MF-H Kreis Bull BD145 CS VS MF-H Variares R145 RF

Tested on Takara Tomy BB-10 Attack Stadium
20 battles per test

Equipment:

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Beylauncher LR
3 seg grip
Grip support
Grip rubber
Angle compass
LED sight

No additional weight was added in the launcher.

Slide shooting and Weak shooting was used.

RF&CS status

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TEST 1
Kreis:Defence mode
VariAres:Right spin

MF-H Kreis Bull BD145 CS
13 wins (7 KO 6 OS)
Win rate:65%
MF-H Variares R145 RF
7 wins (7 KO)
Win rate: 35%
2 Ties

TEST 2
Kreis:Attack mode
Variares:Right spin

MF-H Kreis Bull BD145 CS
8 wins (6 KO 2 OS)
Win rate:40%
MF-H Variares R145 RF
12 wins (12 KO)
Win rate:60%
1 Tie


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Nice tests, can you make the same tests with vari ares leftspin and ch120. And if you can please against stamina blades.

The results are a little bit dissaponting, I hoped it had a little bit better defense.

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Do the same tests only with VariAres in left spin, if you don't mind.

Can you try a test that Kreig wheel is a stamina type? or maybe attack? or it doesn't have the potentials?

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Do Kreis AD145WD vs Phantom AD145WD please

Good gravy, people! Stop bombarding them with requests!

Anyhow, its good to see Kreis do something against the powerhouse, lol.

BD145 mostly contributed to it's performance as vari ares was slide shot, thus it mainly came into contact with BD145. I assume it's second loss was due to KO as vari ares is very easy to outspin. I conclude that it does not have much defense potential at all actually, especially when compared to long time powerhouses such as Duo and Death.

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Also, Kreis does not have attack properties at all. It's six KO's in the second test were all due to Vari ares bad control and recoil.

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Hmmm... Interesting. I had this feeling right from the start that Kreis isnt quite the wheel that will replace Duo from its throne. But still, I was expecting 70%+ against VariAres (actually, it should be a good thing for me as I have just recieved my Vari :p ). For me, part of the blame can be put on the not-completely-free-spinning metal frame, had it been fully free spinning, like we were expecting it, then Kreis could have been a better wheel.
I still do have strong hopes from this against VariAres left spin, and looking forward to stamina testing.
And for anyone, who is willing to do Kreis stamina tests, dont forget Kreis ___EDS and Kreis B: D :p

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Phantom Pegasus II UW145RDF

I am seriously sorry to say this but as you see in my signiture I dont do battles so often because i keep my beys for display.Think of this test as an "demonstration" and please wait for more informed bladers for better explanation.I do hope the results will help you for now.

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@Leviath I know, thats why I am still considering these tests as a hint to what Kreis can actually do.
That is why, Im trying to say that slowly I am losing interest in the wheel (no offence intended to anyone who likes the design ) and whether its anywhere near Duo or Death, although more tests by more people might bring out a clearer picture.
I have mentioned the tests I havent seen yet, and REALLY looking forward to.

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Phantom Pegasus II UW145RDF

At least decent according to current tests...
As there have not been many tests, nothing can be said. But it seems to do good.
I have some requests, but I'll make them later, as it seems like you are a busy man!

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From the design of Kreis i was thinking it would make a good stamina wheel.

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kreis might be beautiful but its not deadly.

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BD145 mostly contributed to it's performance as vari ares was slide shot, thus it mainly came into contact with BD145. I assume it's second loss was due to KO as vari ares is very easy to outspin. I conclude that it does not have much defense potential at all actually, especially when compared to long time powerhouses such as Duo and Death.

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Also, Kreis does not have attack properties at all. It's six KO's in the second test were all due to Vari ares bad control and recoil.

Your conclusion was made too early, based on an amateur observation, and really isn't relevant at all. You cannot just outright say a wheel is bad at something when only two tests have been posted.

Leviath, if you are unwilling to perform more tests, you should not be the owner of this thread, and I will close it and wait until someone actually willing to contribute to the best of their ability is available.

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Well, could you at least do some benchmark tests with MF-H VariAres R145RF/R2F vs. MF-H Duo Aquario 230CS so we can judge as to whether the results were skewed due to lack of skill with attack types or some other factor?

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BD145 mostly contributed to it's performance as vari ares was slide shot, thus it mainly came into contact with BD145. I assume it's second loss was due to KO as vari ares is very easy to outspin. I conclude that it does not have much defense potential at all actually, especially when compared to long time powerhouses such as Duo and Death.

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Also, Kreis does not have attack properties at all. It's six KO's in the second test were all due to Vari ares bad control and recoil.

Your conclusion was made too early, based on an amateur observation, and really isn't relevant at all. You cannot just outright say a wheel is bad at something when only two tests have been posted.

Leviath, if you are unwilling to perform more tests, you should not be the owner of this thread, and I will close it and wait until someone actually willing to contribute to the best of their ability is available.

Yes please do so
(I would like the next owner of this thread to put my tests into a spoiler though)

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Very well. When a new thread opens, PM your results to that owner, Leviath.

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