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MF-H Gravity Perseus BD145CS.

Jun. 27, 2011  3:15 AM
 
(Jun. 27, 2011  1:00 AM)Dan Wrote: Very cool, I hope to get my hands on a Hasbro CS soon.

You won't be disappointed, it's such a nice attack bottom. I actually prefer Hasbro's CS to RF in low track Lightning combos, as it has the same (if not more) momentum, as well as slightly better stamina (for more spin equalization).
Jun. 27, 2011  3:19 AM
 
Evan, you've been preaching about how aggressive Hasbro's CS is for a while now, but has anyone else been able to corroborate this claim yet?
Jun. 27, 2011  3:25 AM
 
(Jun. 27, 2011  3:19 AM)Kei Wrote: Evan, you've been preaching about how aggressive Hasbro's CS is for a while now, but has anyone else been able to corroborate this claim yet?

Not enough people have been testing it. I purchased another Ray Striker D125CS for a friend and he's been raving about it as well. When I get Basalt I will do some Lightning 85CS tests to show it has similar momentum and attack as RF.

Let me reiterate Hasbro CS's aggressiveness. It is insanely fast new, but as it wears it starts to show more of the S point. The rubber seems harder than TT's, so it doesn't wear as quickly. It seems instead of going dull like TTs and just becoming a defensive bottom, it becomes more like Driger S's metal change tip (albeit with rubber instead of metal) meaning with the right shot it can become aggressive or defensive. I suspect as I add more wear onto it; it will become just like a TT.
Jun. 27, 2011  5:28 AM
 
(Jun. 27, 2011  3:19 AM)Kei Wrote: Evan, you've been preaching about how aggressive Hasbro's CS is for a while now, but has anyone else been able to corroborate this claim yet?
Hell do I agree with him.

I was one of the 1st to get it, at least 100 hard battles done with it, and it's still Attacking well. The thing is, when you shoot straight at points, it can take a rally sharp turn and really smash up whatever it's at. Was playing around with it on Lightning and it excels on Heavier Oriented tracks, which would really help Beat Lynx's GB145 position. I would still think that it could achieve more than 60%, but that's just me.

EDIT: Evan, please check my testings in HASBRO Stadiums. This thing has no problem taking down Earth, and I'm yet to try Basalt. Again, dn't own a BB-10. But I do have access to it, testing will be done.
Jun. 27, 2011  5:31 AM
 
Hasbro's CS is incredibly offensive when new. I've done tons and tons and tons of battles with it, and it's starting to act like a TT CS now. I'm gonna try this combo when I get my Perseus/Destroyer. I just hope that's soon...
Jun. 27, 2011  2:49 PM
 
(Jun. 27, 2011  5:28 AM)BeyBladestation Wrote: EDIT: Evan, please check my testings in HASBRO Stadiums. This thing has no problem taking down Earth, and I'm yet to try Basalt. Again, dn't own a BB-10. But I do have access to it, testing will be done.

Thanks, but I can't really use Hasbro testing as an indicator of TT's metagame with Hasbro's CS. A lot of F combos have no problem taking down Earth on WB, the real test for it is how it stacks against Basalt and Earth/Libra on RS/CS/RSF.
Jun. 27, 2011  4:17 PM
 
I've got CS, will get RS soon. I will try:

MF GP BD145CS VS. MF Basalt GB145CS to add some more testing.
Jun. 27, 2011  4:23 PM
 
I don't really see the practicality of it, but I guess it would help knowing how well it does with equalizing defense types.
What stadium?
Jun. 27, 2011  4:36 PM
 
BB-107 ATK Stadium, the black one - BBP DX Set.
Jul. 04, 2011  8:04 PM
 
Can someone test this against Hell Kerbecs BD145WD with it in Right spin? I suspect it might be far more effective than left spin Tongue_out
Jul. 05, 2011  12:10 PM
 
(Jul. 04, 2011  8:04 PM)th!nk Wrote: Can someone test this against Hell Kerbecs BD145WD with it in Right spin? I suspect it might be far more effective than left spin Tongue_out

I will be able to test this soon when my Ray Unicorno comes in the mail.. Uncertain
Jul. 05, 2011  12:13 PM
 
Cool, I might try myself by then, but yeah.

Just saying, used this with attack perseus in counter mode at my tourney, it lost to (MF?) Basalt ___ GB145R2F, 3-1 or something. Got OS'd narrowly a couple of times, and KO'd when I decided to see if I could prevent that by using right spin. Uncertain Stamina Perseus might have been a better choice, or defence mode, but yeah, I didn't use it for the rest of the tourney.
So yeah, in that configuration, I did not like it one bit.
Jul. 05, 2011  12:33 PM
 
(Jul. 05, 2011  12:13 PM)th!nk Wrote: Cool, I might try myself by then, but yeah.

Just saying, used this with attack perseus in counter mode at my tourney, it lost to (MF?) Basalt ___ GB145R2F, 3-1 or something. Got OS'd narrowly a couple of times, and KO'd when I decided to see if I could prevent that by using right spin. Uncertain Stamina Perseus might have been a better choice, or defence mode, but yeah, I didn't use it for the rest of the tourney.
So yeah, in that configuration, I did not like it one bit.

