WD isn't a good bottom? It is my best defending tip.
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It's alright but it's not great. WB is much better.
Well yeah, WB is a great defending tip and provides great attack also.
Probably a dumb question, but how come I can never see MB listed anywhere?
Is it a case of not enough testing, or is it just aweful?
Is it a case of not enough testing, or is it just aweful?
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(Jan. 04, 2011 5:52 PM)arkboy Wrote: Probably a dumb question, but how come I can never see MB listed anywhere?Hm, it is not good for Defense because it has very little friction and easily loses balance, but I think someone tested it for Stamina with a low Track like 100. I am not sure it is the best choice for Stamina though.
Is it a case of not enough testing, or is it just aweful?
Forgot about MB and S130. I'll list them soon.
Thanks for the info Kai-v,
And surely RF should be listed as tier 1 attack bottom. The Hasbro version is slightly better imo.
And surely RF should be listed as tier 1 attack bottom. The Hasbro version is slightly better imo.
I don't understand why D is tier 2 on the stamina bottoms list, it is top tier is it not?, so why tier 2? it odviously not top tier if it is in tier 2...
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(Jan. 04, 2011 6:21 PM)arkboy Wrote: Thanks for the info Kai-v,
And surely RF should be listed as tier 1 attack bottom. The Hasbro version is slightly better imo.
Haven't done attack bottoms yet.
(Jan. 04, 2011 6:25 PM)tman14 Wrote: I don't understand why D is tier 2 on the stamina bottoms list, it is top tier is it not?, so why tier 2? it odviously not top tier if it is in tier 2...
I thought SD and WD are much better than D. That's why no one uses D.
(Jan. 04, 2011 6:37 PM)Ultrablader Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 6:25 PM)tman14 Wrote: I don't understand why D is tier 2 on the stamina bottoms list, it is top tier is it not?, so why tier 2? it odviously not top tier if it is in tier 2...
I thought SD and WD are much better than D. That's why no one uses D.
you are correct wd and sd are better than d
(Jan. 04, 2011 6:49 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 6:37 PM)Ultrablader Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 6:25 PM)tman14 Wrote: I don't understand why D is tier 2 on the stamina bottoms list, it is top tier is it not?, so why tier 2? it odviously not top tier if it is in tier 2...
I thought SD and WD are much better than D. That's why no one uses D.
you are correct wd and sd are better than d
no one uses D because SD and WD are more easilly avaible and yes, they are better, but look at the top tier list, if D is in tier 2 it obviously isn't top tier..,
(Jan. 04, 2011 7:12 PM)tman14 Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 6:49 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 6:37 PM)Ultrablader Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 6:25 PM)tman14 Wrote: I don't understand why D is tier 2 on the stamina bottoms list, it is top tier is it not?, so why tier 2? it odviously not top tier if it is in tier 2...
I thought SD and WD are much better than D. That's why no one uses D.
you are correct wd and sd are better than d
no one uses D because SD and WD are more easilly avaible and yes, they are better, but look at the top tier list, if D is in tier 2 it obviously isn't top tier..,
no one uses d because wd and sd are better than it. and d isnt top tier because its outclassed by wd and sd
D needs to be taken of the competitive combos list. I have no control over this though.
It may be. I've never owned one but the general standing has always been that the other two are better.
