I realised about the font size, I was making my own point, I have a hf/s and next week I will have acces to a hf
Hasbro Metagame Stadium & Combo Testing 2! Updates!!
So...um...ignore the fact that only 10 battles were done each time...you will see why...
LF stadium
String launcher
Sliding + banking shoot
Earth Aquario GB145WD vs Gravity Destroyer T125SF (right spin)
EA: 9 wins, all OS
GP: 1 wins, KO
...Gravity Destroyer CH120SF (120 height)
EA: 5 wins, all KO
GD: 5 wins, all KO
11 TIES!?!?
...Midnight Bull T125SF, and then Midnight Aquario 125F...all results the exact same...
EA: 10 wins, all OS (both times)
MB/MA: 0 wins
.........Storm Aquario 100RF (near mint)....
EA: 8 wins, 7 OS, 1 KO
SA: 2 wins, 1 OS, 1 KO
For the record, I re-did aything i thought was a crappy launch...again...and again...and agian...the agony...
I have never gotton such bad results before...ever...not even for hasbro attack...i switched string launchers half way through too...
Is Earth Bull/Aquario GB145WD really that unbeatable? I even did a few battles with this....
....Rock Aquario D125SF
EA: 9 wins, 7 OS, 2 KO
RA: 1 win, OS
This defies all logic...please no one take any of these results to heart..I am mertley posting them so I do not just claim this carp happened...
Worst. Bey-test. Ever.
LF stadium
String launcher
Sliding + banking shoot
Earth Aquario GB145WD vs Gravity Destroyer T125SF (right spin)
EA: 9 wins, all OS
GP: 1 wins, KO
...Gravity Destroyer CH120SF (120 height)
EA: 5 wins, all KO
GD: 5 wins, all KO
11 TIES!?!?
...Midnight Bull T125SF, and then Midnight Aquario 125F...all results the exact same...
EA: 10 wins, all OS (both times)
MB/MA: 0 wins
.........Storm Aquario 100RF (near mint)....
EA: 8 wins, 7 OS, 1 KO
SA: 2 wins, 1 OS, 1 KO
For the record, I re-did aything i thought was a crappy launch...again...and again...and agian...the agony...
I have never gotton such bad results before...ever...not even for hasbro attack...i switched string launchers half way through too...
Is Earth Bull/Aquario GB145WD really that unbeatable? I even did a few battles with this....
....Rock Aquario D125SF
EA: 9 wins, 7 OS, 2 KO
RA: 1 win, OS
This defies all logic...please no one take any of these results to heart..I am mertley posting them so I do not just claim this carp happened...
Worst. Bey-test. Ever.
hey guys can i have some attack customs for my gravity perseus, i have most of the basic first wave parts and some second wave like cs for ray unicorno...i just dont have anything that high end like an 85, 90, or xf.
darn it, i just had a slow moment and forgot the build me a combo thread...disregard that guys.
darn it, i just had a slow moment and forgot the build me a combo thread...disregard that guys.
I hope my tests dint kill the great momentum we had going...
If you all would like, someone could maybe attempt to replicate 1 or 2 of my tests but in greater detail and with ajusted combos, because if what I posted is accurate (which I do not think it is) then saving attack types is not worth the effort...and I dont think any of us want that
If you all would like, someone could maybe attempt to replicate 1 or 2 of my tests but in greater detail and with ajusted combos, because if what I posted is accurate (which I do not think it is) then saving attack types is not worth the effort...and I dont think any of us want that
How to end all Hasbro Meta:
Wait for Scythe Kronos.
Earth BD145EDS.
Attack is doomed... Unless hopefully (wait, the frick) hasbro craps up eds.
Wait for Scythe Kronos.
Earth BD145EDS.
