look i tested for the lolz aries 85 xf.... it acts like a f***ing ramp! it knocked my libra up and out my stadium test it for your self

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This is pretty much a theory or something but would a Q tip help? If the bey gets knocked down whilst trying to execute an upper attack the Q tip could make the bey jump a bit because when a bey gets knocked down it's on an angle, the cut off part of the Q tip gets exposed and a sudden impact could make it jump a tiny bit. This could increase the force of the bey helping the bey overcome the weight/force of the opposing bey.
With the little extra force it could overcome some heavy beys such as pre-HWS Libra and HWS earth.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opoq4wdSFqM
This video is cyber pegasus vs midnight bull.
When cyber pegasus is launched at an angle it seemed to launch midnight bull upwards. Cyber might have some upper attack potential if used properly

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I knew cyber had upper attack! (look at my old post)

I knew cyber had upper attack! (look at my old post)

Well cyber doesn't have true upper attack capabilities because if you look carefully just before midnight was knocked out, cyber didn't make contact with midnight. The recoil from midnight touching the stadium floor is what caused it to get sent out of the stadium. Cyber mainly sent midnight straight up then midnight fell onto cyber, midnight got sent upwards again onto the ridge at an angle, the metal wheel touched the floor and sent itself flying. Cyber really just sent the beyblade upwards not upwards and outwards. The reason midnight moved in mid air onto the ridge at an angle because cyber was on an angle aswell.

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Midnight is not a good Beyblade to test against anyway ...

Well that's true, midnight isn't a very good beyblade to use. Really upper attack is pretty much non existant or very rare. The reason old plastic beys were able to execute an upper attack because of the shape of the AR used on both beys.
http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/Upper_Attack
The best AR for upper attack are mainly round besides triple tiger. The opposing bey would usually have protrusions/spikes like eight attacker (dragoon v). The bey that has upper attack sends the opposing bey upwards and whilst the opposing bey is spinning, the protrusions hit the ramps sending itself flying.(recoil)

The metal wheels in the current beys are too round to for the above to happen unless takara and hasbro decide to make the metal wheels in some sort of style of the old beys whilst keeping the clear wheels the same. This also is pretty much not even going to happen.

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Well that's true, midnight isn't a very good beyblade to use. Really upper attack is pretty much non existant or very rare. The reason old plastic beys were able to execute an upper attack because of the shape of the AR used on both beys.
http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/Upper_Attack
The best AR for upper attack are mainly round besides triple tiger. The opposing bey would usually have protrusions/spikes like eight attacker (dragoon v). The bey that has upper attack sends the opposing bey upwards and whilst the opposing bey is spinning, the protrusions hit the ramps sending itself flying.(recoil)

The metal wheels in the current beys are too round to for the above to happen unless takara and hasbro decide to make the metal wheels in some sort of style of the old beys whilst keeping the clear wheels the same. This also is pretty much not even going to happen.

i disagree, i have a video that shows midnight lifting earth bull 145sd multiple times, once even a few inches of the stadium floor (that i will post after it is uploaded), and if you look at the picture of upper dragoon in that article and then look at midnights slope, they are practically the same

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Great Thread, i've been wondering myself if any MFB blades could be used to produce upper atack but Wolf Blade makes a good point, drybones, upper attack is really a double effort, Triple tiger vs Dragoon G's AR is a good example, its not just the attacking bey lifting the opposer, but the opposer screwing himself with his own recoil....

I'm planning on getting Midnight anyway so I could test that out unless someone beats me to the punch. lol...

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I'm planning on getting Midnight anyway so I could test that out unless someone beats me to the punch. lol...

well i kinda beat you there

here three videos that i made about upper attack and if midnight is good for it

part one (my theory): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RObveip6M
part two (random math): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9znea31NSU
part three (midnight and storm lift earth bull into the air, most of the lifts are small but at 2:40-2:50 there is a 1-2 inch lift from midnight): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbSXjZvlKPc

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here three videos that i made about upper attack and if midnight is good for it

part one (my theory): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RObveip6M
part two (random math): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9znea31NSU
part three (midnight and storm lift earth bull into the air, most of the lifts are small but at 2:40-2:50 there is a 1-2 inch lift from midnight): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbSXjZvlKPc

that was pretty cool. You put quite a bit of thought into it.
Here's what I've got to say about the videos.

Video 1: lol, that your brother? You sound like You have a cold.
That's pretty much it, since it was just describing how you thought of it.

Video 2: I really thought that was cool. It was cool how you measured that midnight's slope would be just under earth.

Video 3: guess what I'm testing this weekend! Only storm, I don't have midnight. That was pretty impressive. I actually think in an attack stadium it would be quite a bit more effective; the flat part of your stadium seemed to make midnight and storm have less angle to their movement.

I really liked those. Good job.

Yippee!!!!! Storm has upper attack potential! I knew it!

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video one: yep that is my little brother. my allergies were acting up

video two: thanks, i found it cool to

video three: yes i agree, a TT attack would do better

i will try night sometime soon for upper as well, from my informal testing it didn't do as good as midnight

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Well, I went to testing storm for it.

I might have been launching it too hard for a decent flower pattern, because it couldnt make sufficient contact to utilize upper.
So then I went to WB. It was a little better, but still not consistent as it needs to be.
Then I tried flame 85 f. Still not what I wanted.
Then in the end, I actually went back to my combo Mf-H flame Gasher 85 wb. Ahah.

Just looking at the Storm wheel tells me it will not make use of upper attack at all; slopes don't exist. Perhaps the underside of Earth is working against itself?
Quetz4lyfe.

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How is the underside of earth working against itself?

Hey lord wolf blade, do you mind trying midnight against flame bull 145 wd.
Just since flame is raised, it would be kinda interesting to see if midnight can consistently win because of upper attack.

Just looking at the Storm wheel tells me it will not make use of upper attack at all; slopes don't exist. Perhaps the underside of Earth is working against itself?
Quetz4lyfe.

well it does have slopes (same length as midights but the start steep(er) and then go almost flat), the reason the slopes shouldn't work is explained in my upper video part 2,

the underside of earth is almost flat so i do not see how it could

@SSJfisherman sure, i will do it ASAP

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If you notice, at the bottom of Earth, it is sort of like a severely compressed parabola. (The wings have a slight upward slope, perhaps helping the opponent?)

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Hmm, maybe?
But at this point, the important thing is to find out if upper attack is possible and effective, so using another wheel may just make that harder, which is sorta counter productive.

I think Basalt would be good for this (shape-wise), but it is extremely heavy impeding any upper attack.

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If you notice, at the bottom of Earth, it is sort of like a severely compressed parabola. (The wings have a slight upward slope, perhaps helping the opponent?)

i see that, but the slope is very small and a bit rough so (i think) it wont help the upper combo at all

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3MbSYNoO...er&list=UL
Storm Really does have Upper.
Most shown in 2 and 3 rd round.

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Yeah! It does have upper potential! Finally my suggestion did prove out to be useful for the WBO community. Still, a question- Is Storm the best wheel for Upper attack?

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Yeah! It does have upper potential! Finally my suggestion did prove out to be useful for the WBO community. Still, a question- Is Storm the best wheel for Upper attack?

I am pretty sure that Big Bang has more.

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