D<SD<WD
(Jan. 04, 2011 8:18 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:17 PM)Evan Wrote: D<SD<WD
what? i thought it was d<sd=wd
Some people say that, but I've been doing some testing on my own and it really seems that WD is superior to SD. Tho my tests aren't 100% accurate since I'm testing with the Wolf Wheel instead of Bull (I only have 1 bull, whereas I have 2 Wolfs)
(Jan. 04, 2011 8:37 PM)Evan Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:18 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:17 PM)Evan Wrote: D<SD<WD
what? i thought it was d<sd=wd
Some people say that, but I've been doing some testing on my own and it really seems that WD is superior to SD. Tho my tests aren't 100% accurate since I'm testing with the Wolf Wheel instead of Bull (I only have 1 bull, whereas I have 2 Wolfs)
i will test my self (i have 2 bulls, but i need 2 use 2 flames, i only have one earth), but what combo do you launch first the wd one or the sd one
(Jan. 04, 2011 8:53 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:37 PM)Evan Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:18 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:17 PM)Evan Wrote: D<SD<WD
what? i thought it was d<sd=wd
Some people say that, but I've been doing some testing on my own and it really seems that WD is superior to SD. Tho my tests aren't 100% accurate since I'm testing with the Wolf Wheel instead of Bull (I only have 1 bull, whereas I have 2 Wolfs)
i will test my self (i have 2 bulls, but i need 2 use 2 flames, i only have one earth), but what combo do you launch first the wd one or the sd one
The combos used were Earth Wolf 100WD vs Earth Wolf 100SD shot alternating (I only have 1 145). Then I tested Earth Wolf 145WD against a few top tier attacks, and MF Earth Bull GB145; then repeated those tests SD.
(Jan. 04, 2011 9:02 PM)Evan Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:53 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:37 PM)Evan Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:18 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:17 PM)Evan Wrote: D<SD<WD
what? i thought it was d<sd=wd
Some people say that, but I've been doing some testing on my own and it really seems that WD is superior to SD. Tho my tests aren't 100% accurate since I'm testing with the Wolf Wheel instead of Bull (I only have 1 bull, whereas I have 2 Wolfs)
i will test my self (i have 2 bulls, but i need 2 use 2 flames, i only have one earth), but what combo do you launch first the wd one or the sd one
The combos used were Earth Wolf 100WD vs Earth Wolf 100SD shot alternating (I only have 1 145). Then I tested Earth Wolf 145WD against a few top tier attacks, and MF Earth Bull GB145; then repeated those tests SD.
ah thats why, wd does better at a low hight then sd, but at 145 there about the same, again i will test myself with these combos: flame bull 145 wd, flame bull 145 sd
(Jan. 04, 2011 2:27 PM)RedRivers Wrote: Well yeah, WB is a great defending tip and provides great attack also.
it doesnt provide a good attack a mild one when most its spin velocity has run out but its stamina is ok however compared to ball and wd is second rate which is why wd and b are stamina performance tips.
(Jan. 04, 2011 9:04 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 9:02 PM)Evan Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:53 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:37 PM)Evan Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:18 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 8:17 PM)Evan Wrote: D<SD<WD
what? i thought it was d<sd=wd
Some people say that, but I've been doing some testing on my own and it really seems that WD is superior to SD. Tho my tests aren't 100% accurate since I'm testing with the Wolf Wheel instead of Bull (I only have 1 bull, whereas I have 2 Wolfs)
i will test my self (i have 2 bulls, but i need 2 use 2 flames, i only have one earth), but what combo do you launch first the wd one or the sd one
The combos used were Earth Wolf 100WD vs Earth Wolf 100SD shot alternating (I only have 1 145). Then I tested Earth Wolf 145WD against a few top tier attacks, and MF Earth Bull GB145; then repeated those tests SD.
ah thats why, wd does better at a low hight then sd, but at 145 there about the same, again i will test myself with these combos: flame bull 145 wd, flame bull 145 sd
It scored slightly better against attack types at 145 also. I was using TT Attack. Please use it if you have it
(Jan. 04, 2011 9:05 PM)dragoonlover Wrote:(Jan. 04, 2011 2:27 PM)RedRivers Wrote: Well yeah, WB is a great defending tip and provides great attack also.
it doesnt provide a good attack a mild one when most its spin velocity has run out but its stamina is ok however compared to ball and wd is second rate which is why wd and b are stamina performance tips.
no they arnt, wb has mediocre stamina, and b has good but not top tier, they are both defence tips, and i already said that to him.
im testing now, i only have a LF stadium but dan said to me that its fine to use for stamina testing