[Product]  BB-118 Phantom Orion B:D

I was also thinking on grip with Scythe and BGrin.

Hopefully Scythe's round shape doesn't destroy its ability.
(Aug. 10, 2011  7:03 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote: Yes, I'm just hoping Left Spin Attackers won't have to much of a problem with it.

I think right spin attack would be better. It would take away any spin stealing. Also, heart posted in the VariAres discussion topic about left spin seeming to just brisk by right spin. I think that with bearings this might happen a lot.

Which is a good thing for B:D. But not good, and not necessarily a bad thing for left spin attack.
Most likely. It seems tip is insanely thin, so I wonder if we'd get better defense once the thing wears down?
(Aug. 10, 2011  7:31 PM)Shabalabadoo Wrote:
(Aug. 10, 2011  7:03 PM)BeyBladestation Wrote: Yes, I'm just hoping Left Spin Attackers won't have to much of a problem with it.

I think right spin attack would be better. It would take away any spin stealing. Also, heart posted in the VariAres discussion topic about left spin seeming to just brisk by right spin. I think that with bearings this might happen a lot.

Which is a good thing for BGrin. But not good, and not necessarily a bad thing for left spin attack.
I've been saying Right Spin was better since the last page, but Deikailo and Pcyborg had a point in BGrin's factors.
"ControL_ has been discussing on VariAres capability of Left Spin. I'm trying to help him as well, we are seeing Left Spin is getting less and more worse results then Right Spin in many occasions. Therefore, the surface speed would be of all matter rather than spin velocity. The height on BGrin and the smooth play on it means Left Spin isn't always an option." -me

Ya, I was saying Right Spin was better.
But if B:D is used in Left spin, wouldn't you use Left Spin attack to get a decent amount of KOs? (Gravity. Maybe Variares, though tests say no.)
Yes but why would B:D be used with a left spin wheel when that enables the best attack types to take it down?
Right spin or variable spin wheels are most likely the way to go.
That's why temporal.

It would be just taking away the purpose of it: Solo.
MLD and B:D is a combo we've been discussing for a while, it may end up very good because of the rubber on L-Drago 2.
Just thought I'd post this, not necessarily giving away B:D's height, but I think it might be 145.
I think it's 145.
Maybe. But I'd actually prefer 125WD height. Eh, I can see this toppling 230 quite easily.
Ok, let's compare:
Hmm... I'm thinking maybe 125 now.
It looks more like a 135 now...

But nonetheless, all of them would be nice.
Made a resized version, comparing them side by side:
[Image: 21212j.jpg]
That looks better, but it's not scale2scale, so we can't be sure.
Wow, there is so much speculation, a few of you should probably have been warned. It was intelligent discussion, but seriously, we have to wait before we actually get Phantom Orion and test it before we even talk about its effect on the metagame like that, especially what could counter it when you have no real idea how it will perform ...

For this reason, even if there is a lot of information on this Beyblade already, I have to close this topic. Fifteen pages in two days is really abnormal for a Beyblade that has never been tried.
The official pictures of the parts :
[Image: metalwheel4d_phantom.jpg]
Phantom has a PC Core 'fused' with the metal as well ? VariAres has mechanisms inside of it, but from what we know Phantom has none, so there is no reason to have plastic.
EDIT : The Metal Wheel and Clear Wheel have a very simple mode change : you rotate the Clear Wheel from Stamina Mode to Attack Mode.

[Image: bottom4d_bd_img.jpg]
B:D officially stands for Bearing Drive.
(Sep. 12, 2011  4:36 PM)Kai-V Wrote: The official pictures of the parts :
[Image: metalwheel4d_phantom.jpg]
Phantom has a PC Core 'fused' with the metal as well ? VariAres has mechanisms inside of it, but from what we know Phantom has none, so there is no reason to have plastic.

[Image: bottom4d_bd_img.jpg]
BGrin officially stands for Bearing Drive.

YES !
thanks Kai-V
should be getting this next month...hopefully
(Sep. 12, 2011  4:36 PM)Kai-V Wrote: The official pictures of the parts :
[Image: metalwheel4d_phantom.jpg]
Phantom has a PC Core 'fused' with the metal as well ? VariAres has mechanisms inside of it, but from what we know Phantom has none, so there is no reason to have plastic.
EDIT : The Metal Wheel and Clear Wheel have a very simple mode change : you rotate the Clear Wheel from Stamina Mode to Attack Mode.

[Image: bottom4d_bd_img.jpg]
BGrin officially stands for Bearing Drive.
SEE!!!! I knew that dang face had something to do with it!!!!!!Thanks Kai-V
also this s pointless speculation but im guessing phantom can only be used with orion vice versa
(Sep. 12, 2011  4:36 PM)Kai-V Wrote: The official pictures of the parts :
[Image: metalwheel4d_phantom.jpg]
Phantom has a PC Core 'fused' with the metal as well ? VariAres has mechanisms inside of it, but from what we know Phantom has none, so there is no reason to have plastic.
EDIT : The Metal Wheel and Clear Wheel have a very simple mode change : you rotate the Clear Wheel from Stamina Mode to Attack Mode.

[Image: bottom4d_bd_img.jpg]
BGrin officially stands for Bearing Drive.

amazazing
Thanks for teh photos.
(Sep. 12, 2011  4:36 PM)Kai-V Wrote: The official pictures of the parts :
[Image: metalwheel4d_phantom.jpg]
Phantom has a PC Core 'fused' with the metal as well ? VariAres has mechanisms inside of it, but from what we know Phantom has none, so there is no reason to have plastic.
EDIT : The Metal Wheel and Clear Wheel have a very simple mode change : you rotate the Clear Wheel from Stamina Mode to Attack Mode.

[Image: bottom4d_bd_img.jpg]
BGrin officially stands for Bearing Drive.

Thanks Kai-V, can't wait to see unboxings of this.
Lol oh boy, can't wait until this is released so there can be a topic about how it should be banned too. But yeah, cool to finally have one of these, I was expecting one.
Very nice, though I certainly hope that this thread won't be closed again due to speculation.
Thanks Kai-V
Phantom looks like a Highly decorated burn wheel at one point for me. Lol.
(Sep. 12, 2011  9:20 PM)BeyCenter Wrote: Thanks Kai-V
Orion looks like a Highly decorated burn wheel at one point for me. Lol.

Orion is a Clear Wheel.
Ya, Sorry, I meant Phantom of course :\
I would love to see how great it does do against basalt, or how well it does compared to scythe.