[Product]  B-177 Booster Jet Wyvern.Ar.Js 1D

(Jan. 15, 2021  2:22 AM)Longinox Wrote:
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:21 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: But no way Wyvern isn't gonna lose that battle against Helios, Hyperion, Achilles, Ragnaruk and Dragon.

It's a last man standing match now?

Probally?
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:20 AM)Needforspeed Wrote:
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:18 AM)Longinox Wrote: Then Wakiya's gonna end up like Count Nightfell.
There are many characters that died out/left out after 1 episode

Going back to the topic tbh I don't really know if i like this wyvren or not there's too much clear parts in the layer.

I'm with you on wyvern at first i was really hype about it but now I'm 50/50 of course we can't judge until it's out yet and it is kind of a new way to make wyvern free spin gimmick work differently the ratchet gimmick into a ring is interesting though I'll give than that.
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:28 AM)God Dragruler Wrote:
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:20 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: There are many characters that died out/left out after 1 episode

Going back to the topic tbh I don't really know if i like this wyvren or not there's too much clear parts in the layer.

I'm with you on wyvern at first i was really hype about it but now I'm 50/50 of course we can't judge until it's out yet and it is kind of a new way to make wyvern free spin gimmick work differently the ratchet gimmick into a ring is interesting though I'll give than that.

Maybe if it was the opposite (free spin against left and stationary against right) I would like it better but atm my opinion of it has kind of faltered.
In conclusion, Jet Wyvern
In left, rubber absorbing means defence
In right, free spinning means defence
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:44 AM)Dasmind Wrote: In conclusion, Jet Wyvern
In left, rubber absorbing means defence
In right, free spinning means defence

Wait, it has rubber? I thought it was confirmed to have no rubber.
(Jan. 15, 2021  3:30 AM)SupaDav03 Wrote:
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:44 AM)Dasmind Wrote: In conclusion, Jet Wyvern
In left, rubber absorbing means defence
In right, free spinning means defence

Wait, it has rubber? I thought it was confirmed to have no rubber.
Yea I've check many sites and I couldn't find anything stating this will have rubber the only thing that might be related to rubber is the absorption thing
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:04 AM)originalzankye Wrote: So they just did a blog post here: https://twitter.com/beyblade_info/status...5995454464

They basically go in detail with Wyvern's gimmick

I used google translate with this but yeah no rubber lol

Jet Wyvern. Ar.Js 1D is born! !!

The legendary defensive Wyvern is now in the long-awaited Sparking Bay! !!
Equipped with a novel gimmick that changes performance according to the rotation of the opponent! !!

If you are hit by a clockwise rotation, the blade will rotate freely! !!
Only the blade spins around and parries the attack, protecting Tokoton! !!
When hit by a counterclockwise rotation, the blade does not move and gets caught in the opponent! !!
Therefore, it absorbs the rotation of the other party and eats the counter! !!

According to Twitter's translation,

Today is the release date of the February issue of the monthly CoroCoro Comic! The legendary defensive Wyvern is now a long-awaited spark! Equipped with a novel gimmick that changes performance according to the rotation of the opponent! !! Jet Wyvern. Ar.Js 1D is born! !! In addition, Korokoro Car-kun challenges to remodel the fun! Introducing 4 unique bays! → https: // beyblade.jp/news/3082/

So it sounds like they're doing something with 4 new beys? And "challenges to remodel"... could it mean a new customize set?
(Jan. 15, 2021  3:30 AM)SupaDav03 Wrote:
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:44 AM)Dasmind Wrote: In conclusion, Jet Wyvern
In left, rubber absorbing means defence
In right, free spinning means defence

Wait, it has rubber? I thought it was confirmed to have no rubber.

I always thought it had rubber. Looking at the HD Pics I saw that the free spin blades have rubber at the edges. Also the official promo video of the bey seems to show rubber
(Jan. 15, 2021  3:45 AM)BladerGem Wrote:
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:04 AM)originalzankye Wrote: So they just did a blog post here: https://twitter.com/beyblade_info/status...5995454464

They basically go in detail with Wyvern's gimmick

I used google translate with this but yeah no rubber lol

Jet Wyvern. Ar.Js 1D is born! !!

