(MSF-M) Bahamdia Dragooon BD145LRF/R2F

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Hey guys! Welcome to my 13th testing thread!

Just to let you know, now that the school year is underway and I'm buried under mounds of work, any testing threads I write will likely not be as elaborate as my previous ones. I might include a video once in a while, but they're mostly just gonna be an explanation and a 5-10 sets of results.

Anyway, hope you guys like this combo!

The concept:

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The concept of this custom is quite simple. This is an all-out push-attacker. This left-spin Attack type is built to use its opposite rotation to "shove" right-spin opponents out of the stadium. It can incorporate a very high level of smash as well, but the primary function is "push-attack."

This custom, contrary to what you're probably thinking, is not very heavy at all. The total weight comes out to about 72.15 grams, which is only average for a synchrom attacker. However, due to its low center of gravity, high traction/speed, and low recoil, this custom will win against most other Attack types relatively consistently.

There is one thing about this custom that you probably wouldn't suspect... its spin-stealing abilities are quite pitiful. The limit to what this combo can out-spin via spin-equalization would be a Synchrom BD145CS Defense setup, which is not too impressive at all for a BD145 combo on R2F. Against tall/short combos, it may not even be able to steal spin at all. Spin-equalization can work well against certain low-Precession customizations, but its definitely only something to rely on as a last resort.

As I am very happy to say, this combo actually lacks some of the weaknesses of other conventional Synchrom Attack types. Unlike most customs, this combo dominates against Synchrom E230 defenders and Scythe 85 Defense, and, although it is still quite a tough opponent to take out, is impressively effective against Duo (for a Synchrom custom, of course... Flash still does a way better job). This custom will also STOMP on F230's grave. F230GCF/CF customs of any kind will bite the dust against this combo nearly every time. That said, there are very few competitive combos that this custom cannot KO if the user launches it correctly.

The launch:

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This custom is very dependent on your launch technique. The launch here is identical to the launch used for Wyvang Dragooon SA165R2F, a wide-ish, sweeping pattern just off-center enough to to hit your opponent at a more sideways angle to shove your opponent out of the stadium, which can be done by banking at a slightly thinner angle than a normal sliding-shoot. Against Left-spin customs, just bank normally, as you aren't in the opposite spin-direction of your opponent.

Against F230 customs, tornado stall as FAST AS YOU CAN. You should be able to achieve a very high win rate.

Against Duo Defense, Deep-banking works well for me. I don't know why, but it works quite a bit better.

Parts choice:

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(MSF-M):

Notice I put MSF-M in parentheses... that means it's optional. MSF-M is beneficial on this custom, as it reduces recoil, adds weight, and puts a little more force behind its attacks, but it's not enough of a change to call a normal face a vastly inferior option. MSF-M was the only Metal Stone Face variation that didn't hurt this custom more than it helped it. MSF-L wasn't very good at all. MSF-H was decent-ish (and what I was originally going with), but both slowed the combo down and limited its range of movement far too much for my taste. MSF-M was great because there was a slight recoil reduction, without virtually any reduction of speed. A normal Face works great as well.

Bahamdia:

Where do I start with Bahamdia... this thing is a MONSTER. This is the piece that makes this custom so great. Aside from the fact that it is the only Chrome Wheel that can extend beyond BD145's edge, while Balro and Wyvang work absolutely stunningly on Dragooon, Bahamdia Dragooon is in a league of its own. The thing is a powerhouse. Tossing things all over the stadium with ease, this is, from what I've seen, the most effective left-spin Attack Synchrom there is.

As a bonus, Bahamdia's dis-favorable inconsistencies on right-spin combos seems to be next to nonexistent in opposite-spin.

Dragooon: Left-spin. 'Nuff said. XD

BD145:

BD145 adds weight and lowers the center of gravity of the Beyblade. This can be favorable against other Attack customs, as it lowers recoil, and in this case provides a serious boost in raw power. While I found W145,TR145,R145, and SA165 quite effective on this custom, BD145 surpassed them all with flying colors against just about every custom I tested it against.

LRF/R2F:

Speed and traction. Left-spin customs require high speed to be effective at what they do. That said, RF is sickeningly defective on this combo. High speed and a wide movement pattern is absolutely essential for this kind of thing, both of which R2F and LRF provide. I did these tests with R2F, as it is readily available to me, but I have tried it with LRF briefly and it is just as, if not slightly more, effective on this combo. YOUR R2F/LRF MUST BE IN NEW TO PRIME CONDITION TO USE THIS CUSTOM. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE THIS COMBO WITH A WORN BOTTOM.

