[Hasbro]  Balkesh B3 Testing and Discussion

(Jan. 02, 2019  12:14 AM)Kei Wrote: I did a couple sets of tests:

Test Conditions
- 5-10 rounds each with no ties redone. Just to give an impression of the way these match-ups would likely play out.
- Alternating launches for stamina match-ups, B3 launched first vs bL and nL
- BeyLauncher LR + Launcher Grip for nL/bL, BeyLaunchers for all other Beyblades
- Medium strength launch for Balkesh B3 against nL/bL
- Weak launch in Balkesh B3 vs aH and 超S matches

Test Results
Archer Hercules 0 Cross Xtend Plus vs. Balkesh B3 0 Wall Bearing
aH.0C.Xt+: 0 Wins
B3.0W.Br: 8 Wins (8 OS)
2 Draws
B3 Win Percentage: 100%

Archer Hercules 0 Turn Bearing vs. Balkesh B3 0 Turn Bearing
aH.0T.Br: 2 Wins (2 OS)
B3.0T.Br: 6 Wins (6 OS)
2 Draws
B3 Win Percentage: 75%

I swapped the 0T half way through this first set. To make sure the TT aH or Bearing weren't putting it at a disadvantage for some reason I did five more rounds with a different aH and TT Bearing:

Archer Hercules 0 Turn Bearing vs. Balkesh B3 0 Turn Bearing
aH.0T.Br: 0 Wins
B3.0T.Br: 3 Wins (3 OS)
2 Draws
B3 Win Percentage: 100%

Cho-Z Spriggan 0 Turn Bearing (Right-Spin) vs. Balkesh B3 0 Turn Bearing
超S.0T.Br: 0 Wins
B3.0T.Br: 5 Wins (5 OS)
B3 Win Percentage: 100%

Nightmare Longinus Reach Xtreme Dash vs. Balkesh B3 0 Turn Bearing
nL.R.X’: 5 Wins (2 OS, 3 KO)
B3.0T.Br: 5 Wns (5 OS)
B3 Win Percentage: 50%

Bloody Longinus 5 Reach Xtreme Dash vs Balkesh B3 0 Turn Bearing
bL.5R.X’: 3 Wins (3 KO)
B3.0T.Br: 7 Wins (7 OS)
B3 Win Percentage: 70%

Key Takeaways
  • Balkesh B3 on Br never bursted. It also never really moved much on its slope, if at all.
  • Despite the weight difference, Hasbro Bearing combos (at least using B3) don't seem to have trouble competing in opposite spin match-ups with TT Bearing-based opponents.
  • B3.0T.Br wasn't that easy to KO. It requires a pretty perfect launch in order to do it; otherwise, it just deflects everything after the first few seconds. The softer plastic used for B3 (and Hasbro Beyblades in general) probably helps a bit with this. The feeling you get when your Attack type hits this thing is completely different than the TT counterpart or things like hS.

Some tests I just posted here, but they're relevant for this thread as well.
Have yet to lose to Any other Beyblade using Balkesh. It is an insanely good setup. Son and father in law tried every other one we had. Thing is unstoppable.
I guess it's countered by C3? Just my opinion. And Requiem S3 can win in opposite, same is an issue.
Is Balkesh B3 still worth buying at this point & time?
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:00 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote: Is Balkesh B3 still worth buying at this point & time?

Absolutely!
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:00 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote: Is Balkesh B3 still worth buying at this point & time?

Yeah, it can pretty much destroy everything opposite spin on a good LAD disk/frame setup and hasbro bearing.
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:20 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote:
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:00 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote: Is Balkesh B3 still worth buying at this point & time?

Yeah, it can pretty much destroy everything opposite spin on a good LAD disk/frame setup and hasbro bearing.

K4.0b.br can beat b3.0b.br.
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:28 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote:
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:20 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: Yeah, it can pretty much destroy everything opposite spin on a good LAD disk/frame setup and hasbro bearing.

K4.0b.br can beat b3.0b.br.
Really? Oh, I meant something like B3 00W Br. I used it in the latest tournament and it was able to pretty consistently beat pP 00C Xt+ and pP Outer Xt+.
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:37 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote:
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:28 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: K4.0b.br can beat b3.0b.br.
Really? Oh, I meant something like B3 00W Br. I used it in the latest tournament and it was able to pretty consistently beat pP 00C Xt+ and pP Outer Xt+.

Thanks. Things change so quick sometimes beys I read about become “outclassed” before I can get them. I think i’ll pick this one up. Pretty easy to find and cheap right now.
(Jun. 01, 2019  3:07 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote:
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:37 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: Really? Oh, I meant something like B3 00W Br. I used it in the latest tournament and it was able to pretty consistently beat pP 00C Xt+ and pP Outer Xt+.

Thanks. Things change so quick sometimes beys I read about become “outclassed” before I can get them. I think i’ll pick this one up. Pretty easy to find and cheap right now.
Yeah it happens. Something to note is that theoretically, B3 will always be good in some way. It can basically either win or tie in opposite spin on the right set up and it doesn't burst at all. If they somehow release a bey that can burst balkesh, everything else would become unviable. Plus since it doesn't burst, nothing can outclass it in pure burst defense, even if they created a bey that also doesn't burst, it would only tie with B3, not beat it.
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:37 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote:
(Jun. 01, 2019  2:28 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: K4.0b.br can beat b3.0b.br.
Really? Oh, I meant something like B3 00W Br. I used it in the latest tournament and it was able to pretty consistently beat pP 00C Xt+ and pP Outer Xt+.

Then, can't K4.00W/Rt.Br beat it? But it will probably get destroyed by anything right spin......