You know the drill...

Attack:
MF-H-Basalt-Kerbecs-TH170WF
MF-Meteo-LDrago-CH120XF
L Drago Destroy CH120RF
MF Fang Leone C145RF
MF Beat 85RF
MF L Drago Destroy 85RF
MF-H Beat Lynx S130/R145MF/RF
MF Blitz Unicorno(Assault attack mode) 85/CH120/GB145/R145 RF/R2F
MF Blitz Unicorno (Barrage Attack mode) GB145/AD145/R145 MF

Defense:
MF-H-Gravity-Perseus-BD145CS

Stamina
Scythe BD145EDS.

With all the commotion and controversy over Basalt, Dan was kind enough to perform some tests and provide comparative results.
Basalt Testing

Basalt 145WD

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Basalt 145WD vs. Earth AD145WD

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Basalt 145WD win rate: 0/20
Earth AD145WD win rate: 20/20 (20 OS)

Basalt 145WD vs. MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145WD

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Basalt 145WD win rate: 20/20 (19 OS, 1 KO)
MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145WD win rate: 0/20

Basalt 145WD vs. MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS

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Basalt 145WD win rate: 14/20 (14 OS)
MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS win rate: 6/20 (6 KO)

Basalt 145WD vs. MF Lightning LDrago CH120RF

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Basalt 145WD win rate: 1/20 (1 OS)
MF Lightning LDrago CH120RF win rate: 19/20 (19 KO)

Basalt 145WD vs. MF Rock Leone CH120RF

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Basalt 145WD win rate: 0/20
MF Rock Leone CH120RF win rate: 20/20 (20 KO)

So I then moved on to more prominent combinations involving Basalt at tested them against stamina related customs and even attack:

Basalt Kerbecs 230CS

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MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS vs. MF Lightning LDrago CH120RF

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MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS win rate: 0/10
MF Lightning LDrago CH120RF win rate: 10/10 (10 KO)

The only word(s) I could come up with to summarize this match: LMFAO.

MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS vs. Earth Bull AD145WD

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MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS win rate: 10/10 (10 OS)
Earth Bull AD145WD win rate: 0/10

The placement of Basalts hits on Earth killed it in the end. Literally, Earth was smacking it but at the end Basalt pummeled it downwards.

Tried to add weight and a bit more movement:

MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS vs. MF-H Earth Bull BD145CS

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MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS win rate: 10/10 (10 OS)
MF-H Earth Bull BD145CS win rate: 0/10

Completely futile. This is honestly the only Basalt combo I see which dominates stamina.

I then tried right spin attack and hit two birds with one stone by testing out Gravity BD145RF since the italians think so highly of it. Obviously left spin would have been better.

MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS vs. MF-H Gravity Perseus BD145RF (Right-spin, Counter)

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MF-H Basalt Kerbecs 230CS win rate: 10/10 (10 OS)
MF-H Gravity Perseus BD145RF win rate: 0/10

MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS

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MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS vs. MF-H Earth Bull AD145WD

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MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145C win rate: 0/20
MF-H Earth AD145WD win rate: 20/20 (20 OS)

Earth rotated around Basalt, causing it as usual, to tilt toward the opponent bey therefore managing to hit BD145 and completely neuter Basalt.

MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS vs. MF-H Earth Bull 100WD

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MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS win rate: 0/20
MF-H Earth Bull 100WD win rate: 20/20 (20 OS)

I was actually thinking Kei would use Basalt BD145CS against me awhile back, so I used a LTSC thinking I would just mutilate it. The damn guy goes and mindgames me: picks the only bey I think he'd never use because of the chance I'd use an attacker. lol he used Basalt 230CS, I used Basalt 100WD and I got so smacked lmfao. Okay, now for some spin-stealing/equalizing/sucks-to-your-basalt:

MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS vs. Meteo LDrago 100WD

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MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS win rate: 0/20
Meteo LDrago 100WD win rate: 20/20 (20 OS)

The wall is walled by a pebble. (height difference, for those of you who go 1 mile a year)

Now I decided to test a rather well-known MLD combination against Basalt:

MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS vs. Meteo LDrago ED145WD

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MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS win rate: 2/20 (2 KO)
Meteo LDrago ED145WD win rate: 18/20 (18 OS)

Yeah, at that height Basalt had the chance to push MLD out. I then decided to weak launch and that threat was long gone.