Testing videos:

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I was really excited about how well the combo did in this video. Hope this helps!

Testing:

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NOTE: I was having a bit of a bad day with Attack types. I just couldn't do as well as I usually do, so just a heads up that the win rates are gonna be slightly lower than normal.

Benchmarks:

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MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F vs. MSF-H Revizer Revizer BD145RDF
Revizer launched first on all launches.
Wyvang: wins, 14/20 (All KO)
Revizer: wins, 6/20 (1 KO, 5 OS)
MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F win rate: 70%

Good ol' Wyvang... even on a bad day, the thing still bulldozes everything. XD

MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F vs. MF-H Duo Cygnus BD145RDF
Cygnus launched first on all launches.
Wyvang: wins, 0/10
Cygnus: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F win rate: 0%

My Duo is EXTREMELY difficult to KO with anything Synchrom... I don't know what's wrong with the thing, but it's an unmovable boulder. I tried this test like 3 times, and I still couldn't get a KO. I have never seen a synchrom Attack type get higher than 10 percent against a Defense type using my Duo. It's creepy...

Wyvang Dragooon SA165R2F vs. MSF-H Revizer Revizer BD145RDF
Revizer launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 11/20 (All KO)
Revizer: wins, 9/20 (1 KO, 5 OS)
Wyvang Dragooon SA165R2F win rate: 55%

I seriously apologize for this low a win rate... I was really having a bad day, LOL! I usually hit 60-65% with this combo.

Wyvang Dragooon SA165R2F vs. MF-H Duo Cygnus BD145RDF
Cygnus launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 0/10
Cygnus: wins, 10/10 (All OS)
Wyvang Dragooon SA165R2F win rate: 0%

Vs. Defense:

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MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. MSF-H Revizer Revizer BD145RDF
Revizer launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 13/20 (All KO)
Revizer: wins, 7/20 (All OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 65%

Quite impressive... only 5% behind Wyvang! Getting the launch right is difficult, but if you can manage it this custom will work very well.


MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. Revizer Killerken BD145CS
Revizer launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 16/20 (14 KO, 2 OS)
Revizer: wins, 4/20 (All OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 80%

Booyah.

MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. Revizer Killerken E230RB
Killerken launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 15/15 (8 KO, 7 OS)
Killerken: wins, 0/15 (All OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 100%

Bang!


MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. MF-H Scythe Uranus 85RS
Uranus launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 10/10 (1 KO, 9 OS)
Uranus: wins, 0/10 (All OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 100%

Kappow!

MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. MF-H Duo Cygnus BD145RDF
Cygnus launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 8/20 (All KO)
Cygnus: wins, 12/20 (All OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 40%

Now, this is great... my Duo is, as I said before, and unmovable boulder when it comes to taking on Synchrom combos. It's 5 times harder to KO than other people's Duo, for what reason I know not, but that said this is actually really, really great. This custom does far better against Duo than any other competitive Synchrom Attack type I've tried so far.

So yah... Pretty carping awesome!

Vs. Stamina:

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MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. Duo Cancer W145WD
Cancer launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 16/20 (All KO)
Cancer: wins, 4/20 (All OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 80%


MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. Duo Cancer 230D
Cancer launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 9/10 (All KO)
Cancer: wins, 1/10 (1 OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 90%

MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. Genbull Genbull SR200TB
Genbull launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 10/10 (8 KO, 2 OS)
Genbull: wins, 0/10
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 100%

MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. Revizer Dragooon SA165EWD
Revizer Dragooon launched first on all launches.
Bahamdia Dragooon: wins, 9/10 (All KO)
Revizer Dragooon: wins, 1/10 (1 OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 90%

Just thought I'd throw these in for good measure.

Vs. Attack:

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MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F
Beys alternated launching first. Bottoms swapped half way through.
Dragooon: wins, 9/10 (All OS)
Wyvang: wins, 1/10 (1 OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 90%

This thing has extremely low recoil... Wyvang could get it onto the tornado ridge a couple times, but not far enough to land a KO. I launched Wyvang as hard and as fas as I possibly could right into the path of Dragooon, and I still couldn't land a KO. This combo works extremely well as an anti-attacker... perhaps even better than MSF-L Girago Girago BD145RF for me!

