Hasbro Metagame Stadium & Combo Testing 2! Updates!!

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Tornado Ridge is definitely smaller than LD's. That will definitely affect performance.
(Dec. 07, 2011  3:50 AM)DemonRageX Wrote: No, the bowl of LL is BB-10-ish but maybe wider? I don't know exactly. It also has taller tornado ridge.

One can not possibly liken this to BB-10 if these results are coming up. Can you post pics of your LL stadium? I would like to see this TR myself, being that this stadium isnt supposed to have one.

Edit: just saw your vid, it looks like hasbro added back in the TR before its release...wtf?

Perhaps we should make a LL thread? What other stadiums do you own?

Keep in mind, PTW doesnt have a stamina center either, and its a $hitty piece o'carp

What is LD?
And you think the TR is deeper in LL than it is in LF? How about the slope itself? Can you tell which is steeper?

Hah sorry Leon, I meant LF (Lightning Force)
I don't think we should really make another thread though. Just keep discussing here I guess.
Sounds good.

PTW has no stamina center and a crappy slope
LF has a stamina center and a decent slope
MXS(1) has a stamina center and a slightly better LF slope
LL has no stamina center and a what slope???
LL actually looks to be amazing. It actually looks like it's better for Stamina beys, since it isn't flat. The slope looks good too!
(Dec. 07, 2011  5:07 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: And you think the TR is deeper in LL than it is in LF? How about the slope itself? Can you tell which is steeper?

The best way I can say about LL is that the slope is a flat BB-10, the reason I say that is because all the stamina/defense beys all go towards the center like a BB-10 stadium does and grind the carp out of each other like BB-10, but it's a bit flatter. I noticed when I launched Hyper Aquario 105F it moves slower than when launched in LF stadium. Here's some battles to help you grasp it.
Mind the poor quality of 2nd video.
^ Best one IMO. Song has cussing (if you are offended =P)

Thanks for the compliment, Leon.
Lightning Force stadium's slope is steeper than LL stadium.
LL has no stamina center and a BB-10 infused PTW slope. Not Steep Not Too Flat but Subtle for the win.
Best thing. It has sliding shoot potential.Gasp
The LL's TR is taller than LF's TR by a lot or deeper in your case, Leon. Ex: So if I normal shoot Galaxy Pegasus onto the middle, it will go to the TR, spin around really fast like it would in BB-10, and probably slingshot it self into the wall or exhaust it's spin and spin around the slope towards the center eventually.
A steeper TR than the current stadiums and a lower slope. Hasbro re-used the PTW dimensions...For XTS blades that wasnt a bad idea at all, but for regular blades this is a thumbs down.

Were all of those vids yours? (minus vid 2 of course) nice quick vids man, i am impressed, although LLDrago's launch i felt was weaker than it should have been, but that could be just me...

You have been a huge help to this thread. ths is the 1st major step foward in some time, thank you man =D

To sum this up, "What the f*ck?" (music plays)
OP Updated. Some minor rule updates, and Lion's Liar has been removed from the requests list and is now illegal for testing, due to it using the same dimensions as PTW. Many thanks to DemonRageX for the test results.
(Dec. 07, 2011  5:36 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: A steeper TR than the current stadiums and a lower slope. Hasbro re-used the PTW dimensions...For XTS blades that wasnt a bad idea at all, but for regular blades this is a thumbs down.

Were all of those vids yours? (minus vid 2 of course) nice quick vids man, i am impressed, although LLDrago's launch i felt was weaker than it should have been, but that could be just me...

You have been a huge help to this thread. ths is the 1st major step foward in some time, thank you man =D

To sum this up, "What the f*ck?" (music plays)
OP Updated. Some minor rule updates, and Lion's Liar has been removed from the requests list and is now illegal for testing, due to it using the same dimensions as PTW. Many thanks to DemonRageX for the test results.
No, it's some other persons. I just picked it out to help you grasp the concept of the slope of LL.
Going to turn in my final test results:
Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) CH120RF vs. Earth Bull GB145WB
Lion's Lair Stadium
String Launcher and Left Ripcord Launcher
Earth first and sliding shoot Lightning last.
Lightning L Drago CH120RF: 2 wins (2 KOs)
Earth Bull GB145WB: 18 wins (18 OS)
2 draw
I don't think it should be illegal quite yet. Can someone compare both stadiums on hand? I can't watch the videos, my internet is being a carp, so if that's what was on them, my apologies.
(Dec. 07, 2011  5:02 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote:
(Dec. 07, 2011  3:50 AM)DemonRageX Wrote: No, the bowl of LL is BB-10-ish but maybe wider? I don't know exactly. It also has taller tornado ridge.

