elements.
I know they're trying to make it more realistic and all, but so was Burst's 1st season and then with Lui's appearance it went into DBZ mode and it was cool.

I know this is kinda old, but what
happened to bell
in Beyblade QS. To be more exact Bell and Belial, I feel like they don’t interact which other anymore. Like Beyblade DB Belial had so much character, Belial would talk to Bell all the time. I feel like they had the best bond, Belial would even turn into an inflated balloon just to make bell snap out of a bad mood. The reason why I enjoy DB is because of they’re interaction's now it just feels plain and boring. But thats my thought of it

So, whatever happened to Zac the Sunshine in Beyblade Burst anyway? Such a profound charcter in S1 and then he just poofs and disappears.. shame, because he was really cool and fun presence overall.

In X, I would like to see Beyblades physically reflect on the user during battle. Something like Drum and Delta's flames during resonance at least. I know X doesn't have any supernatural elements right now, but they can just say the effects are virtually generated based on the battle, (presumably) just like how the Avatars work.

Beyblade x needs science fiction elements

In X, I would like to see Beyblades physically reflect on the user during battle. Something like Drum and Delta's flames during resonance at least. I know X doesn't have any supernatural elements right now, but they can just say the effects are virtually generated based on the battle, (presumably) just like how the Avatars work.

Beyblade x needs science fiction elements

Idk, X4 stadiums and their battles seem pretty Sci-Fi to me, given that the X4 avatars literally fight each other like bit beasts would.

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You know, it always bugged me that Aiger never apologized to Valt for breaking his bey in Turbo.

Why I think the structure of the X Tower actively works against Bird's development

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Despite losing, Bird is absolutely getting stronger, literally and as a person. This is due to other aspects of the game that go beyond the end result. This is cool conceptually, but I don't like the execution. When he gets stronger it feels like it has no weight other than being a vague idea. I think this is because the reason he gets stronger is because he 1. has the trait to evolve quickly and 2. is battling above his league (pun intended). The problem is that he can gain experience far beyond his level that gets him to new heights through losing, and losing means he can't climb up. But he does, due to being carried by the seasoned pro Ekusu and genius Multi.

This is essentially an infinite loop. Bird's on a new floor above his level, Bird loses and gains a lot of experience, to ascend to the next level his teammates win and carry him there. This means that Bird has to keep losing to get stronger but unless this loop breaks (it doesn't) he never gets a full chance to show the fruits of his labor in a real significant way by winning. This isn't a literal loop, if the others for some reason couldn't carry him they could just wait, challenge another team, and now Bird with the experience he's gained on that floor could show off his new power. But the pace of a monthly serializing year long season has to be pretty fast, so the manga never lingers on one spot for long. This should also be why it skips tons of floors at a time.

Why X's battles could run out of steam in the long run

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So far Beyblade X has stuck to a power system based on grounded aspects. So compared to the other series, there is no Resonance and the like, and you cannot directly control your Beyblade. This means that it really just has things like Launch types, Angles, Movement Patterns, and types/frequency of X Dashes. This is cool but there isn't much to expand upon because of how concrete these concepts are. Specific Beyblade gimmicks will bring mix ups into this by introducing a new factor, but every single battle will not introduce an all new Beyblade gimmick. I'm thinking that eventually under this system the same general best strategies would develop over time, just like a meta irl. Even in Season 1 Ekusu wins most of his battles by spamming a basic X Dash. Unless this structure gets shaken up I think in the future fights will end up stale.

Speculating about Part 2 of X (spoilers for Ch 17)

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- Tenka doesn't look responsive to the idea of joining Team Persona. Based on everything we know about her battling wise, she has no reason to decline, so this is probably due to an outside aspect. Perhaps she has obligations to the Shiraboshi Style school she can't shake.

- Already went over this but I hope we get some more introspective Bird in the manga soon. It's been over a year and he has a 0% win rate, so I feel like for the average reader the manga should probably look deeper into how that would affect his character by now. He's having fun but that doesn't erase the losses because of how much they matter for a competitive player. Especially since X has 3 man teams, the Tenka joining could bring up the concept of him getting replaced. I'm assuming they can just add a sub spot to the team MFB style but as long as the concept of his worth and growth is looked into idc about the means that much.