I'm super excited about these results.

Vs. Balance:

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MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. Genbull Genbull F230CF
Genbull launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 16/20 (All KO)
Genbull: wins, 4/20 (All OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 80%

MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. Genbull Dragooon F230CF
Genbull Dragooon launched first on all launches.
Bahamdia Dragooon: wins, 18/20 (All KO)
Genbull Dragooon: wins, 2/20 (All OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 90%

This is really great. This custom has no problem with F230.

MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs. MSF-L Girago Girago BD145RF
Girago launched first on all launches.
Dragooon: wins, 1/10 (1 KO)
Girago: wins, 9/10 (2 KO, 7 OS)
MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F win rate: 10%

Anti-Attack + Attack = fail. XD No surprise here... the reigning king of Anti-Attack prevails.

Testing from other users:

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BENCHMARK

MSF Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F vs. MSF Reviser Reviser BD145RDF
Reviser always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Wyvang OS
2. Wyvang KO
3. Reviser KO
4. Wyvang KO
5. Reviser OS
6. Reviser OS
7. Wyvang KO
8. Wyvang KO
9. Wyvang KO
10. Wyvang KO
11. Reviser OS
12. Wyvang OS
13. Reviser KO
14. Reviser KO
15. Wyvang KO
16. Reviser OS
17. Reviser KO
18. Wyvang OS
19. Wyvang KO
20. Wyvang KO
21. Wyvang KO
22. Wyvang KO
23. Reviser OS
24. Wyvang KO
25. Reviser KO
26. Reviser OS
27. Wyvang KO
28. Wyvang KO
29. Reviser OS
30. Wyvang KO

Wyvang: 18 (3 OS, 15 KO)
Reviser: 12 (7 OS, 5 KO)
Wyvang Win %: 60.0%

I was having a bit of an off day with Wyvang here, haha! Still ran Reviser over like a truck, but normally I can ink out a bit more win %.


TESTS

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145LRF vs. MSF-H Reviser Reviser BD145RDF
Reviser always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Bahamdia KO
2. Reviser OS
3. Bahamdia KO
4. Bahamdia KO
5. Reviser OS
6. Reviser OS
7. Reviser OS
8. Reviser OS
9. Bahamdia KO
10. Bahamdia KO
11. Reviser KO
12. Reviser OS
13. Reviser OS
14. Bahamdia KO
15. Reviser OS
16. Reviser OS
17. Bahamdia KO
18. Bahamdia KO
19. Reviser OS
20. Bahamdia KO
21. Bahamdia KO
22. Reviser OS
23. Bahamdia KO

Bahamdia: 11 (0 OS, 11 KO)
Reviser: 12 (11 OS, 1 KO)
Bahamdia Win %: 47.8%

The only reason I stopped the tests here is because Bahamdia landed a super clean hit and the Reviser custom exploded, tearing my last MSF-H into shreds and sending parts flying across the room. I still can't find the top of my MSF-Custom, haha!

I should say that these results could have been a lot better because my launch with left-spin attackers needs work. Despite that, it still pulled off pretty impressive numbers, and I'm very pleased with how it did overall. Like TBD said, this thing pushes the opposing custom out of the arena as oppose to Wyvang's skyrocketing OHKO, which takes some getting used to but is ultimately very effective.

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145LRF vs. MSF Reviser Reviser E230RDF
Reviser always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Bahamdia KO
2. Bahamdia KO
3. Reviser OS
4. Tie; Reviser OS
5. Reviser OS
6. Tie; Bahamdia OS
7. Bahamdia OS
8. Reviser OS
9. Reviser OS
10. Reviser OS
11. Reviser OS
12. Bahamdia OS
13. Bahamdia KO
14. Reviser OS
15. Bahamdia OS
16. Bahamdia OS
17. Reviser OS
18. Reviser OS
19. Reviser OS
20. Bahamdia KO

Bahamdia: 9 (5 OS, 4 KO)
Reviser: 11 (11 OS, 0 KO)
Bahamdia Win %: 45.0%

Not bad! Not amazing, but not bad. The KOs I did get were very clean, and the OSes were primarily the result of some nice hits that threw Reviser off balance early. Again, I need work on my left-spin attack launch, but the numbers were still pretty good despite that. I'll do this test again once I'm used to the launch.