The legendary defensive Wyvern is now in the long-awaited Sparking Bay! !!
Equipped with a novel gimmick that changes performance according to the rotation of the opponent! !!

If you are hit by a clockwise rotation, the blade will rotate freely! !!
Only the blade spins around and parries the attack, protecting Tokoton! !!
When hit by a counterclockwise rotation, the blade does not move and gets caught in the opponent! !!
Therefore, it absorbs the rotation of the other party and eats the counter! !!

According to Twitter's translation,

Today is the release date of the February issue of the monthly CoroCoro Comic! The legendary defensive Wyvern is now a long-awaited spark! Equipped with a novel gimmick that changes performance according to the rotation of the opponent! !! Jet Wyvern. Ar.Js 1D is born! !! In addition, Korokoro Car-kun challenges to remodel the fun! Introducing 4 unique bays! → https: // beyblade.jp/news/3082/

So it sounds like they're doing something with 4 new beys? And "challenges to remodel"... could it mean a new customize set?

It's basically a combo guide, where they ask the readers to make certain combos. One was like super heavy, one was really tall, and other odd combos they gave in the CoroCoro.
(Jan. 15, 2021  3:45 AM)BladerGem Wrote:
(Jan. 15, 2021  2:04 AM)originalzankye Wrote: So they just did a blog post here: https://twitter.com/beyblade_info/status...5995454464

They basically go in detail with Wyvern's gimmick

I used google translate with this but yeah no rubber lol

Jet Wyvern. Ar.Js 1D is born! !!

The legendary defensive Wyvern is now in the long-awaited Sparking Bay! !!
Equipped with a novel gimmick that changes performance according to the rotation of the opponent! !!

If you are hit by a clockwise rotation, the blade will rotate freely! !!
Only the blade spins around and parries the attack, protecting Tokoton! !!
When hit by a counterclockwise rotation, the blade does not move and gets caught in the opponent! !!
Therefore, it absorbs the rotation of the other party and eats the counter! !!

According to Twitter's translation,

Today is the release date of the February issue of the monthly CoroCoro Comic! The legendary defensive Wyvern is now a long-awaited spark! Equipped with a novel gimmick that changes performance according to the rotation of the opponent! !! Jet Wyvern. Ar.Js 1D is born! !! In addition, Korokoro Car-kun challenges to remodel the fun! Introducing 4 unique bays! → https: // beyblade.jp/news/3082/

So it sounds like they're doing something with 4 new beys? And "challenges to remodel"... could it mean a new customize set?

The comic usually gives random combos for people to try out, nothing special but they mention it so people can try it out
(Jan. 15, 2021  3:55 AM)originalzankye Wrote:
(Jan. 15, 2021  3:45 AM)BladerGem Wrote: According to Twitter's translation,

Today is the release date of the February issue of the monthly CoroCoro Comic! The legendary defensive Wyvern is now a long-awaited spark! Equipped with a novel gimmick that changes performance according to the rotation of the opponent! !! Jet Wyvern. Ar.Js 1D is born! !! In addition, Korokoro Car-kun challenges to remodel the fun! Introducing 4 unique bays! → https: // beyblade.jp/news/3082/

So it sounds like they're doing something with 4 new beys? And "challenges to remodel"... could it mean a new customize set?

The comic usually gives random combos for people to try out, nothing special but they mention it so people can try it out

Ok after looking at this translation, I'm a bit bummed that it's not gonna be like Tornado Wyvern and deceive Left spin opponents, but I really hope Gimmick ain't like ratchet, if it's smooth then great! If not, big bummer.
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So we get the part info I'm now pretty sure it says the outer blade is rubber-mounted and rotates freely but someone has to confirm, the tip also in the latter half of the battle can have its outer ring freely spin
Im digging that 1D even tho I am tired of seeing it. Just looks interesting.
So the driver is indeed sharp and have a free spin ring
Js Driver has a Free Spinning component!

