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[Newcastle, UK] Beyblade Northern Brawl 9/10/10

Poll: The Fee (Only vote if you are going to attend)

Fee (Prizes)
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No Fee (No Prizes)
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Sep. 09, 2010  4:06 PM
 
NORTHERN BRAWL BEYBLADE EVENT

Hasn't been aproved yet but im posting it up anyways.

Date: Saturday 9th October 2010 ( 9/10/10)
Time: 1pm

Venue: Leazes Park (Band Stand Area) Newcastle (NE, UK).
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/newt2310/park.jpg
Directions from St Jamses Park metro station.

Entry Fee:
Without Passport £3
Blader Passport holder Free

Prizes: (Subject to change based on attendance.)
Beyblade for 1st and 2nd
Sep. 09, 2010  4:50 PM
 
Sweet, I'll defo be coming Wink
Edit: Blader Passport Holder £3? If it's official, the whole point in having a passpport is so you don't pay for official tournament entry's, right?
Sep. 09, 2010  9:00 PM
 
(Sep. 09, 2010  4:06 PM)Newt Wrote: Entry Fee:
Blader Passport holder £3

:Libruh:

The point of a Blader Passport is that you don't have to pay again to enter future tournaments. If you are charging a fee to passport holders, I wouldn't expect this to get approved.
Sep. 09, 2010  9:04 PM
 
Who's the money going to anyway unless its approved I swear you don't have access to the WBO paypal account It is a mystery
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Sep. 09, 2010  9:18 PM
 
Moss, he's waiting for it to be approved. This is in anticipation for it being approved... If it wasn't, the entry fee would be to pay for the prizes. Why hold a tournament when it would cost you around £42 (if between 16-20 people show up)?

Anyway, apart from people being stupid. I'll definitely be coming along to this, the last one was great!
Sep. 09, 2010  9:44 PM
 
(Sep. 09, 2010  9:00 PM)Daegor42 Wrote:
(Sep. 09, 2010  4:06 PM)Newt Wrote: Entry Fee:
Blader Passport holder £3

:Libruh:

The point of a Blader Passport is that you don't have to pay again to enter future tournaments. If you are charging a fee to passport holders, I wouldn't expect this to get approved.

Do people expect TO's to constantly fork out their own money to pay for prizes? If so You will never get people hosting regular tourneys. Theres no incentive for people to play if theres no prizes.

I agree that WBO needs funds but the blader passport does nothing to help tournament organisers. That would be totaly unfair on a organiser who has to put his own money upfront to pay for prizes to have someone take those prizes with out contributing at all.


(Sep. 09, 2010  9:04 PM)Moss Wrote: Who's the money going to anyway unless its approved I swear you don't have access to the WBO paypal account It is a mystery
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It all goes into prizes. The leftovers get put towards future prize support and a cut to WBO.

Im not in this to make money......... If I was I wouldnt run an event at all and just put some overtime in for work.

I just want to run a fun event for all to enjoy in a semi competative enviroment where evryone has the oppourtunity to get along and progress as a blader.
Sep. 10, 2010  12:17 AM
 
The way it is supposed to work, however, is that you take your own money to buy the prizes anyway (prizes which are completely secondary by the way), you collect the regular entry fees that abide by the policy of the World Beyblade Organization, you send the money to us by Paypal, and we reimburse you what we can.

Beyblades should be available locally for you, and you have theINtoy with which we can try to arrange something. I bought three prizes for three different tournaments and shipped them, all with my own money. Surely this is affordable.
Sep. 10, 2010  1:20 AM
 
(Sep. 10, 2010  12:17 AM)Kai-V Wrote: The way it is supposed to work, however, is that you take your own money to buy the prizes anyway (prizes which are completely secondary by the way), you collect the regular entry fees that abide by the policy of the World Beyblade Organization, you send the money to us by Paypal, and we reimburse you what we can.

Beyblades should be available locally for you, and you have theINtoy with which we can try to arrange something. I bought three prizes for three different tournaments and shipped them, all with my own money. Surely this is affordable.