One can not possibly liken this to BB-10 if these results are coming up. Can you post pics of your LL stadium? I would like to see this TR myself, being that this stadium isnt supposed to have one.

Edit: just saw your vid, it looks like hasbro added back in the TR before its release...wtf?

Perhaps we should make a LL thread? What other stadiums do you own?

Keep in mind, PTW doesnt have a stamina center either, and its a $hitty piece o'carp

What is LD?

LOL, the rumour about LL has no TR was such old news. It was because of the bad quality pic, but some people could still see the TR.

Thanks for clarifying that. I need to spend more time on the hobby thread.

Dragon's Den appears as if it is just LF, but I cannot be certain from watching that video.

(Dec. 07, 2011  6:44 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: I don't think it should be illegal quite yet. Can someone compare both stadiums on hand? I can't watch the videos, my internet is being a carp, so if that's what was on them, my apologies.

If your able to watch them, all 3 are about LL. The 2nd is a crappy review done by a kid, and 1 and 3 are battles with some decent uncustomized beys. Its scary how PTWish it is, but atleast Hasbro recognizes that PTW is only good for thier gimmick stuff. And currently, I am under the impression that DD is a season 2 LF.
Suprisingly the kid who did the DD review doesnt irritate me to badly, there is definatly worse out there. Its to bad he doesnt have a nack for close call battles haha
DD looks like LF but with steeper TR. My assumption.
Hopefuly someone can test it soon. I assume that like how LL is a PTW with slight modifications, DD will be the same way but for LF. Considering that DD is also an XTS stadium, my hopes have dwindeled a bit...

Thankfulky it seems we have a new stadium to worry about too

Request for Destroyer Stadium testing added to the OP
DD looks to be promising, let's hope for the best.
I found a *sort of* good anti-meta, like MD Basalt Horogium R145RF. It's a downgrade, but I like it. It's Basalt Horogium D125/145LF, and I'll probably have it up tomorrow with some testing if I can.
did some testing with a combo I made.
MF LLD CH120 RF versus Gravity Perseus BD145 RS (Upper mode on LLD, defense mode left spin for gravity)
Gravity launched first, normal launch, LLD launched banked.
MXS NC
MF LLD CH120 RF: 1 KO, 1 OS
Gravity Perseus BD145 RS: 18 OS
Notes: on one of the outspins by gravity, LLD was able to barrage gravity four times (recoil sends LLD back, RF makes it hit gravity, repeats four times.) on the KO by LLD, it was a really lucky KO. The OS by LLD was only possible because The recoil made BD145 scrape just enough for it to lose most of its spin. I chose RS personally because It has the needed hieght to mostly prevent scraping, and my only good CS isn't defensive like RS is. I might have also gotten these results since my CH120 is ever so slightly unstable, but that actually makes VERY little difference, except on 145 hieght, then it wobbles like M145. Uncertain
Hey guys, I've go a combo. It's hell pheonix BD145F
Let me know what you think.


PS can someone tell me how to do spoilers, then I'll post some results

Someone awnser me!
And tell me how to do spoilers!
F on that combo is meh. Why Phoenix? Kerbecs has much better synergy. Plus, BD145 + F = Speechless
Okay I got the test results. I don't have 230 so I can't make much top teir stuff,
So These are the best combos I can make for each type
If your doubtful of the results test it yourselves

Equipment:
Grip launcher
String launcher
All tests were done in max stampede stadium



For defense types
I'll post some more results when I get home later for stamina and attack


the fool didn't know it couldn't be done, so he went and did it any way
(Dec. 07, 2011  5:07 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: And you think the TR is deeper in LL than it is in LF? How about the slope itself? Can you tell which is steeper?


also i think we should measur the diameter of the death zones in alll hasbro stadium that way we can use a stadiun for testing that have the samllest death zone and the biggest slopes or a equal compramise between the two
@gokerbecs
Standard testing format is 20 rounds, and your Max Stam. is the one without craters, correct?
Also, post results like this:

Hell Phoenix BD145F
KO: 0
OS: 7
Win %: 70%

Basalt Bull C145WD
KO: 0
OS: 3
Win %: 30%

Just trying to help you out. Wink
Ok, thanks for the advice. I'll do somemore testing right now and then post some results
And yes, it is the one without pits
Dang! My stadium's 2 years old and it just got
A hole in the bottom. I have another staidium but its
Bolt blast.Unhappy should I use this or a wok with some barriers?

the fool didnt know it couldnt be done, so he went and did it anyway