Comparative Earth Testing

Earth Bull AD145WD/SD

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Earth Bull AD145WD vs. MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145WD

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Earth Bull AD145WD win rate: 0/20
MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145WD win rate: 20/20 (20 OS)
I realized that Earth couldn't win because it didn't produce enough recoil to destabilize WD which is essentially why Basalt wins, so I smacked on a tad worn SD to provide some good movement:

Earth Bull AD145SD vs. MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145WD

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Earth Bull AD145SD win rate: 20/20 (18 OS, 2 KO)
MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145WD win rate: 0/20
(Albeit 5 draws.)

Earth Bull AD145SD vs. MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS

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Earth Bull AD145SD win rate: 20/20 (20 OS)
MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS win rate: 0/20
Not even funny, it was ridiculously easy and all were relatively quick matches. I thought perhaps putting WD would also be a good idea:

Earth Bull AD145WD vs. MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS

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Earth Bull AD145WD win rate: 20/20 (20 OS)
MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS win rate: 0/20

Earth Bull AD145WD vs. MF Lightning LDrago CH120RF

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Earth Bull AD145WD win rate: 0/20
MF Lightning LDrago CH120RF win rate: 20/20 (20 KO)

Earth Bull AD145WD vs. MF Rock Leone CH120RF

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Earth Bull AD145WD win rate: 2/20 (2 OS)
MF Rock Leone CH120RF win rate: 18/20 (18 KO)

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It's [MF] Quetzalcoatl CH120CS. Also, you could've just wrote RS/WB/B/WD. You also forgot CH120 for defense.

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Should the combos such as (MF) pegasis 145RF and and the several leone combos be on here?

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Like aforementioned, it's MF Quetz CH120CS.

Also, add MF Lightning L Drago 90RF and Ray 90/100RF.

There's no need for:

MF-H Earth Bull GB145/ED145/R145/C145 RS
MF-H Earth Bull GB145/ED145/R145/C145 WB (Due to the fact that MF-H isn't considered top tier officially)

Just say something like:

Defence: MF-H + current staple defence customs
Current staple customs + RS

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Should the combos such as (MF) pegasis 145RF and and the several leone combos be on here?

Yes.

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It's [MF] Quetzalcoatl CH120CS. Also, you could've just wrote RS/WB/B/WD. You also forgot CH120 for defense.

done.

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To be honest, this thread is really quite pointless unless it's stickied or added to the main topic.

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Haha i meant Shouldn't they because i was suggesting they should be here

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To be honest, this thread is really quite pointless unless it's stickied or added to the main topic.

yah hopefully it gets stickied...

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There shouldn't be a slash there.

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You forgot got that slash

No, that slash is not needed, since the slashes are seperating the different tracks.

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oops sorry i get thrown off when i see a bunch of slashes then one disappears. but shouldn't B be included in the defense bottom list?

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Any stamina combo's we know of that has potential?

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Any stamina combo's we know of that has potential?

Well, Bakushin beat Burn in testing, although it lost to Earth.

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Any stamina combo's we know of that has potential?

Well, Bakushin beat Burn in testing, although it lost to Earth.

meh it's empty so i guess ill add it. thnx daegor.

EDIT: man there's a lot of attack types... i guess that's everyone's focus.

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What of Ozzy's infamous Lightning L Drago 100WD for stamina? Someone else tested it out and found it great.

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I think the combo in this vid should be added, except Thermal should be replaced with Burn, I guess. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnw0ANrifKw

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I think the combo in this vid should be added, except Thermal should be replaced with Burn, I guess. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnw0ANrifKw

We should find out what mold of Virgo that is before drawing any conclusions. If that is infact a 4 minute mold I think we definitely need to keep thermal top tier. I can't believe how easily it was beating Virgo there at the end.

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What of Ozzy's infamous Lightning L Drago 100WD for stamina?

No.

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What of Ozzy's infamous Lightning L Drago 100WD for stamina?

No.

The only reason I would agree witht his is simply because LL Drago 100WD is not good for stamina. The key to this combo is spin stealing. Other than that, it should be considered for top-tier as well as Kei's combo but under another sub-type. Maybe a spin-stealer section or destabilizers.

What of Ozzy's infamous Lightning L Drago 100WD for stamina?

No.

The only reason I would agree witht his is simply because LL Drago 100WD is not good for stamina. The key to this combo is spin stealing. Other than that, it should be considered for top-tier as well as Kei's combo but under another sub-type. Maybe a spin-stealer section or destabilizers.

I agree with Ozzy, a sub section for spin stealer and destabilizer combos should be added while also including MF Flame Cancer 100SF in the destabilizer section.

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What about MF Lightning L Drago CH120RF?

It is top-tier already

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Hah, awesome! the thread was made.

=P Looking pretty good.

Although stamina seems lacking. Not that it really needs more additions.

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