- The Shining Dragon being teased in the anime has me hyped. I'm assuming it's an avatar but it's also fun to think about the other possibilities. Definitely getting this idea from Duel Masters but what if this is the first Bey Spirit? As in, the Avatars are computer generated visuals but the dragon is a real living creature. The juxtaposition between the two once a Bey Spirit would first hypothetically be introduced would be cool. The idea is supernatural which would be a first, but given that Evil Organization stuff X might be leaning in a less grounded direction now. Whether what Ginro said was fully true or not isn't elaborated on, but we know it can't be fully false. Men in black suits showed up to his house using force, and they're specifically using Beyblades. So there is some devious Beyblade Organization out there.

Comment on the adaption of X going forward (spoilers for Ep 52)

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We now know X is significantly changing battle results thanks to Bird's latest fights. He didn't win, but finally getting 2 points is still a significant advancement plot wise that the manga does not have. The X anime was previously doing a pretty by the books adaption, simply expanding on the manga, adding but not subtracting. Burst was doing this as well until around halfway into Chozetsu, then things got more drastically changed (leading to very good and very middling results). Since the X team is also the Burst team, I wonder if they adjusted to less changes for the X anime compared to previous seasons due to backlash, but are now going back into the previous style (at least leaning into it) due to entirely new backlash. Me personally, I don't like it, I think giving concrete points to Bird gives more impact to his characters journey. I talked about the Bird cycle in the first thought, and while this doesn't break it, it's getting pretty close.

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You know, it always bugged me that Aiger never apologized to Valt for breaking his bey in Turbo.

I don't think anyone has apologized for breaking beys in the burst, it's like a heat of the moment sort of thing. Regardless, Aiger and Valt were cool with each other for the rest of the series so I guess Valt forgave him.

You know, it always bugged me that Aiger never apologized to Valt for breaking his bey in Turbo.

I don't think anyone has apologized for breaking beys in the burst, it's like a heat of the moment sort of thing. Regardless, Aiger and Valt were cool with each other for the rest of the series so I guess Valt forgave him.

Exactly.

Imo Chrome lowkey carried Season 1 towards the end. I like how the dude was crashing out against Kamen X, that's the type of ignorance I like to see in Beyblade.

Imo Chrome lowkey carried Season 1 towards the end.  I like how the dude was crashing out against Kamen X, that's the type of ignorance I like to see in Beyblade.

Now that I think about it, it’s kinda crazy that Kamen X hasn’t given up a single point in the series. Ruins the stakes pretty badly if I do say so myself.

I think Chrome's actions on screen are extremely entertaining, buy his  character lacks foundation. Him entirely centering his whole life around a teammate because he lost once is a little too insane to me. If they established him having some kind of problem or complex before Ekusu joined, that would solve the problem.

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Ekusu falls into the unbeatable archetype, but I feel like that part of his character is 50/50. If a character has foundations to just be genuinely better than others I have no problem with them being OP. Ekusu has been a well established top level pro for some significant amount of time, and with him also being the strongest member of the strongest team I have no problem here.

But for this status to stay I would like each win to be consistently interesting, because if they win the same way for every match it gets boring. A lot of Ekusu's strategies end up just being doing another X Dash (and so on), or just X Dashing harder. Now this can be cool with added context, like his unwavering strategy vs KIng, speed contest vs Burn, and the entire plot leading up to his match with Chrome. But outside of that, for all of the average matches, I couldn't care less for them.

Though an important part of this archetype is that it's not literal. It's more so being the definitive power ceiling for a significant period of time. The time will come when this ceiling is broken to establish an even stronger threat. So he will lose some time in the future, it's not like losing is literally never on the table. This is better than Bird because for him winning is literally never on the table, so I don't think the average person has as much of a problem with it compared to over things.

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Now that the Beyblade Burst series is over, how many of you all enjoyed the series? Have a favorite season and character?

Burst was pretty good overall, not too big a fan of the later seasons but I still like them. Chozetsu/Turbo would be my favorite season and Aiga would be my favorite character.

ngl I kinda just feel that aiga was a kid who just shouted but valt actually trained. but my favourite is either shu or free

Wrong place, but since I'm here, I wonder how the X Manga will weave in Zooganic and Yggdrasil. They missed King and Burn's UX debuts, and now they have an obligatory new bey debut to deal with every month.

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Burst was pretty good overall, not too big a fan of the later seasons but I still like them. Chozetsu/Turbo would be my favorite season and Aiga would be my favorite character.

ngl I kinda just feel that aiga was a kid who just shouted but valt actually trained. but my favourite is either shu or free

Aiga actually trained too, constantly. If you want an example of someone that literally just screamed check out Lane.

