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Hasbro Metagame Stadium & Combo Testing 2! Updates!!

Dec. 11, 2011  2:34 AM
 
O my gosh I just realizedive been using Capricorn, not phoenix!
I got the testing results against stamina!
Equipment:
Launcher grip
String launcher
All tests were done in pegasus thunder whip stadium
Spoiler (Click to View)
EDIT:oh i only posted 18 rounds sorry i missed that i was really tired when i posted. i fixed it

the fool didnt know it couldnt be done, so he went and did it anyway

Dec. 11, 2011  2:38 AM
 
I was wondering the EXACT same thing. Would the Bolt Blast Stadium be acceptable for testing (Even though I read the OP, and it said NOTHING about the BB Stadium. Oh, and the Dragon's Den Stadium looks like a re-colored Lightning Force Stadium, FYI)?
Dec. 11, 2011  3:56 AM
 
Can someone test Basalt Kerbecs 230RS in the Max Stampede Stadium?
Dec. 11, 2011  4:20 AM
 
@mrtripleAAA
well i would, but my MXS broke like i said T_T
Spoiler (Click to View)

the fool didn't know it couldn't be done, so he went and did it anyway
Dec. 11, 2011  6:07 AM
 
(Dec. 11, 2011  2:34 AM)gokerbecs247 Wrote: O my gosh I just realizedive been using Capricorn, not phoenix!
I got the testing results against stamina!
Equipment:
Launcher grip
String launcher
All tests were done in pegasus thunder whip stadium
Spoiler (Click to View)

the fool didnt know it couldnt be done, so he went and did it anyway

Tell me, why did you only do 18 rounds? Unless I have my math wrong lol
Dec. 11, 2011  6:57 AM
 
No u did ur math right. like i said in my edit i was SUUUUUUUPER tired when i posted. sorry about that Rai. and also to all others
the fool didnt know it couldnt be done, so he went and did it anyways
Dec. 15, 2011  2:46 AM
 
Equipment (Click to View)

Info (Click to View)

Thermal Pegasis T125CS vs. Rock Aquario D125SF (Click to View)
Better combo for me to test against?
Dec. 16, 2011  10:12 PM
 
UPDATE: I have seriously overhalled with the OP to make navigation easier. Spoilers and extra spacing have been added in to remove the previous clutter and confusion. Also, I have updated the Stadiums section with regards to MXS as well as a list of illegal stadiums. PM me if i am missing any stadiums. If the stadium is not listed as illegal, legal, or is in not in the requests section, assume illegal.

Dec. 16, 2011  10:32 PM
 
I still say every stadium legal, so everyone can join in.
They may not do that with BB-10's, but that's for a whole community, this is for not the community. LOL
Besides, it would provide a lot more info for Hasbro users.
Dec. 16, 2011  11:14 PM
 
I wouldn't say every stadium. MXS with the craters should be illegal no matter what, since it cannot be a comparable metric to... well... anything.

Same for SVS.
Dec. 16, 2011  11:17 PM
 
True, true.
It was just a suggestion, but ehh, I can see what you mean.
How about things WITHOUT gimmicks? Would that work?
Dec. 17, 2011  12:56 AM
 
I was allowed to create this thread under the premise that this thread would be used for decent hasbro stadiums. Besides, testing gimmicks accomplishes nothing. And testing PTW results in migrains
Dec. 17, 2011  3:37 AM
 
I got a twisted tempo! anything need to be tested, I'll do it! Grin
Dec. 17, 2011  4:10 AM
 
Test whatever you want. There is no need to say you got a certain bey, as it doesnt help progress the thread. Just make sure you follow the rules and use common sense, and as long as you arent testing something that is already known, you should be fine. Just rememebr to enjoy yourself too. =)
Dec. 18, 2011  8:21 PM
 
Added to the OP:

Notice: There has been some talk on the latelly that PTW may be better than the stadiums we currently use here, and that out of all of the Hasbro stadiums, PTW is the best choice. PTW has a terrible slope, so why is this even being said? No offense to those who believe this, but this is completely false. The stamina center in LF and MXS, or as some of you falsly call it, "dead zone", does have its setbacks, but it does have its advantages as well. There are no Hasbro stadiums that are the most "BB10-like" because if thier were then we would only be using that one stadium. The dimensions of the Hasbro stadiums would not allow for such a shape, and Hasbro cannot reproduce those dimensions probobly due to legal reasosn we are unaware of. Otherwise, what would be stopping Hasbro from releasing a BB-10 with a net attached to it?

This thread was created to test Hasbro stadiums which provide the best environment for beyblade testing, (attack<defense<stamina<attack) and PTW has none of those properties. LF and MXS are the only 2 currently tested stadiums that come remotly close to that original concept. To compensate for game unbalancing current top tier attack types had in Hasbro stadiums, the Hasbro thread was created with the idea in mind that a few new tiers could be created to adapt to the Hasbro stadiums, thus creating a seperate Hasbro metagame, for habdro beyblades, for hasbro stadiums, and for Hasbro players.

