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Kreis Discussion - Brood - Jan. 21, 2012
MF-H Kreis Bull BD145 CS VS MF-H Variares R145 RF
Tested on Takara Tomy BB-10 Attack Stadium
20 battles per test
Equipment:
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Beylauncher LR
3 seg grip
Grip support
Grip rubber
Angle compass
LED sight
No additional weight was added in the launcher.
Slide shooting and Weak shooting was used.
RF&CS status
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TEST 1
Kreis:Defence mode
VariAres:Right spin
MF-H Kreis Bull BD145 CS
13 wins (7 KO 6 OS)
Win rate:65%
MF-H Variares R145 RF
7 wins (7 KO)
Win rate: 35%
2 Ties
TEST 2
Kreis:Attack mode
Variares:Right spin
MF-H Kreis Bull BD145 CS
8 wins (6 KO 2 OS)
Win rate:40%
MF-H Variares R145 RF
12 wins (12 KO)
Win rate:60%
1 Tie
I will add additional information if asked
RE: Kreis Discussion - Glowfire1 - Jan. 21, 2012
Nice tests, can you make the same tests with vari ares leftspin and ch120. And if you can please against stamina blades.
The results are a little bit dissaponting, I hoped it had a little bit better defense.
RE: Kreis Discussion - ElevatorMadness - Jan. 21, 2012
Do the same tests only with VariAres in left spin, if you don't mind.
RE: Kreis Discussion - Sniper Kid - Jan. 21, 2012
Can you try a test that Kreig wheel is a stamina type? or maybe attack? or it doesn't have the potentials?
RE: Kreis Discussion - BladerNerd - Jan. 21, 2012
Do Kreis AD145WD vs Phantom AD145WD please
RE: Kreis Discussion - Jaygrazer - Jan. 21, 2012
Good gravy, people! Stop bombarding them with requests!
Anyhow, its good to see Kreis do something against the powerhouse, lol.
RE: Kreis Discussion - Spdshadow - Jan. 21, 2012
BD145 mostly contributed to it's performance as vari ares was slide shot, thus it mainly came into contact with BD145. I assume it's second loss was due to KO as vari ares is very easy to outspin. I conclude that it does not have much defense potential at all actually, especially when compared to long time powerhouses such as Duo and Death.
Also, Kreis does not have attack properties at all. It's six KO's in the second test were all due to Vari ares bad control and recoil.
RE: Kreis Discussion - Orion97 - Jan. 21, 2012
Hmmm... Interesting. I had this feeling right from the start that Kreis isnt quite the wheel that will replace Duo from its throne. But still, I was expecting 70%+ against VariAres (actually, it should be a good thing for me as I have just recieved my Vari :p ). For me, part of the blame can be put on the not-completely-free-spinning metal frame, had it been fully free spinning, like we were expecting it, then Kreis could have been a better wheel.
I still do have strong hopes from this against VariAres left spin, and looking forward to stamina testing.
And for anyone, who is willing to do Kreis stamina tests, dont forget Kreis ___EDS and Kreis B: D :p
RE: Kreis Discussion - Brood - Jan. 21, 2012
I am seriously sorry to say this but as you see in my signiture I dont do battles so often because i keep my beys for display.Think of this test as an "demonstration" and please wait for more informed bladers for better explanation.I do hope the results will help you for now.
RE: Kreis Discussion - Orion97 - Jan. 21, 2012
@Leviath I know, thats why I am still considering these tests as a hint to what Kreis can actually do.
That is why, Im trying to say that slowly I am losing interest in the wheel (no offence intended to anyone who likes the design
) and whether its anywhere near Duo or Death, although more tests by more people might bring out a clearer picture. I have mentioned the tests I havent seen yet, and REALLY looking forward to.
RE: Kreis Discussion - Janstarblast - Jan. 21, 2012
At least decent according to current tests...
As there have not been many tests, nothing can be said. But it seems to do good.
I have some requests, but I'll make them later, as it seems like you are a busy man!
RE: Kreis Discussion - Dark_Mousy - Jan. 21, 2012
From the design of Kreis i was thinking it would make a good stamina wheel.
RE: Kreis Discussion - dragoonevo - Jan. 21, 2012
kreis might be beautiful but its not deadly.
RE: Kreis Discussion - Hazel - Jan. 21, 2012
(Jan. 21, 2012 1:51 PM)Z.E.R.O Wrote: BD145 mostly contributed to it's performance as vari ares was slide shot, thus it mainly came into contact with BD145. I assume it's second loss was due to KO as vari ares is very easy to outspin. I conclude that it does not have much defense potential at all actually, especially when compared to long time powerhouses such as Duo and Death.
Also, Kreis does not have attack properties at all. It's six KO's in the second test were all due to Vari ares bad control and recoil.
Your conclusion was made too early, based on an amateur observation, and really isn't relevant at all. You cannot just outright say a wheel is bad at something when only two tests have been posted.
Leviath, if you are unwilling to perform more tests, you should not be the owner of this thread, and I will close it and wait until someone actually willing to contribute to the best of their ability is available.
RE: Kreis Discussion - Ga' - Jan. 22, 2012
Well, could you at least do some benchmark tests with MF-H VariAres R145RF/R2F vs. MF-H Duo Aquario 230CS so we can judge as to whether the results were skewed due to lack of skill with attack types or some other factor?
RE: Kreis Discussion - Brood - Jan. 22, 2012
(Jan. 21, 2012 6:37 PM)Hazel Wrote:(Jan. 21, 2012 1:51 PM)Z.E.R.O Wrote: BD145 mostly contributed to it's performance as vari ares was slide shot, thus it mainly came into contact with BD145. I assume it's second loss was due to KO as vari ares is very easy to outspin. I conclude that it does not have much defense potential at all actually, especially when compared to long time powerhouses such as Duo and Death.
Also, Kreis does not have attack properties at all. It's six KO's in the second test were all due to Vari ares bad control and recoil.
Your conclusion was made too early, based on an amateur observation, and really isn't relevant at all. You cannot just outright say a wheel is bad at something when only two tests have been posted.
Leviath, if you are unwilling to perform more tests, you should not be the owner of this thread, and I will close it and wait until someone actually willing to contribute to the best of their ability is available.
Yes please do so
(I would like the next owner of this thread to put my tests into a spoiler though)
RE: Kreis Discussion - Hazel - Jan. 22, 2012
Very well. When a new thread opens, PM your results to that owner, Leviath.