[LTD] Death (Metal Fury) Discussion

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It's ok for defense, and not very good against anything else... Could you do balance tests? I would like to see them just to be sure. Honestly Death is pretty outclassed.
Damn man! You beat me to it. I'll post results in an hour or so.
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Test a death combo vs Meteo 100wd please Smile (wanna see if its any good for anti spin steal.)
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Maybe try out Death Cygnus/Cancer F230GCF? I have no idea if its in the good mode or not but maybe it'd do well. I don't have one to test.
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Nice. Do you have another F230? Since people have so much trouble against Gravity F230GCF, maybe that Death F230GCF combo could be a direct counter to it.
I have a red one. I could swap them after 10 rounds, if that's OK? Or would you prefer someone else testing against two oranges?
I think swapping would be okay as long as you show in depth results with who won what round and what F230.
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I can back you up on that, getting fairly good results here too:

Death Cygnus F230GCF (Orange F230) vs Earth Cancer W145WD
Death: 13/20 (10 OS'S, 3 KO'S)
Earth: 7/20 (5 OS'S, 2 KO'S)
Death win %: 65%

It would be quite helpful if someone else could help in this as well...
Hint... I'm th!nking. Wink

EDIT: Also, I've tried looking into a CS related defense combo for death. So... I've got everything set, just testing...
Hmmm, I really did not expect Death to do as well as it has, even though the results are not that great.
(Jan. 13, 2014  7:31 PM)Trickst3r Wrote:
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I can back you up on that, getting fairly good results here too:

Death Cygnus F230GCF (Orange F230) vs Earth Cancer W145WD
Death: 13/20 (10 OS'S, 3 KO'S)
Earth: 7/20 (5 OS'S, 2 KO'S)
Death win %: 65%

It would be quite helpful if someone else could help in this as well...
Hint... I'm th!nking. Wink

EDIT: Also, I've tried looking into a CS related defense combo for death. So... I've got everything set, just testing...

I'm afraid I don't have a metal fury Death, or even an F230 just yet.


The results in general are better than I expected (I expected Death to be awful at everything), though it could be something similar to how some 230CS things generally do okay against 145-height stamina, depending what their underside is like or whatever (Libra and Burn 230CS work pretty well, Earth 230CS notsomuch).
Wow Hasbro Death was pretty crappy for everything except on F230 CF/GCF (Not to much of a surprise). I'm not sure it doing decent on F230 would make me want to buy one though because everything else is pretty junky. Could you try a Low Track Death Defense combo? I'm not sure if it would scrape or not since I don't have a Hasbro Death, but if it doesn't scrape it would be nice to try if you have the time. Thanks!
(Jan. 14, 2014  10:00 PM)Thunder Dome Wrote: Wow Hasbro Death was pretty crappy for everything except on F230 CF/GCF (Not to much of a surprise). I'm not sure it doing decent on F230 would make me want to buy one though because everything else is pretty junky. Could you try a Low Track Death Defense combo? I'm not sure if it would scrape or not since I don't have a Hasbro Death, but if it doesn't scrape it would be nice to try if you have the time. Thanks!

Considering the fact it's in Attack Mode and Death has always had an overhang I'm not sure what you really expect. Still, considering it's in Attack mode it's done pretty surprisingly not-awful.
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Can someone try out MF-H Death 90/85RF? I proposed this custom a while back for regular format with the Takara Tomy Death but it was greatly restricted by BD145. Perhaps it could do better in the limited format if the lack weight doesn't hinder it too much. Unfortunately I don't have MF Death but it something I want to get soon XD
(Jan. 18, 2014  4:43 AM)Meow! Wrote: Can someone try out MF-H Death 90/85RF? I proposed this custom a while back for regular format with the Takara Tomy Death but it was greatly restricted by BD145. Perhaps it could do better in the limited format if the lack weight doesn't hinder it too much. Unfortunately I don't have MF Death but it something I want to get soon XD

This would be really neat to see, as much as LTAC are kinda limited it is the closest Death's attack mode came to being useful in standard so it's definitely something worth testing. I'm guessing something like MF-H Death Escolpio 90RF (based on Meow!'s combo in standard, speaking of which, Meow!, any thoughts on Pisces maybe? Doesn't do much but it does stay out of the way also it looks pretty neat on Death haha) vs various heights of defense is the main thing.

Oh and of course, if anyone can get a good weight for this thing that'd be really good, seeing as it's one of two Metal Fury wheels we don't know the weights of (and the other one is firefuse which we know is light.)

EDIT: Played around with the original, and yeah, definitely going to come down to weight, will also be interesting to see the reaction between Bakushin and Death's particular shapes without death having a massive weight advantage.
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Yep... getting pretty much the same kind of results here:

MF-H Death Elscopio 90RF vs MF-H Earth Cancer GB145RSF
Death: 8/20 1 OS'S, 7 KO'S)
Earth: 12/20 (12 OS'S, 0 KO'S)
Death win %: 40%