This thread was also made to allow more people to contribute and participate in the community, however there is a limit to how far one can go with that. The complaint was that people couldnt afford or werent alllowed to get good stadiums from overseas, and people were stuck with Hasbro stadiums. Well now that we have this thread, you would think that everyone would be happy. Some people argue that all of the stadiums should be allowed to be tested. Well just like the TT metagame, only certain stadiums are allowed to be used because thier are ones that are betetr tha others. If you do not own those stadiums, it is not impossible to get another. I am sorry to put it so harshly, but it is your problem if you do not own the correct stadium for testing, not ours. We have done everything we can at this point to allow for more people to activly participate in the community.

Thank you for understanding. Keep up the good work everyone. The new Hasbro thread has been a great sucess so far. To every past, current, and future contributor, you have my sincere thanks.

-LT13
Dec. 18, 2011  8:25 PM
 
That is the most retarded thing I have heard in this thread.
A PTW.
Being the best.
No.
Dec. 18, 2011  8:50 PM
 
The point of my message want just about PTW, (although it was a huge part of it) it was about "making every stadium legal." The main metagame doesnt do that, so why should we? It is absolutley pointless. As I said we can only go so far. We cannot have one hundred different tier lists for each different stadium type.
Dec. 18, 2011  8:55 PM
 
Yeah, we can.
But whatever.. Have it as PTW is the best. I won't be agreeing with that statement anytime soon though.
Dec. 18, 2011  9:17 PM
 
Idealisticly, yes we could, if everyone got thier beyspitrits fired up and we worked really super hard for long extended periods of time creating tons of seperate tier lists! GO TEAM!

Realisticly, no one, or atleast not enough people required for the task, has the time, enough patience, or the motovation to do so. Therefore, the answer is no.

If you can gladly find 100 people who disagree and will remain commited to such a thing all the way through 110%, I would gladly retract that statement, and applaud such an amazing feat. I am just being realistic, not mean.
Dec. 20, 2011  5:29 AM
 
(Dec. 18, 2011  8:21 PM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: Added to the OP:

.............. To compensate for game unbalancing current top tier attack types had in Hasbro stadiums, the Hasbro thread was created with the idea in mind that a few new tiers could be created to adapt to the Hasbro stadiums, thus creating a seperate Hasbro metagame, for habdro beyblades, for hasbro stadiums, and for Hasbro players.

............
Thank you for understanding. Keep up the good work everyone. The new Hasbro thread has been a great sucess so far. To every past, current, and future contributor, you have my sincere thanks.

-LT13

If this is for hasbro, its metagame, the beyblades that go good with it, the players, and the STADIUMS, shouldn't we test all the stadiums? Not EVERYONE who has a hasbro stadium has a MXS or LF.
Dec. 20, 2011  5:31 AM
 
That's exactly the point I was trying to get at.
It's one thing with BB-10's, but this is for (I hate to put it this way but ehh.) a bunch of kids who DON'T have access to a BB-10, and most likely never will.
Dec. 20, 2011  4:49 PM
 
Kids can still use whatever stadium they want for battles. Keep in mind that the purpose of testing is to use the best stadiums to see the true potential in a combo. MLD 85XF will still kick carp in a LF as well as a PTW, the only real difference being that in PTW you will experience severe nerfing. The tier list for PTW would hypotheticly be the same for our current hasbro stadiums, but testing in PTW itself wouldnt give accurate results.

To give an example, put Twisted Tempo 230WD in a PTW, and see if it is even remotly possible to beat it with an attack type. The answer is obvious
Dec. 20, 2011  5:34 PM
 
(Dec. 20, 2011  4:49 PM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: Kids can still use whatever stadium they want for battles. Keep in mind that the purpose of testing is to use the best stadiums to see the true potential in a combo. MLD 85XF will still kick carp in a LF as well as a PTW, the only real difference being that in PTW you will experience severe nerfing. The tier list for PTW would hypotheticly be the same for our current hasbro stadiums, but testing in PTW itself wouldnt give accurate results.

To give an example, put Twisted Tempo 230WD in a PTW, and see if it is even remotly possible to beat it with an attack type. The answer is obvious

Is it any better in a different hasbro stadium?
Dec. 20, 2011  7:32 PM
 
Fair point. Put it this way, an attack type in LF or MXS would atleast be able to cause Twisted combo some trouble. In a PTW you will be lucky if an attack even hits its opponent or even budges it
Dec. 21, 2011  3:52 AM
 
(Dec. 07, 2011  12:47 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: The tier list has more or less fallen through...i have no time anymore and the people who initialy volunteered to help me have more or less backed off. unless i can find new people who wish to help me create the tier list we will have to make due without one for a while, which is a shame considering how awesome it would be.

Oh, sorry. I kinda fell off. My bad. I do have a somewhat outdated tier-list draft already done from June. What's missing is Basalt, but I know where that goes. Do you want it?
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