Thanks to Ingulit for his help! He did note that he's not quite used to the launch for this thing yet... that said, these numbers are pretty darn good! Just goes to show how much practice it can take. If I did my math right, then his results for Bahamdia Dragooon BD145LRF are about as close to MSF Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F as my Wyvang Dragooon SA165R2F tests were (with about Bahamdia Dragooon ahead by about a 2% margin).

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs Phantom(Attack)Cygnus 85MF
Altenating launches. R2F in prime condition
Dragooon wins: 17/20(all KO)
Phantom wins: 3/20(all OS)
Dragooon Win Rate: 85%

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs Balro Balro CH120R2F(worn R2F)
Alternating launches. Bahamdia's R2F in prime condition.
Dragooon wins: 9/10(all KO)
Balro winsall KO)
2 Ties
Dragooon Win rate:90%

Thanks to Shiny for his help!

So this thing was a boss for the two rounds I tested. My BD145 broke in the third battle . The part where tip goes had a dent and it broke and tip flew off leaving the bey spinning there without it, haha. I can't find my other one so I can't do the tests at the moment, haha.

Here's what I did do -

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145LRF vs. Reviser Killerken E230CS

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BD: 2 wins [1 KO (Push KO), 1 OS (by destabilization)]
RK: 0 wins

Well I was really looking forward to more XD!

LOL! Thanks Tri! XD

FINALLY got all the tests!

Benchmark:
MSF Wyvang Dragooon SA165(ZRG Attack Mode)R2F vs Reviser Reviser BD145RSF
Alternating launches. R2F in prime condition.[/b]
Dragooon wins: 8/10(all KO)
Reviser wins: 2/10(all OS)
Dragooon Win Rate: 80%

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs Reviser Reviser BD145RSF
[u] Alternating launches. R2F is in prime condition.
Dragooon wins: 9/10(all KO)
Reviser wins: 1/10(all OS)
Dragooon Win Percentage: 90%

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs Wyvang Wyvang BD145RSF
Alternating launches. R2F in prime condition
Dragooon wins: 10/10(8 KO, 2 OS)
Wyvang wins: 0/10
Dragooon Win Rate: 100%
Here comes the recoil, here comes the recoil, here comes the recoil for Wyvang to fly away!

...*Falls off chair in shock*. This is great! Big thanks to Shining God MS for helping out with this!

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145 RF vs Wyvang Wyvang BD145 RSF
Dragooon: 18 Wins(16 KO, 2 OS)
Wyvang: 2 Wins(1 KO, 1 OS)
6 Ties
Dragooon Win Rate: 90%

Pretty impressive.

Thanks to ShinobuXD for helping out with this!

Counters:

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(MSF-L/H) Girago Girago BD145RF/R2F

Overall, I really think this is a very effective Attack custom. The launch is quite difficult to get the hang of, but once you've got it down there's not much this combo can't KO. Post your thoughts!

Thanks for reading! Testing is strongly encouraged!

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I'm really impressed on how well this does against F230 variants.

It looks carping awesome, so its main weakness is defenitely anti-attack?

Makes me wish I hadn't sold both my Bahamdia's...

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6 God is watching and I hope you're prepared to face him

It looks like duo rdf kinda beats it a little bit, but I'm glad to see it beats f230cf

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

So this thing was a boss for the two rounds I tested. My BD145 broke in the third battle . The part where tip goes had a dent and it broke and tip flew off leaving the bey spinning there without it, haha. I can't find my other one so I can't do the tests at the moment, haha.

Here's what I did do -

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145LRF vs. Reviser Killerken E230CS

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BD: 2 wins [1 KO (Push KO), 1 OS (by destabilization)]
RK: 0 wins

Well I was really looking forward to more XD!

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still posi

I don't have much more to say than what I said in the OP, haha! This custom is very good and very fun to use, and it's definitely one of the best left-spin attackers I've seen in quite awhile. I didn't get a chance tonight to do a benchmark with our other resident top-tier left-spin attacker Wyvang Dragooon SA165[ZGA]R2F, but I'll hopefully have those results up in the morning for comparison. There is a strong chance this will see some tournament play at the next event I go to after I get used to the launch.

Good stuff yet again TBD!!

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4D Customs (Click to View)

• MF-L Phantom (Attack) Cygnus 85MF
  
• MF-H Scythe Uranus 85RS
  
• MF-H Flash Orion W145MF
  
• MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F
  
• Duo Cygnus 160PD
  

MFB Customs (Click to View)

• MSF-H Reviser Dragooon SA165EWD
  
• MSF-H Bahamdia Ifraid SA165R2F
  
• MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F
  

I just thought I'd note, I had some trouble at keeping it in the stadium in some instances before I started recording the results. I don't know if you guys experienced this, but I did.