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

Jet ring does indeed have rubber.

Wyvern shaping up to be a fantastic release!
Yes new translation kinda put me at ease, right spin Fafnir, right spin Tact-like defence
HERE WE COME.
this is solely based on the info they gave, if the spinning is that good, if not the rubber will nerf defence
(Jan. 15, 2021  8:11 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Het wyvren parts
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Just to add, these are the descriptions from this link. Obviously, I used Google Translate so it's not completely accurate but Jet definitely does have rubber and the Jet Driver is a sharp tip (with a free-spinning ring, of course).

The Jet Ring"A defensive type right-handed rotating ring in which the outer peripheral blade equipped with rubber rotates freely in the direction that nullifies the opponent's attack and impact, and is fixed in the opposite direction to absorb rotation."

The Just Driver - "A defensive driver with a sharp and thin shaft that quickly takes the center of the stadium and continues to protect it, and the outer ring rotates freely in the latter half of the battle."

I get the gimmick for the Just Driver, but in my opinion it feels like a glorified Stamina-Type Driver just based on the description of the gimmick haha.
(Jan. 14, 2021  3:15 AM)Jinbee Wrote: I might be jumping into the most hasty conclusions but the description makes it sound like the Just driver changes form during battle. Like it starts off with the finer tip, before the ring around it drops down to increase defense in the second half. Think a bigger Guard driver, but the ring dropping down mid battle. Again, this is very out there, but it sounds that way.

Alright so based on the driver description on the site, I was right about the driver having some kind of auto change gimmick, but I was totally off about the actual change gimmick. The one I was thinking was "Ring starts higher up and goes down mid battle for more grip", but it's actually "Ring starts off stationary and goes free spinning mid battle". It's a super cool gimmick, and... 

HEY! I just realized that this is the first Burst season to have more than 3 new defensive type drivers (that isn't a metal or dash variant). Single Layers had Defense, Massive and Needle. Dual Layer had Press, Orbit and Bite. God Layer had Loop, Atomic and Guard. Chouzetsu had Yard, Friction and Quest. Gachi had Keep and Hybrid (actually it's technically four if we count Yard/Orbit Metal). Sparking has Universe, Mobius, Drift and Just (Five if we count High Defense).
Aren't we getting a tt and corocoro video about Wyvern later today?
(Jan. 15, 2021  9:07 AM)Lego bey god Wrote: Aren't we getting a tt and corocoro video about Wyvern later today?
Probably tomorrow because if it today it shouldve dropped with the episode 1 hour ago
Alright so even the website confirms it has rubber on it meaning it was just another situation like we had with the Lord base where it isn’t confirmed to have rubber until a decade later. It has defensive spin steal against lefts and tornado defense against rights, wow that makes the concept a whole lot cooler and it definitely puts my hype for this release back on the high end. The Just driver has been nailed by just about everyone else but I’ll give my say in it anyways. I think it’s a fun little gimmick that would keep the bey upright and strong during the initial moments of the battle and then let it flow freely during the crucial moments, that’s creating thinking! As for the concept, I would say that a sharp tip with a guard definitely passes as a defensive driver to me.
Am I missing anything here or something?

Wouldn't having free-spinning contact points that are rubber two things that go against what they're supposed to do?
(Jan. 15, 2021  12:34 PM)Shido-kun Wrote: Am I missing anything here or something?

Wouldn't having free-spinning contact points that are rubber two things that go against what they're supposed to do?
Jet is only free spin against right spin against left spin it would technically be an equalizer since it can't free sin against left spin
(Jan. 15, 2021  12:34 PM)Shido-kun Wrote: Am I missing anything here or something?

Wouldn't having free-spinning contact points that are rubber two things that go against what they're supposed to do?

Theoretically they would go against each other but free spin has priority over rubber grip so the free spin gimmick would ultimately work in right spin. As for left, it would spin steal instead since the rubber is no longer being negated by the free spin.