Attack is doomed... Unless hopefully (wait, the frick) hasbro craps up eds.
don't quote me on this, but IIRC, BD145 and hasbro stadiums don't go well together kbuno50
plus, EDS is a stamina tip... so i don't think it will change much defensively
anyways, i have been "out of the loop" for a while. so just wondering how Killer eagle T125FS stands up right now (yeah... lame question)
plus, EDS is a stamina tip... so i don't think it will change much defensively
anyways, i have been "out of the loop" for a while. so just wondering how Killer eagle T125FS stands up right now (yeah... lame question)
Killer gets killed by everything 0_o always, everywhere, anywhere, any time, all the time
FS isnt morbid in Hasbro meta, from what I have seen atleast. Its just OK
kbuno50: We dont know how Hasbro's Metal Fury Metal Wheels will perform. Do not jump to conclusions
And this is just my opinion, if you arent using BD145 with Hell Kerebecks, you arent using BD145 good enough, haha. That goes for all meta
FS isnt morbid in Hasbro meta, from what I have seen atleast. Its just OK
kbuno50: We dont know how Hasbro's Metal Fury Metal Wheels will perform. Do not jump to conclusions
And this is just my opinion, if you arent using BD145 with Hell Kerebecks, you arent using BD145 good enough, haha. That goes for all meta
(Mar. 23, 2012 1:29 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: Killer gets killed by everything 0_o always, everywhere, anywhere, any time, all the time
FS isnt morbid in Hasbro meta, from what I have seen atleast. Its just OK
wow, things sure have changed then.
i guess my "stamina eater" *puts on sunglasses* got filled up (... that was horrible)
David Caruso moment?
I have not tested Killer in a while, especialy for stamina. As long as you dont make me test another attack type for a while (ugh....see my post on last page...) I could test that this weekend
Edited my last post to include a bit about BD145
I have not tested Killer in a while, especialy for stamina. As long as you dont make me test another attack type for a while (ugh....see my post on last page...) I could test that this weekend
Edited my last post to include a bit about BD145
leon
I never judged the 4d attack wheels.
Vari and Blitz have too much recoil for F/HF, and flash is right near the beginning of zero-g.
I never judged the 4d attack wheels.
Vari and Blitz have too much recoil for F/HF, and flash is right near the beginning of zero-g.
We dont need more stamina though...attack is what we need
And I have no idea what that last statement of yours stems from, but F/HF is not the name, it is HF/S. And I am not sure what you mean by that, could you explain? That whole last bit is a bit random and hard to follow
And I have no idea what that last statement of yours stems from, but F/HF is not the name, it is HF/S. And I am not sure what you mean by that, could you explain? That whole last bit is a bit random and hard to follow
So I'm gonna jump back into this. What attack types need testing and what do they need to be tested against? I have a Max stampede no craters, and a Lions Lair.
leon I think Kbuno means F and HF.
Omega: MXSNC is better. LL is basicly a PTW for xts...test anything related to attack. The more, the better. And since this is Hasbro, feel free to try whatever you like
Definatly use MXSNC over LL though
Definatly use MXSNC over LL though
(Mar. 23, 2012 1:41 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: David Caruso moment?
I have not tested Killer in a while, especialy for stamina. As long as you dont make me test another attack type for a while (ugh....see my post on last page...) I could test that this weekend
yeah
i will test it as well. its been a while since i have tested, so i kinda want to now
Attack seems to fail in hasbro tho. I think Hasbro needs a stadium that attack has a chance in.
Super Vortex Stadium
Hasbro String Launcher
Tips switched at the beginning of the eleventh round.
Basalt Kerbecs AD145WD v. Earth Bull AD145WD
BK: 10/20 (50%)
EB: 10/20 (50%)
I'll try to add ten more rounds the next chance I get as the wins came solely down to whichever was launched in first. Also, why has Hell/Hades been completely overlooked?! I did a little unofficial testing a while ago with Hell Kerbecs 90SF in the SVS against the same Earth custom, and Hell seemed to perform quite decently. I can try to get more testing up in the next week.
Hasbro String Launcher
Tips switched at the beginning of the eleventh round.
Basalt Kerbecs AD145WD v. Earth Bull AD145WD
BK: 10/20 (50%)
EB: 10/20 (50%)
I'll try to add ten more rounds the next chance I get as the wins came solely down to whichever was launched in first. Also, why has Hell/Hades been completely overlooked?! I did a little unofficial testing a while ago with Hell Kerbecs 90SF in the SVS against the same Earth custom, and Hell seemed to perform quite decently. I can try to get more testing up in the next week.
kbuno50: Test whichever one you want. GD is just terrible, and I think BF has the PTW slope (not sure though)
Test in whichever stadium you feel will give the best results. IMO, that would be BF.
PunkBlader: We all want that, but it will likely never happen. The whole purpose of this thread is to find a way to re-ajust the meta game so that attack types can accomplish something in Hasbro meta
@ ლ(ಠ益ಠლ).)