That sounds far more complicated than it needs to be. It also sounds like I would still end up out of pocket. If im investing a lot of effort time and money into a tournament the least I want is my investment back.


Ill give an idea of what i was thinking when I decided on fees

Examples based on 11 players

11 players prizes. 2 Beyblades for 1st , 1 Beyblade for 2nd , 1 Beyblade for 3rd

Prize total £ 32
Takings from players (based on nobody having a passport) £44
Profit: £12 (another £8 blade will be baught for a prize.) WBO Gets £4.

Prize total £ 32
Takings from players (based on everybody having a passport but still paying) £33
Profit: £1 WBO Gets £1.

If everybody with a blader passport doesnt get charged there is no money for prizes simple as. People need an incentive to play and getting prizes is always a good incentive.

I can guarantee if I do it your way im going to fail. Nobody in my community is going to pay £3.25 ($5) to enter a tourney with no prizes. I know this because Im not going to put up prizes unless I know im going to at least break even.

Trust me im not out to make a profit. If this getts approved ill run regular events and I WILL be making regular donations. Its not realy like it costs you anything to award faces and beypoints. To some bladers these can be considered as good prizes but I know from last saturday that only 3/7 players use this forum. To the other 4/7 they would much rather have a beyblade as a prize.
Sep. 10, 2010  7:38 AM
 
It's not just prizes people are in for, I assumed they were secondary to the blader points, to be honest I'm not that bothered about even getting a prize, I'd be more happy with points.
Sep. 10, 2010  8:01 AM
 
I think the point is guys, if you're not on this forum then paying to enter when there's no prizes simply makes the organiser look greedy. Likewise, I can see why Newt doesn't want to have to shell out a lot of his own money for prizes and be quite seriously out of pocket.
People get points. People get prizes. Newt loses no money, and the wbo get money.
I see no downside.
Sep. 10, 2010  3:48 PM
 
You have to understand that if we accepted to do this and the same thing for other tournaments, we would be very unable to do any sort of Quest for Quetz, special giveaways, and other things we are planning. We would put all our money on just keeping this site up and paying for the domain names. There would be even less excitement in being on this site.

Seriously, we are not going to change our policy.
Sep. 11, 2010  3:01 PM
 
I don't see why I won't be able to attend this (last time was a blast), and I'd have no problems paying an entry fee. (:

Also, what time would it start at roughly? I didn't see a time in the OP. D:
Sep. 11, 2010  3:56 PM
 
Are we making an official topic for this once the entry fee stuff is sorted?? And I asked a friend of mine if they could come and they can Smile
Sep. 11, 2010  9:29 PM
 
(Sep. 11, 2010  3:01 PM)Spoonigan Wrote: I don't see why I won't be able to attend this (last time was a blast), and I'd have no problems paying an entry fee. (:

Also, what time would it start at roughly? I didn't see a time in the OP. D:

Which one were you again? Haha. I'm Euan (ginger, came second Smile )

There's a request for approval already submitted, though what will come from that I do not know.
Though I suggested it to Newt, and he didn't seem very keen, I may as well through this out there - We could have free entry for passport holders, but a suggested donation of £3 or so to pay towards prizes.
Therefore making it legit, and anybody who was actually nice and wouldn't want Newt to be out of pocket would donate the money to allow us all to enjoy prizes.

Or I guess we could leave buying prizes to AFTER the event, and buy them depending on how much money we got/how big a turnout came. There's a fair few shops who sell blades nearby. Not great, but..
Depends if we want this official or not I guess.
Sep. 11, 2010  10:14 PM
 
Quote: Which one were you again? Haha. I'm Euan (ginger, came second Smile )

There's a request for approval already submitted, though what will come from that I do not know.
Though I suggested it to Newt, and he didn't seem very keen, I may as well through this out there - We could have free entry for passport holders, but a suggested donation of £3 or so to pay towards prizes.
Therefore making it legit, and anybody who was actually nice and wouldn't want Newt to be out of pocket would donate the money to allow us all to enjoy prizes.