Personally I find Gravity to work much better for attack in right spin but my theory is that left spin would be better for defence. (My unicorno should be here either tomorrow or the day after so I can test it soon)
Jul. 05, 2011  12:42 PM
 
Yeah, it depends what you're up against. Left spin has less recoil from right spin attackers (look at the way they collide), but if you're against LLD BD145LRF, the BD145's clash, and left spin prevents spin steal Tongue_out

That said, like I mentioned, in left spin it suffers from spin steal by some right spinners, which can cause bad losses.
Aug. 13, 2011  3:19 AM
 
Sorry for the Necro, But since Mold 3 is heavier than Mold 1, and Stamina CW has more Weight, wouldn't it be a much better choice? And some Someone Test MF-L or MF Gravity(Mold 3) Perseus (STAMINA vers., Defense Mode) BD145CS(Calm) VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs TH170(All three Heights)CS, MF Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS/MB and MF Hell Kerbecs BD145CS. Both Spins to see which has a better win rate. At least 10-20 rounds.
Aug. 16, 2011  11:59 PM
 
Since this combo was suggested as a potential top tier, I thought some testing was required....

MF-H Gravity Perseus (Defense Mode, Right Spin) BD145CS vs MF LLD 90RF
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MF-H Gravity Perseus (Defense Mode, Right Spin) BD145CS vs MF LLD 100RF
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MF-H Gravity Perseus (Defense Mode, Right Spin) BD145CS vs MF LLD CH120RF
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MF-H Gravity Perseus (Defense Mode, Right Spin) BD145CS vs MF LLD CH145RF
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Aug. 17, 2011  12:13 AM
 
Why is Gravity in right-spin? It would do much better in left IIRC.
Been a while.
Aug. 17, 2011  12:21 AM
 
(Aug. 17, 2011  12:13 AM)Dan Wrote: Why is Gravity in right-spin? It would do much better in left IIRC.
Been a while.

That's is what I thought too as it would prevent LLD from getting all those OS's from spin equalization... anyways, just throwing these tests out there... i might do left spin tests later on...
Aug. 18, 2011  4:30 PM
 
(Jul. 04, 2011  8:04 PM)th!nk Wrote: Can someone test this against Hell Kerbecs BD145WD with it in Right spin? I suspect it might be far more effective than left spin Tongue_out

Your wish is my command!
You really should've requested a MF on the kerbecs though, almost all wins were won from KO.

MF-H Gravity Perseus BD145CS (Right spin, defence) vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD (Boost mode)
MF-H Gravity Perseus BD145CS: 17/20 85% all Knock Out.
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD: 3/20 15% 2 Knock Out, 1 Out-spin.

2 draws.
Aug. 18, 2011  4:46 PM
 
Thanks for the tests, Pocky.
Aug. 21, 2011  12:42 PM
 
got some tests done
MF-H Gravity Perseus(Right spin) BD145CS VS MF Lightning L drago BD145RF:
MF-H GP BD145CS:2 (1 OS,1 KO )
MF LLD BD145RF:18 (6 OS,1 KO)

MF-H Gravity Perseus(left spin) BD145CS VS MF Lightning L drago BD145RF(bank):
GP:10
LLD:10

MF-H Gravity Perseus(left spin) BD145CS VS MF Hell Kerbecs BD145WD
GP:13
HK:7


Aug. 21, 2011  12:52 PM
 
(Aug. 21, 2011  12:42 PM)H8R Wrote: got some tests done
MF-H Gravity Perseus(Right spin) BD145CS VS MF Lightning L drago BD145RF:
MF-H GP BD145CS:2 (1 OS,1 KO )
MF LLD BD145RF:18 (6 OS,1 KO)

MF-H Gravity Perseus(left spin) BD145CS VS MF Lightning L drago BD145RF(bank):
GP:10
LLD:10

MF-H Gravity Perseus(left spin) BD145CS VS MF Hell Kerbecs BD145WD
GP:13
HK:7

Awesome testing! Thank you for your contributions.

Aug. 21, 2011  1:00 PM
 
(Aug. 21, 2011  12:52 PM)Bluezee Wrote:
(Aug. 21, 2011  12:42 PM)H8R Wrote: got some tests done
MF-H Gravity Perseus(Right spin) BD145CS VS MF Lightning L drago BD145RF:
MF-H GP BD145CS:2 (1 OS,1 KO )
MF LLD BD145RF:18 (6 OS,1 KO)

MF-H Gravity Perseus(left spin) BD145CS VS MF Lightning L drago BD145RF(bank):
GP:10
LLD:10

MF-H Gravity Perseus(left spin) BD145CS VS MF Hell Kerbecs BD145WD
GP:13
HK:7

Awesome testing! Thank you for your contributions.
No problem!
I've been practicing with MF LLD BD145RF lately to master it.
and I have a harder time KO ing GP BD145CS then I do KO'ing Mf-h Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS...
Gravity did have prblems in stamina though..LLD just destroyed it.
Aug. 21, 2011  2:14 PM
 
(Aug. 21, 2011  1:00 PM)H8R Wrote:
(Aug. 21, 2011  12:52 PM)Bluezee Wrote:
(Aug. 21, 2011  12:42 PM)H8R Wrote: got some tests done
MF-H Gravity Perseus(Right spin) BD145CS VS MF Lightning L drago BD145RF:
MF-H GP BD145CS:2 (1 OS,1 KO )
MF LLD BD145RF:18 (6 OS,1 KO)

MF-H Gravity Perseus(left spin) BD145CS VS MF Lightning L drago BD145RF(bank):
GP:10
LLD:10

MF-H Gravity Perseus(left spin) BD145CS VS MF Hell Kerbecs BD145WD
GP:13
HK:7

Awesome testing! Thank you for your contributions.
No problem!
I've been practicing with MF LLD BD145RF lately to master it.
and I have a harder time KO ing GP BD145CS then I do KO'ing Mf-h Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS...
Gravity did have prblems in stamina though..LLD just destroyed it.

And there also proves my point. You clearly have mastered to a great extent if you can KO Basalt BD145CS. It's not easy for A LOT of people. Awesome job! And don't worry about it not KOing GP BD145CS. I had and sometimes still have trouble with that too. I think its because GP isnt heavy enough to be destabilized and have its own weight forced against it like Basalt does.
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