Imo Chrome lowkey carried Season 1 towards the end.  I like how the dude was crashing out against Kamen X, that's the type of ignorance I like to see in Beyblade.

Now that I think about it, it’s kinda crazy that Kamen X hasn’t given up a single point in the series. Ruins the stakes pretty badly if I do say so myself.

Ngl I kinda agree with this.

ngl I kinda just feel that aiga was a kid who just shouted but valt actually trained. but my favourite is either shu or free

Aiga actually trained too, constantly. If you want an example of someone that literally just screamed check out Lane.

Im not denying the fact that Aoga trained but it was nothimg compared to valt who in the manga acctually did some insane things like winning a battle with a 50 kg wheel on his back and not realisising that it was even on his back. And I guess Aiga either has plot armor or natural talent compared to Valts inhuman efforts.

Aiga actually trained too, constantly. If you want an example of someone that literally just screamed check out Lane.

Im not denying the fact that Aoga trained but it was nothimg compared to valt who in the manga acctually did some insane things like winning a battle with a 50 kg wheel on his back and not realisising that it was even on his back. And I guess Aiga either has plot armor or natural talent compared to Valts inhuman efforts.

Aiga's been described as a natural talent around the time of his debut. Additionally, Aiga was a metal worker before he started beyblading, and metal working is a profession that requires alot of strength and that's in addition to his insane athleticism and endurance. He demonstrated these qualities at the start of his season as we saw him using the forest and the high trees he swang from as a jungle gym, something that Valt was shown struggling with as opposed to Aiga. Valt is obviously still stronger and the number 1 blader in the world and all that but it was clear from his start that Aiga was going to be a strong blader with respectable talent.

Thoughts about the future of X from this point given that Part 2 has now really kicked off

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We know Multi is fighting Karura next chapter, and should realistically beat her as a debut for her new Knight Helm. I'm assuming she'll get Bird's star back with her win. Also, Ghost Circle debuts, so might as well follow up with fighting the next member of Karura's team, the owner of Ghost, Rei. Ekusu ran off somewhere but I'm sure he'll return somehow, and then fight (and surely defeat) Rei. While it hasn't been explicitly stated in the manga, Karura's special move name Crimson Maneuver is still a direct reference to Burn. Because of this I assume she still has a connection to him here. I assume he'll be brought up, but idk in what capacity.

This fight is important for Tenka since it's a gauge of Team Persona's power. From this perspective Bird would be the only weak link here, so I'm thinking that she could starts training him, since she is an instructor after all. Bird will hopefully have a journey to his first win this season, so this is a good idea for it. At the moment this is, in my opinion, the most convenient and reasonable answer for him. It also would address his biggest challenge, the X Tower. He's a rookie thrown into the pro world but cannot acclimate to each level. This is because, thanks to his teammates, he keeps climbing at a beyond extraordinary rate. So a 1 on 1 tutor that helps him grow step by step outside of the tower climb would be ideal.

Impact Dragoon also debuts, but with 2 battles in December I'd push its proper debut to January, alongside whatever is in that month's booster. I still haven't seen a source for the Chrome render, so I won't cover that aspect of his character, though I'm sure he's returning in some capacity. I hope he fights either King or Burn though, since those 2 haven't had time for a battle yet (maybe Burn as a follow up to the idea of him being brought up previously). He has a rivalry with Ekusu specifically, but fighting him would most likely provide some resolution for him. For him to have the most amount of screen time possible, this specific fight will probably be prolonged to later.

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Okay- just saying about the whole Aiga versus Valt discussion- there's no problem with Aiga being powerful considering his quick thinking and talents his gotten for metal work and sharpness considering he was raised on a farm and is known to already be very athletic. The PROBLEM stems from Anime Aiga refusing to use ANY OF THIS past the various moments in the luinor cup or battleship cruise Arc cuz he just later goes on to either:
1) Use repetitive basic strategies that don't make Aiga seem very creative and-
2) He overpowers many powerful rivals with resonance or dark resonance alone.
Making his wins unearned because he didn't even put any thought behind them unlike Valt who has always been written very consistently to have a in unique attack strategy in mind with Valkyrie.
It's not the same with Manga Aiga who's always used unique strategies to overcome powerful adversaries to prove how exceptionally smart and strong the kid is.