Or I guess we could leave buying prizes to AFTER the event, and buy them depending on how much money we got/how big a turnout came. There's a fair few shops who sell blades nearby. Not great, but..
Depends if we want this official or not I guess.

That sounds fine by me, getting it approved is surely the main thing, once we can host one official tournament we could do more in the future and build up a bigger community- I'd be happy to donate say £3.
Sep. 12, 2010  1:01 AM
 
I'm not sure how many people turning up would have passports - I'd reckon only a few. Certainly not the majority. So hopefully those few could be persuaded to donate a few pounds.
To be honest, this way ends up meaning the WBO gets less money. But yknow. Good ol' rules and regulations!
Sep. 12, 2010  1:53 AM
 
(Sep. 11, 2010  3:01 PM)Spoonigan Wrote: I don't see why I won't be able to attend this (last time was a blast), and I'd have no problems paying an entry fee. (:

Also, what time would it start at roughly? I didn't see a time in the OP. D:

Oh hai thar Steph Grin 1pm Smile

(Sep. 12, 2010  1:01 AM)TraceKaiser Wrote: I'm not sure how many people turning up would have passports - I'd reckon only a few. Certainly not the majority. So hopefully those few could be persuaded to donate a few pounds.
To be honest, this way ends up meaning the WBO gets less money. But yknow. Good ol' rules and regulations!

Errm...... last event we had 7 people. And nobody had passports.
Sep. 12, 2010  9:50 AM
 
Exactly, so any loss - if passport holders couldn't be persuaded to donate - would probably be covered. Just less money left over for the WBO
Sep. 12, 2010  9:52 AM
 
Quote:Errm...... last event we had 7 people. And nobody had passports.

I'm pretty you'd get a fair amount more than 7 people if we get this to be an official event, and some of the new people going [like me] would possibly have passports.
Sep. 13, 2010  4:44 PM
 
But the point is, very few people there would have passports. So the amount of people not contributing the voluntary contribution would be minimal - if not nonexistent, as I'm sure most people wouldn't mind helping out with a few quid so we can all enjoy prizes.
And this way it can be official and get beypoints and yadda yadda yadda.
Sep. 13, 2010  4:47 PM
 
(Sep. 13, 2010  4:44 PM)TraceKaiser Wrote: But the point is, very few people there would have passports. So the amount of people not contributing the voluntary contribution would be minimal - if not nonexistent, as I'm sure most people wouldn't mind helping out with a few quid so we can all enjoy prizes.
And this way it can be official and get beypoints and yadda yadda yadda.

I know, and I agree with that totally don't get me wrong haha. I'm just wondering what's going on with this at the moment, I'm guessing we are just waiting to get it approved and getting a topic for this in the official events section??
Sep. 13, 2010  6:30 PM
 
(Sep. 13, 2010  4:47 PM)xXUnicornoXx Wrote: I know, and I agree with that totally don't get me wrong haha. I'm just wondering what's going on with this at the moment, I'm guessing we are just waiting to get it approved and getting a topic for this in the official events section??

Errm its waiting for approval. Ive PMed most of the people involved in the process. Im just waiting for some questions on an answer.
Sep. 20, 2010  8:26 PM
 
(Sep. 13, 2010  6:30 PM)Newt Wrote:
(Sep. 13, 2010  4:47 PM)xXUnicornoXx Wrote: I know, and I agree with that totally don't get me wrong haha. I'm just wondering what's going on with this at the moment, I'm guessing we are just waiting to get it approved and getting a topic for this in the official events section??

Errm its waiting for approval. Ive PMed most of the people involved in the process. Im just waiting for some questions on an answer.

Any updates?? Just It would only be a couple of weeks away or so now, and I need to plan travel/ see if a friend can come etc
Sep. 20, 2010  8:34 PM
 
This is already approved. We'll move this to Official Events, after Newt makes the adjustments in the Opening Post.
Sep. 20, 2010  8:39 PM
 
Yeah another UK event approved just wait for ours then for the first time ever two Uk events will be on the upcoming events list
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