Thanks for the tests (and your ammusing user name which I must copy and paste as opposed to typing haha)
Where you doing stamina testing there? Because if not there was really no point
Hades Kerebecks has not been overlooked, if you are refering to it not being on the tier list. However I guess it has been "overlooked" in terms of testing it.
Test in whichever stadium you feel will give the best results. IMO, that would be BF.
PunkBlader: We all want that, but it will likely never happen. The whole purpose of this thread is to find a way to re-ajust the meta game so that attack types can accomplish something in Hasbro meta
@ ლ(ಠ益ಠლ).)
Thanks for the tests (and your ammusing user name which I must copy and paste as opposed to typing haha)
Where you doing stamina testing there? Because if not there was really no point
Hades Kerebecks has not been overlooked, if you are refering to it not being on the tier list. However I guess it has been "overlooked" in terms of testing it.
Yep, that was stamina testing there, sorry about the confusion. xD
It is no problem XD. Again, thanks for these tests. I kind of regret not picking up Hades Kerebecks yesterday, but I probably would not test it (Metal Wheel paint and all)
But now, I have MLD Absorb DF105LRF to test...funfunfunfunfun XD
But now, I have MLD Absorb DF105LRF to test...funfunfunfunfun XD
Cool, try testing a spin stealing combo, so does no one else have gases kerbecks, has anyone tested burn for attack, what about hades for attack
Sorry everyone, this may be all I have time to test for this weekend, but you will all be happy with what you see
MLD LW105LRF (whichever mode covers the painted part of the metal wheel) vs Gravity Destroyer AD145WD (Right spin, Counter Mode)
All tips are in mint condition
Sliding and Banking Shoot used
MLD launched 2nd
GD used with String launcher
MLD used with standard Ripcord Launcher
MLD: 16 WINS (3 OS, 13 KO)
GD: 4 Wins (3 OS, 1 KO)
MLD does in fact literaly push its opponents into the pockets. In a Hasbro stadium, this is VERY effective, as you can see. MLD ussualy KO'd GD very quickly. When it failed to KO (probably because of the way i launched it) it went to spin steal GD, which only suceded because of the rubber on MLD. Even in Counter Mode, GD obviously has spin equalization properties in opposite spin battles. Alot of it came down to who could absorb the most hits, and in the OS battles that occured, the winner and loser were literaly 1 second apart each time, sometimes less. Which is probobly why in terms of just those 6 battles only, it was 50/50. As for my use with different launchers, I decided to use this instead of a weak launching technique.
I can sleep well tonight, knowing that we are all not doomed
MLD LW105LRF (whichever mode covers the painted part of the metal wheel) vs Gravity Destroyer AD145WD (Right spin, Counter Mode)
All tips are in mint condition
Sliding and Banking Shoot used
MLD launched 2nd
GD used with String launcher
MLD used with standard Ripcord Launcher
MLD: 16 WINS (3 OS, 13 KO)
GD: 4 Wins (3 OS, 1 KO)
MLD does in fact literaly push its opponents into the pockets. In a Hasbro stadium, this is VERY effective, as you can see. MLD ussualy KO'd GD very quickly. When it failed to KO (probably because of the way i launched it) it went to spin steal GD, which only suceded because of the rubber on MLD. Even in Counter Mode, GD obviously has spin equalization properties in opposite spin battles. Alot of it came down to who could absorb the most hits, and in the OS battles that occured, the winner and loser were literaly 1 second apart each time, sometimes less. Which is probobly why in terms of just those 6 battles only, it was 50/50. As for my use with different launchers, I decided to use this instead of a weak launching technique.
I can sleep well tonight, knowing that we are all not doomed
Let me point out that Meteo is painted everywhere but most of it is a silver paint. (And if I'm not mistake you are talking about Assault Mode.)
On my Meteo, most of it is silver paint, although because this color is so similar to the nornal metal, I consider it unpainted. Howver there are 3 smaller jaws that are colored metallic blue. The mode where the CW is covering those smaller jaws is the mode I am in.
And as usual, I am starting to confuse the GD modes again...which mode exposes the "eyes of Medusa" again?
And as usual, I am starting to confuse the GD modes again...which mode exposes the "eyes of Medusa" again?