Also, this thing had some serious smash as well, not just "push attack" . It slammed Reviser Killerken E230CS in the wall hard enough to destabilize it and win by OS!

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still posi

I know this was probably in the OP but im kinda in a rush, is it necessary to use a MSF-M because I would love to contribute to this combo but sadly I don't have a MSF.

BTW this setup looks awsome.

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Nope... it's not necessary. It helps a little bit, but it isn't required. That's why "MSF-M" is in parentheses.

Ingulit: I'm assuming the two will be extremely close... I've been testing them more, and Bahamdia Dragooon seems to put far more force behind its attacks, but Wyvang Dragooon seems to be able to move wider...

However, that was using a worn Bottom (worn out from all this testing), so I'd assume Bahamdia Dragooon's lmited movement pattern wouldn't be a problem with a newer tip... still, Wyvang Dragooon seems a bit more mobile, which seems to mostly even it out.

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I got my Left spin launcher pretty quickly and can now do tests! Requests?

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

Yes, phantom Cygnus 85mf please

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

Yes, phantom Cygnus 85mf please

Good lord... Phantom's gonna fly to pieces. XD

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Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs Phantom(Attack)Cygnus 85MF
Altenating launches. R2F in prime condition
Dragooon wins: 17/20(all KO)
Phantom wins: 3/20(all OS)
Dragooon Win Rate: 85%

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

I'm surprised it didn't get 20/20 :\. All you have to do is stall Bahamdia Dragoon. Is that what you did or did you do a wide flower pattern?

What the heck theblackdragon, you didn't add my two rounds of testing?! Lol just kidding .

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still posi

Wow it killed t stall, can't wait to see more results

EDIT: it's ok phantom, I still love u

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

I did a wide flower pattern, like the launch told me to do. If I did a stall launch, this would've been done in 5 minutes XD!

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

Well, against a tornado staller, the easiest way to make contact with an attack is to stall so that it pretty much chases it. Plus, it'll be closer to the exits making KOs easier.

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still posi

Please test against balro balro ch120r2f

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Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

I'll do that right now!

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

This will definatly be interesting, "push smash" vs pure smash attack

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs Balro Balro CH120R2F(worn R2F)
Alternating launches. Bahamdia's R2F in prime condition.
Dragooon wins: 9/10(all KO)
Balro winsall KO)
2 Ties
Dragooon Win rate:90%

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

Bahamdia Dragooon BD145R2F vs Balro Balro CH120R2F(worn R2F)
Alternating launches. Bahamdia's R2F in prime condition.
Dragooon wins: 9/10(all KO)
Balro winsall KO)
2 Ties
Dragooon Win rate:90%

Well, can somebody test with both prime r2fs ?

EDIT: or can u test with switched tips to make sure that the wear didnt make a difference shiny (can I call u that?)

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

Great! Thanks Shiny!

Do you think you might be able to throw some Defense testing in there? Like with Revizer Revizer BD145RDF/RB/RSF/CS (RDF preferably), with a benchmark for Wyvang Dragooon SA165R2F?

Actually, anyone who could do that please do!

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I wanna see how (MSF(-H)) Wyvang Wyvang BD145RSF handles this, as I have literally no idea which way that would go, haha! I feel like that'd be a matchup with a lot of KOs either way, so 20 rounds might not be adequate to get a good idea of how it performs. I'll hopefully be able to do those tests soon, but in the meantime I'd love it if someone could try it out too

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• MF-L Phantom (Attack) Cygnus 85MF
  
• MF-H Scythe Uranus 85RS
  
• MF-H Flash Orion W145MF
  
• MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F
  
• Duo Cygnus 160PD
  

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• MSF-H Reviser Dragooon SA165EWD
  
• MSF-H Bahamdia Ifraid SA165R2F
  
• MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F
  

I'll be able to do all those tests when I get home!

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

I will be testing when I get home if ican find my non-broken BD145 .

I can test agains Reviser Reviser/Killerken BD145CS. The weird thing is, I don't think my BD145 is actually broken, some tips are just pretty loose on it. The bottoms that do fit good are ones like CS, RS, one of my R2F, etc.

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still posi